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As I’m sure you read in my column from earlier this week examining 2016’s leaders in different categories in 3-2 counts, Robbie Grossman took a much different approach than most players when the count was full.
Among players who saw both 1500 total pitches, and had at least 50 plate appearances that ended in a 3-2 count, Grossman led the league in both walk rate (48.8 percent; league average: 30.4 percent) and called strikeout rate (13.3 percent; league average: 4.7 percent). When Grossman had the opportunity to take a pitch in a full count, he almost always did so.
Perhaps this chart will put Grossman’s passivity in simpler terms:
You should be able to hover over each point in that scatter plot and see where every player that met our 1500 pitch/50 3-2 PA threshold lands, but if not, you can still easily find Grossman. There he is in the top right corner, the Babe Ruth of this very specific category.
But perhaps a chart isn’t your thing. Maybe you’re more of a list person. If that’s true, then let’s create a simple metric that will quantify Grossman’s full count approach and see how it stacks up relative to the rest of the league.
We'll call it take rate. It’s simply (3-2 walks + 3-2 called strikes), all divided by total 3-2 pitches. For example, in 105 full count pitches, Grossman walked 41 times and went down looking another 14 times. So 55 times he watched the pitch go by without taking the bat off his shoulder. Divide 55 by 105, and you get a take rate of 52.4 percent. Easy enough, right?
Here’s a list of the top ten in take rate from 2016, as well as the league average (min: 1500 total pitches seen):
Take% Top Ten
Name | Team | 3-2 Pitches | BB | 3-2 CS | Take | Take% |
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Name | Team | 3-2 Pitches | BB | 3-2 CS | Take | Take% |
Robbie Grossman | MIN | 105 | 41 | 14 | 55 | 52.38% |
Jose Bautista | TOR | 148 | 51 | 13 | 64 | 43.24% |
Kirk Nieuwenhuis | MIL | 85 | 32 | 3 | 35 | 41.18% |
Kris Bryant | CHC | 137 | 43 | 11 | 54 | 39.42% |
Adam Duvall | CIN | 89 | 24 | 11 | 35 | 39.33% |
Jason Castro | HOU | 84 | 25 | 8 | 33 | 39.29% |
Joc Pederson | LAD | 107 | 33 | 9 | 42 | 39.25% |
Brandon Belt | SFG | 203 | 65 | 13 | 78 | 38.42% |
Chris Davis | BAL | 159 | 42 | 18 | 60 | 37.74% |
Avisail Garcia | CHW | 71 | 21 | 5 | 26 | 36.62% |
League Average | MLB | 113 | 25 | 5 | 30 | 26.55% |
So if that scatter plot didn’t do it for you, that list should. Grossman blew away the rest of the league, and he basically doubled the league-average Take% on 3-2.
Number one, I hope you find that as fascinating as I do. It kind of blew me away when I first realized it. But once I got over that, my next thought was to see whether this was a one-year fluke, or if whether Grossman’s 3-2 approach in 2016 is generally how he’s approached full counts his entire career.
In order to answer that question I had to do some digging on Baseball Savant. Here’s what I found:
Grossman career 3-2 approach
Year | Total Pitches | 3-2 Pitches | 3-2% | 3-2 BB | 3-2 BB% | 3-2 CS | 3-2 CS% | Take | Take% |
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Year | Total Pitches | 3-2 Pitches | 3-2% | 3-2 BB | 3-2 BB% | 3-2 CS | 3-2 CS% | Take | Take% |
2016 | 1635 | 105 | 6.42% | 41 | 39.0% | 14 | 13.33% | 55 | 52.4% |
2015 | 216 | 13 | 6.02% | 3 | 23.1% | 1 | 7.69% | 4 | 30.8% |
2014 | 1776 | 134 | 7.55% | 41 | 30.6% | 11 | 8.21% | 52 | 38.8% |
2013 | 1071 | 56 | 5.23% | 15 | 26.8% | 7 | 12.50% | 22 | 39.3% |
Career | 4698 | 308 | 6.56% | 100 | 32.5% | 33 | 10.71% | 133 | 43.2% |
You can see that while 2016 was certainly the highest Take% of Grossman’s short career by a wide margin, he’s generally taken a passive 3-2 approach since his debut in 2013. That career mark of 43.2% would have ranked basically tied for second last year, and the 39-ish percent Grossman put up in his other two full seasons (2013 and 2014) would have put him squarely in the top ten.
