The Best Short Stops of the Past 5 Years: Look to the NL East
by Justin Bopp on Mar 8, 2011 1:00 PM EST
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NL East, AL East, NL East, NL East.
For your consideration: Imagine if HanRam had Rollins' glove. Yikes. Here's the top 20 over the same period:
Qualified Only. Note: Betancourt.
Update:
Includes all players that played SS 2006-2010, regardless of qualification. Note: Punto.
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should be right next to michael young
from fangraphs data
It seems that they sorted by "qualified" players only
Since Tulo wasn’t a full time player in 2006, and has dealt with injuries, he doesn’t have enough PA’s to qualify that far back. He should be number 5.
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Doesn't make sense given that Andrus and Castro make the graphic...
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
I am betting he was DQd because he made so many plays in the 5/6 hole in 2007
He was considered a 3B in part
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 8, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
tulo has more PAs than castro, andrus, escobar...
and prob some others that i just havent looked up
It's not total PAs, it's PAs at that position.
Regardless, I think Tulo should be on there. Let me see what I can do.
Still have a hard time with the idea that Rollins is a better fielder than Reyes
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He definitely is. Rollins makes very few mistakes, has good range and a cannon arm.
The Jruth shall be told.
Reyes has a cannon arm and good range
Mistakes, I’ll give you that, although again I’d need to dig into the numbers more.
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I am sure this has been previously addressed but, I haven’t seen it.
Hanley is 287 RAR since 2006, yet his graph goes up to (I assume) 326.7-the sum of his positive contributions) but the total doesn’t seem to include his negative contributions.
Looking at your graph leads one to believe that Yuni was the 11th best SS over the time period.
I can understand what you are trying to do and why you are doing it that way (to show the component parts of the players’ value) but it is still misleading/confusing.
when you say negative contributions
do you mean poor defense? because that’s displayed in the graphic as the defense part of the bar is sub-zero.
you do bring up an interesting point that some players liek Orlando Cabrera have obtained significant value just by sitting in the position for 5 years. I’m not sure how to remedy this short of shifting stuff around to more of a per-game basis yielded from numbers accruing through the past 5 years…
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
This is a common complaint with stacked bars that include negative components.
I should have known better than not including a total. I updated the OP with a chart that shows the totals for your hopeful enjoyment.
Thanks for the update
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
Me too, man
me too
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