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Is Ubaldo Jimenez the Rockies Worst Starting Pitcher?

Very few pitchers over the last couple of seasons have been as fun to watch as Ubaldo Jimenez. The right-hander has made two straight Opening Day starts and has since been tagged with "ace" status. As the Rockies success over the last two plus years has gone from "hottest team in baseball" all the way to "what is going on with this team?" it's been largely in part to the success and failure of Ubaldo.

The Rockies have gotten off to a fantastic start this year. With a 16-7 record to boast, almost each and every component on the Rockies squad has contributed in some way. Ubaldo Jimenez is one of the few men in Purple who hasn't generated the Rox at least 0.1 wins. To go along with that, he looks to be the same Ubaldo to whom we saw during the second half of the 2010 season -- That would be a pitcher who walks almost a whole hands worth of batters per start and can't get through 6 or 7 innings like he's been known to do. Alas, his FIP since June 26th (his first start in 2010 where he gave up more than 4 ER's) is 3.95. Since then, we've seen his walk total and HR/FB rates increase while his K rate decrease. He simply hasn't been the same pitcher to whom we saw breeze through each and every inning of the first two months or so of the 2010 season.

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On the other hand, his counter parts and fellow starting pitchers have improved dramatically. Jason Hammel, Jhoulys Chacin, Esmil Rogers, and Jorge De La Rosa are the four starters who have accompanied Ubaldo in the Rockies rotation over the last calendar year or so (with a few spot starts here and there from others). This is what the Rockies rotation is now and is expected to be barring any unexpected circumstances. Judging 2011 numbers based on four or five starts is irresponsible. Thus, the current Rockies five in 2010...

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Again, the point is that since late June Ubaldo has gone backwards and changed. This just shows that despite his amazing start the other Rockies pitchers were still better as a whole. This could be a sentiment for Ubaldo Jimenez regressing, but not regressing as much as Chacin, Hammel, De La Rosa, and Esmil Rogers are improving. As I said previously, Ubaldo's FIP of 3.95 since June 26th, 2010 certainly isn't bad but it's the worst out of the hive five (corny, I know). There's been no honest truth as to why Ubaldo has turned in to a walk machine. Some say it's mechanical and some say it's the real Ubaldo. Nevertheless, he didn't come back any better this year even though he did spent some time on the shelf opening the season. Here are the Rockies five in 2011...

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Ubaldo Jimenez has since regressed since his first few months of 2010. Hec, he's regressed a lot. He's failed to pitch deeper in to games and has simply walked his way out of his outings. Sure, mechanics could be the issue but you'd expect the Rockies management to be able to fix that when he pitched during the Spring. They didn't, and he's already been on the shelf in the early year. Thus, that's why it's irresponsible to judge him based on his '11 starts even though they are actual outings and Chacin, Hammel, Rogers, and De La Rosa haven't missed starts due to injuries.

Talk about mechanical problems, Ubaldo's velocity on his fastball and slider as well as the effectiveness of the respective pitches have all gone for not. To put that in to context, Ubaldo's average fastball velocity this year has been 92.3, almost four miles per hour slower than his 96.1 average last year. His slider has decreased 3.1 MPH now sitting at 83.5. Having boasted a fastball last year that was exactly 30 runs above average his fastball this year has been -2.2 runs above average -- Not good.

Who knows if Ubaldo is the Rockies worst starting pitcher. As I stated before, Chacin and Hammel are really improving which could make them better than Ubaldo regardless of how good or bad he pitches. Same goes for Esmil Rogers for that matter. However, he's been a disaster in plenty of ways since late June and hasn't turned it around. Having pitched a splendid game this past weekend against the Marlins following his injury, the Rockies hope it's something to build on. With that said, it's going to take a lot for Ubaldo to get back to Ubaldo. Until then, he's got some competition from his counterparts who are trying to dethrone him of the "ace" status.

 

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I suppose while I'm at it, the Rockies are 16-7, not 14-8

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 9:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

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by Satchel Price on Apr 27, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ye...yes...why?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It certainly looks that way now

I’m not sure it did then. I believe he was out of options and had a really terrible showing for most of 33 appearances. I actually wanted him gone after a few starts in colorado, to jr honest

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

To ATF's point:

When I read (think up, contemplate, and eventually reject) article titles like these, I usually ask whether it passes the smell test. You know, does it make sense? Does it SOUND right?

I’m not sure this one passes that test, honestly. It’s a fun exercise in pointing out that an amazing talent is currently performing below expectations (for reasons explained by ATF), but when a question is posed like it is in the title, I’d say resounding evidence should be provided — and the defense that “hey, I was just asking!” probably isn’t enough.