So it does appear that, yes, the passivity Grossman displayed on 3-2 in 2016 does say something about his full count approach in general. Should he get a similar number of at-bats in 2017 — and he plays for the Twins, so he probably will — we can probably expect to see him finish high in this category again.
Just to satisfy our curiosity, though, exactly how much of an outlier is Grossman on 3-2 when we look at not just 2016, but from 2013 to today? Can anyone touch his ability to leave the bat on their shoulder?
To A) get a reliable sample size, and B) narrow this list to likely competitors for Grossman’s crown, I looked only at players who, since 2013, had at least 200 plate appearances that ended in a full count, and had at least a 35 percent walk rate and 15 percent strikeout rate in those situations. That gave me a list of 30 players, including Grossman, who met that criteria.
So again, let’s start with a scatter plot:
And here is an expanded version of that data in organizable list form:
Top 30 Take% since 2013 (Min: 200 PA)
Season | Name | Team | PA | BB | BB% | Pitches | 3-2 Pitches | 3-2% | 3-2 CS | 3-2 CS% | Take | Take% |
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Season | Name | Team | PA | BB | BB% | Pitches | 3-2 Pitches | 3-2% | 3-2 CS | 3-2 CS% | Take | Take% |
2013-16 | Robbie Grossman | 2 Tms | 242 | 100 | 41.3% | 4698 | 308 | 6.6% | 33 | 10.7% | 133 | 43.2% |
2013-16 | Joc Pederson | LAD | 213 | 80 | 37.6% | 4622 | 274 | 5.9% | 27 | 9.9% | 107 | 39.1% |
2013-16 | Shin-Soo Choo | 2 Tms | 386 | 146 | 37.8% | 8620 | 509 | 5.9% | 48 | 9.4% | 194 | 38.1% |
2013-16 | Lucas Duda | NYM | 276 | 98 | 35.5% | 7018 | 373 | 5.3% | 35 | 9.4% | 133 | 35.7% |
2013-16 | Chris Davis | BAL | 436 | 155 | 35.6% | 10409 | 584 | 5.6% | 54 | 9.2% | 209 | 35.8% |
2013-16 | Brad Miller | 2 Tms | 223 | 90 | 40.4% | 6721 | 290 | 4.3% | 26 | 9.0% | 116 | 40.0% |
2013-16 | George Springer | HOU | 275 | 97 | 35.3% | 6114 | 361 | 5.9% | 30 | 8.3% | 127 | 35.2% |
2013-16 | Brandon Belt | SFG | 395 | 141 | 35.7% | 8242 | 571 | 6.9% | 41 | 7.2% | 182 | 31.9% |
2013-16 | Dexter Fowler | 3 Tms | 442 | 166 | 37.6% | 9291 | 616 | 6.6% | 43 | 7.0% | 209 | 33.9% |
2013-16 | Alex Avila | 2 Tms | 283 | 109 | 38.5% | 5339 | 387 | 7.2% | 26 | 6.7% | 135 | 34.9% |
2013-16 | Kris Bryant | CHC | 233 | 92 | 39.5% | 5362 | 303 | 5.7% | 20 | 6.6% | 112 | 37.0% |
2013-16 | Coco Crisp | 2 Tms | 279 | 102 | 36.6% | 6934 | 386 | 5.6% | 24 | 6.2% | 126 | 32.6% |
2013-16 | Jarrod Saltalamacchia | 4 Tms | 251 | 91 | 36.3% | 5787 | 325 | 5.6% | 19 | 5.8% | 110 | 33.8% |
2013-16 | Jose Bautista | TOR | 458 | 191 | 41.7% | 9911 | 636 | 6.4% | 34 | 5.3% | 225 | 35.4% |
2013-16 | A.J. Ellis | 2 Tms | 212 | 76 | 35.8% | 5118 | 281 | 5.5% | 15 | 5.3% | 91 | 32.4% |
2013-16 | Josh Donaldson | 2 Tms | 477 | 170 | 35.6% | 11180 | 625 | 5.6% | 33 | 5.3% | 203 | 32.5% |
2013-16 | Joey Votto | CIN | 544 | 224 | 41.2% | 10106 | 712 | 7.0% | 37 | 5.2% | 261 | 36.7% |
2013-16 | Gregor Blanco | SFG | 218 | 79 | 36.2% | 6168 | 295 | 4.8% | 15 | 5.1% | 94 | 31.9% |
2013-16 | Mark Teixeira | NYY | 239 | 90 | 37.7% | 5957 | 345 | 5.8% | 17 | 4.9% | 107 | 31.0% |
2013-16 | Adam LaRoche | 2 Tms | 267 | 97 | 36.3% | 6672 | 374 | 5.6% | 18 | 4.8% | 115 | 30.7% |
2013-16 | John Jaso | 3 Tms | 210 | 75 | 35.7% | 4941 | 292 | 5.9% | 14 | 4.8% | 89 | 30.5% |
2013-16 | Yasmani Grandal | 2 Tms | 247 | 89 | 36.0% | 6020 | 338 | 5.6% | 16 | 4.7% | 105 | 31.1% |
