Will BBWAA Vote Matt Kemp NL MVP (like they should)?
Good post from reader backtocali here. What's your take?
The BBWAA voted for King Felix and Lincecum for Cy Young Awards in years where they didnt profile as the typical BBWAA award winner. In 2011 will the BBWAA do the right thing (as they did with the two votes mentioned here) this year, and vote for Matt Kemp as the National League MVP?
Granted, we are only 2/3rds of the way through the 2011 season, but the Dodger Center Fielder is having the most impressive season of any player in the NL, and it shouldn't really matter that he isn't playing on a contender, or that his team is 11 games below .500.
There's no telling how much the MVP voters might discount the fate of the Dodgers, when voting for Kemp as a viable "most valuable player." The last time serious consideration was given to a player from a non contending team (in the NL) was in 2005, when Derrek Lee had his run at the triple crown onoa sub par Cub squad. In the last 20 years the NL BBWAAvoters have given serious consideration to only 2 other players for the MVP award that came from losing teams: 2002 with Sammy Sosa and1995 with Dante Bichette. And we all know about the last time a winner came from a losing team (NL only again) was the 1987 award given to Andre Dawson who played for a Cub team that went 76-85.
Maybe if Matt Kemp were a Cub he would get some votes. This point, as sarcastic as it may seem, sheds more light on why Kemp is andshould get serious MVP consideration this year. Matt Kemp (if he stays on track) will compile his amazing offensive numbers while having played over 72% of his games in pitcher friendly parks. Kemp's closest competition for the award right now is probably Ryan Braun, who plays in a much more hitter friendly park, and has plenty of road games in the Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati, Wrigley Field andMinute Maid Park in Houston. In fact, Kemp's 5 closest competitors for the award (Braun, Joey Votto, Justin Uptonand Prince Fielder) play a much higher percentage of games than Kemp does in hitter friendly environments.
Even if you take out the hitter park vs pitcher park argument, Kemp's numbers are just better all aroundthan his competitors for the award. He leads the leage in RBI (on a really bad offensive Dodger squad), he is 2nd in HR and 4thin the league in hitting. So he is obviously doing well in all of the counting stats that the voters like to look at. But he is also doing extremely well with Sabermetricones as well: leading the league in Runs Created, 2nd in WAR (first in WARP and VORP with Baseball Prospectus) and he is 3rd in the league in Win Probability Added.
You could possibly question his "luck" or his defense. His .361 BABIP is in the top 10 in the league, but among players in the hunt for the MVP award, isntall that outside of the norm. And among top MVP candidates, only 4 of them have what Saber-heads like myself would consider good defense (Upton, Matt Holliday, Shane Victorino and Troy Tulowitzki). But the typical MVP voter for the BBWAA doesn't know what BABIP even is, and defense is at the very bottom of their priority list.
So will the voters penalize Kemp for an award he richly deserves simply because the Dodgers are owned by Frank McCourt, and Rafael Furcalwas hurt all year, and James Loneycontinued his slide into irrelevance, and the team couldnt find an MLB caliber catcher to receive the wonderful pitching staff they have on hand? And will they hand deliver the award to a player who plays a ton of games in hitter friendly parks, with numerous games against the 2 worst teams in the league, in the weakest division in the NL andis followed up in the lineup by another MVP candidate? Yes, they probably will, and with extreme prejudice.
As of right now, Matt Kemp is the National League MVP. It's a shame that he will never have the 2011 award on his mantle.
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I think I'd take Justin Upton
D’Backs are still in contention and the difference between him and Kemp has only been a few runs. I’ll have more on Upton tomorrow, too; wrote a post about him for BTB last night.
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Although Kemp certainly deserves to be in the running
by yellomellojello on Aug 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
And speaking of playing in a pitcher friendly park
Citi Field is far more pitcher friendly than Dodger Stadium.
Reyes has clearly been the best player in the NL this year, and even after missing two weeks on the DL, he has .3 more WAR than Kemp. How can you seriously talk about the NL MVP and not even mention Reyes? It’s laughable.
Reyes is definitely in the hunt
but I have him 6th right now behind the 5 mentioned above.
The only big counting stat he has going for him is batting average, and the only Saber stat is WAR. Yes I agree that he is worthy of consideration, and if not for his DL time might have a better shot.
Who knows, once the season’s end comes closer maybe he closes the gap on guys like Upton or Braun or Fielder, but I just felt that Kemp had the better MVP resume based on his power stats.
Stolen bases? Hits? Runs scored? Multiple hit games? And 16 triples. The next closest players have 12, 9 and 8.
And he also does play shortstop. And you are aware WAR is a stat that calculates a player’s full value, offensively, defensively, position, base running and playing time? So he’s been worth more than those guys even though he’s been on the field less. Kemp and Upton have been great, and if either win over Reyes, I’ll be annoyed, but it won’t be a travesty, but he has Braun beat by .8 WAR and Fielder (who has become extremely overrated and is the third best player on his own team) by 2 WAR. So you wanna say Kemp, or Upton, or McCutchen, fine, but he’s significantly better than Braun and light years ahead of Fielder.
Shane Victorino deserves consideration.
by philsandthrills on Aug 11, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But I hate him and everything he stands for. Also, the Phillies already stole two MVPs from more deserving Mets (Howard over Beltran, at least that was close, and the travesty that was Rollins over Wright), so screw him.
Who elbows a guy on the basepath? Seriously?
FYP
the travesty that was rollins over wright holliday
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
by papality on Aug 13, 2011 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting
2007 NL WAR:
Wright – 8.9
Pujols – 8.4
Utley – 7.9
Holliday – 7.7
Chipper – 7.5
Soriano – 7.0
Rollins – 6.9
People don’t realize how great David Wright was before 2009. David Wright has had his peak seasons in a potential Hall of Fame career. I’d say a 1.2 lead in WAR is significant enough to say Wright was definitively better that season. How Prince Fielder still finished ahead of him in the voting just shows how stupid the BBWAA really is.
i feel that holliday's contributions in the context of the rockies 2007 outweigh wrights additional WAR on a mets team that collapsed
BUT PRINZ FEELDER HIT 50 DINGERZ!
the only organization of humans responsible for more evil in the universe than the philadelphia phillies is the boston red sox
lets just use our 2012 money for something good and not another wigginton
Indeed.
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 15, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe I wrote this on August 1st
Shane Victorino probably makes up a ton of ground the next time I check in September 1.
I wrote something about him right around the ASB.
He’s basically gone crazy since late July, which has boosted him into minor consideration.
by philsandthrills on Aug 14, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Kemp has a sizeable lead in rWAR.
He’s at 7.1, while Braun is second with 5.5. By rWAR, he’s very clearly the MVP choice. Personally, though, I prefer fWAR. According to Fangraphs, Kemp fourth, behind Upton, Tulo, and Victorino. Reyes, McCutcheon, and Holliday are just a hair behind. However, the REAL NL WAR leader is Halladay, with 6.1. He would probably be my choice, maybe Upton, if I had a vote. The best pitcher in the game is a having the best season of his career, so I don’t understand why he still isn’t considered a serious MVP candidate.
New update
I’ve now got Joey Votto at the top of the “MVP” list, with Kemp right behind at number 2, and Braun 3. A big mover this month is Troy Tulowitzki who has gone from 10th on my “ballot” to 4th.
Same thing applies with Votto as it does with Kemp in the story above. Not very likely that either of them win the award, but imo, are clearly the best players in the NL this year so far.

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