I’m not sure calling it misleading is necessarily fair, though (much less woefully!). But I think your points are fair.

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by Justin Bopp on Apr 27, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

This wasn't one of those asking posts

And there is substantial evidence that backs up this post which ATF was wrong about.

by Dave Gershman on Apr 27, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the issue is that it is unclear what this post is actually going for

If it is that Ubaldo could be the worst pitcher in the rotation as your headline asks, then there is zero evidence to support that, and you posted evidence to the contrary.

If it is that the talent and performance gap between Ubaldo and the rest of the rotation has closed considerably in the last year, I’d agree completely, and you provided evidence for that.

If it is that the gap has closed so much that Ubaldo is no longer the ace of the staff, I disagree completely. Your substantial evidence may point to regression in his performance, but not to the point where he has gotten passed up by another pitcher.

Your accusations that I am being inaccurate seem to center completely around how he finished. I said he “finished strong” which is a bit arbitrary. It was less strong than he started and it had bumps, but he was still the best pitcher on the staff then and still pretty damn good, so I’m not sure how haggling about his finish helps any of your potential theses.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

confused

If you meant 2010, you are obviously wrong. If you meant 2011, why did you write this in this very article?

“Judging 2011 numbers based on four or five starts is irresponsible.”

How about three, where the pitcher is injured?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

by all means publicize what I was wrong about

I don’t think you can possibly look at those last two month FIPs and say he didn’t finish relatively strongly. Certainly not disastrous.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

in his last 6 starts, three

 of them were less than 6 IP and 4 ER and 3, 4, and 6 walks respectively. His

by Dave Gershman on Apr 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

not sure where you're going, but this seems to be an arbitrary end points issue

At any rate, it is getting away from the main issue, whether he fell apart in the second half. If you go by FIP, which I think most here would prefer, he did tail off some but not incredibly so. At any rate, there is no connection to his second half last season and his first three starts this year, and that seems to be a connection you are trying to make. Remove his injury ruffled starts in 2011, and there is no concern.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey it's no problem Gersh.

…even Barry Bonds only got on base 44% of the time.

Glad you posted this, btw. It takes stones to admit mistakes and learn from them, especially on a public stage like this. Good on you, man.

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by Justin Bopp on Apr 27, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I read almost everything on this site

and almost never comment(a bit intimidating) but think this is the bravest thing I have ever seen on the interwebs

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by TomCat009 on Apr 28, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's an issue because ATF is a very respected member of the SB Nation community

And you have (at least outwardly to anything that can be seen by the public in this post) categorically said he’s wrong without any, ANY substantive evidence.

If you want others to respect/believe/understand your work in the future, you need to explain/show why you are saying he’s wrong (as he did with his initial post above), not just ignore his points and say he’s incorrect.

From the numbers you present in your tables, and the numbers presented by ATF in his initial post, I don’t think there’s any evidence that Jimenez could be considered the Rockies worst pitcher.

Maybe it’s just me, but including his three starts from this year just makes the analysis seem arbitrary and like you’re cherry-picking. Nobody would attempt to assert that Jimenez has been in top form this season, but the reasons behind that are well documented both elsewhere and by ATF above. An injury and zero rehab starts don’t make for pretty stats. If his numbers stay similar to what they are through June, then you’ll have an article.

by blooming rock on Apr 27, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just admit you are wrong, Dave G.

It takes more courage to admit you are wrong than to go down woeful SSS arguments based on 6 starts sample size.

Or explain why we should weigh 6 starts over 33 for this massive “regression.”

by themastah on Apr 27, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Ubaldo

please stop walking so many people

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by Resolution on Apr 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

better question

how in the hell did the rockies not make the playoffs?

by Freneau on Apr 27, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

our bullpen

and starters completely ran out of steam towards the end (which resulted in us doing something dumb like trading Balcom-Miller for Manny Delcarmen) – and our offense was never that good anyway (if you got around CarGo and Tulo there was basically nothing). So sad…

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by Resolution on Apr 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

injuries played a large part

Tulo missed a month, de la Rosa missed two months, Street missed two months, Hammel missed a month, Francis missed two months, Cook missed a month, Helton missed a month. The replacements (Greg Smith, Franklin Morales and Brad Eldred) left much to be desired. The injuries no doubt tired out the pen down the stretch. All that and the offensive pieces underperformed – Tulo and cargo were the only starters with an above league average wRC+, iirc

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 27, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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