2013-16 | Carlos Santana | CLE | 523 | 184 | 35.2% | 11251 | 704 | 6.3% | 33 | 4.7% | 217 | 30.8% |
2013-16 | Miguel Cabrera | DET | 325 | 118 | 36.3% | 9451 | 449 | 4.8% | 20 | 4.5% | 138 | 30.7% |
2013-16 | Jackie Bradley Jr. | BOS | 206 | 73 | 35.4% | 5658 | 275 | 4.9% | 12 | 4.4% | 85 | 30.9% |
2013-16 | Matt Holliday | STL | 273 | 113 | 41.4% | 7312 | 371 | 5.1% | 16 | 4.3% | 129 | 34.8% |
2013-16 | Nick Swisher | 2 Tms | 206 | 81 | 39.3% | 5240 | 265 | 5.1% | 11 | 4.2% | 92 | 34.7% |
2013-16 | Bryce Harper | WSN | 349 | 138 | 39.5% | 8723 | 462 | 5.3% | 19 | 4.1% | 157 | 34.0% |
2013-16 | Chris Iannetta | 2 Tms | 290 | 128 | 44.1% | 5873 | 400 | 6.8% | 14 | 3.5% | 142 | 35.5% |
2013-16 | Freddie Freeman | ATL | 384 | 138 | 35.9% | 9874 | 542 | 5.5% | 16 | 3.0% | 154 | 28.4% |
Regardless of which of those two charts/lists you prefer, it’s clear that Grossman is still the king of taking a pitch on 3-2. He’s perhaps not ahead to the extent he was in 2016 alone, but really only Brad Miller is even in the same realm as Grossman over the course of the latter’s career.
As you might expect, just about every player on these lists has a patient approach in general. Grossman is no exception: For his career, he’s run a 12 percent walk rate, and he swings far less — both in and out of the zone — than the average player. Despite making contact at just an average rate, and not hitting the ball all that hard when he does, that ultra-cautious approach has made Grossman a serviceable big-league hitter overall.
Since we’re specifically focusing on Grossman’s full count approach, let’s take a look his career zone profile in those situations, singling out the pitches on which he did not make contact:
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Grossman has chased some pitches outside the zone, but his ability to read a pitch out of the pitcher’s hand is typically pretty sound. Even the majority of the called strikes are typically on the borderline. You seldom see him just let a hittable 3-2 pitch go by.
That approach has made him a well-above-average hitter in full counts. Even though he does take strike three a lot, his overall 3-2 strikeout rate (26 percent) is pretty average, and all of those walks he earns far outweighs his strikeouts anyway. That has led to a career 174 wRC+ in full counts, 32 points above the league average for non-pitchers since 2013.
As far as what this portends for Grossman’s career going forward, I’m not sure it says much of anything. You shouldn’t trade for him in your dynasty league because you now know that he doesn’t like to swing in full counts. This isn’t meant to be that sort of analysis.
Rather, it’s a reminder that even in the highly curated, one percent of one percent of the population that is major league baseball players, there are still little things that make these guys unique. It’s a fun fact stretched to 1100+ words.
Leading the league in take rate won’t earn Grossman a nine-figure contract, but he can at least say he’s the greatest in the world at this one thing, and that’s pretty cool, whether he knows about it or not. Next time you’re watching the Twins and Grossman takes a walk or a called strike three in a 3-2 count, you’ll be able to say you’ve seen that greatness in action.
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Joe Clarkin is a featured writer for Beyond the Box Score. You can follow him on Twitter at @Joe_Clarkin.