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Ranking The Rotations: AL East

This is a division that didn't exactly focus on starting pitching over the winter. In fact, the pitching in the division probably got worse over the winter. There were two notable exports from the division in Tampa Bay's Matt Garza and Toronto's Shaun Marcum, and both teams plan to fill those spots internally with young players. The biggest pitching acquisition by any AL East team this winter might be Chris Archer, the centerpiece of the package that Tampa received from Chicago in exchange for Garza. All in all, this just hasn't been a winter to remember for all of those AL East pitching buffs.

(And as a side note, if you think that I've missed someone who's likely to be a rotation candidate this spring, let me know in the comments. I don't think I missed anyone obvious, though.)

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5) Orioles: Brian Matusz, Jeremy Guthrie, Justin Duchscherer, Brad Bergesen, Jake Arrieta, Chris Tillman, Zach Britton

This is an impressive group of young pitchers, but it's clearly the worst rotation in the division. Matusz could take a big step forward next season and Guthrie is a solid mid-rotation workhorse, but there are question marks abound beyond those two. Duchscherer is a 33-year-old with 32 career starts and 28 innings pitched over the past two seasons. Bergesen had a nice debut but his high-contact style caught up with him last season and we're not sure how he'll adjust. And the final three guys listed, Arrieta, TIllman and Britton, have yet to prove that they can pitch well at the MLB level. Arrieta and Tillman both struggled in their MLB debuts, with both pitchers walking nearly as many guys as they struck out, and Britton has yet to reach the majors and likely won't until later this year. A rotation of Matusz-Britton-Arrieta-Tillman-Bergesen could be one of the best in baseball in a couple years, but right now this isn't a strength for them.

4) Yankees: CC Sabathia, Phil Hughes, A.J. Burnett, Freddy Garcia, Ivan Nova, Bartolo Colon, Mark Prior, Andrew Brackman, Sergio Mitre

The lack of depth here is an obvious problem. Behind Burnett, they have Garcia, Nova, Mitre and three guys that didn't pitch in the majors last season. Obviously Sabathia and Hughes give them a nice top of the rotation, but if they end up getting the bad A.J. again next season it's hard to see this rotation being anything but a liability. And it's been a lot easier to make contact on Burnett since he's become a Yankee, which doesn't bode well. There's been talk about possibly calling up Manny Banuelos or Dellin Betances during the season, but I can't really view that possibility as anything but a panic move that would impede their development. I have a hard time believing that the Yankees won't add a starter at some point during the season.

3) Blue Jays: Ricky Romero, Brandon Morrow, Brett Cecil, Marc Rzepczynski, Kyle Drabek, Jesse Litsch, Scott Richmond

If they still had Marcum, they might be at the top. And even without him, they're not that far off. For me, the final three rotations in the division are pretty close together. Romero is one of the unheralded great pitchers in the game; his ability to miss bats while keeping the ball on the ground is pretty unique and his change-up is one of the very best in the game. Morrow isn't quite on Romero's level, but he's making Toronto's decision to acquire him last winter look brilliant, and his strikeout numbers can be truly eye-popping. It's a strong one-two punch like in New York, but the Yankees can't stack up with Toronto's depth right now.

2) Red Sox: Jon Lester, John Lackey, Clay Buchholz, Josh Beckett, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Tim Wakefield, Felix Doubront

I know that you gotta love Jon Lester, but the rest of this rotation just makes me feel uncomfortable. Buchholz showed some nice improvement last year but that 2.33 ERA doesn't remotely reflect his skill level; he's more of a 3.60-3.90 ERA pitcher at this point. With that said, it's still a really strong top of the rotation. Frankly, it's the veteran guys, Lackey, Beckett and Matsuzaka, that really worry me. Lackey appears to be a solid mid-rotation guy at this point, which is fine, but the Red Sox aren't going to love paying him elite pitcher money when he's a No. 3 starter. Beckett's struggles last season were well-documented and Matsuzaka's high walk-high flyball profile continues to concern me. And given how expensive this group of guys is, I'm not sure how much flexibility they have to make changes in-season. This is a really, really good rotation; I don't want my comments to suggest otherwise. I just prefer the following rotation, personally.

1) Rays: David Price, James Shields, Jeremy Hellickson, Wade Davis, Jeff Niemann, Andy Sonnanstine, Jake McGee

Even without Matt Garza, this is Tampa Bay's strength. David Price gives them a legitimate ace. I believe that Shields will bounce back in 2011; he got killed by BABIP and HR/FB last season. Hellickson should immediately provide an impact with his strong command of a solid four-pitch mix. Davis and Niemann weren't great last season but there are reasons to be optimistic and they still should provide good production for back-of-the-rotation starters. And I like their depth, too, with Sonnanstine and McGee in the bullpen along with Alex Cobb, Alex Torres and Chris Archer in Triple-A. If you still don't quite understand why Tampa Bay felt comfortable trading Garza, it's probably because of all the guys I just talked about.

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With Pettitte retiring...

…what in the world are the Yanks going to do? I’m not even sure AJ should be in the rotation, frankly, let alone in the 3-hole.

Losing out on Lee, not trading for Grienke, and now this. You figured Pettitte was plan C or D, but he was a pretty good C or D. Now they have to hope one of the young guys pans out and they get luck with one of the FA reclamation projects.

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by Bill Petti on Feb 3, 2011 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

I think Pettite

Was plan A, B, and C after missing out on Lee.

The nice thing about having a lot of money is that they can just trade for an overpaid 4-5th starter type down the stretch and pay off the rest of his salary. Right now, those guys aren’t available as everyone has a shot, but a couple of months into the season and teams will fall out and will be looking to save some money and give their young guys a shot after they pass supertwo status in June.

Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...

by The Czar on Feb 3, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm wondering if Joe Blanton is an option now

Or would that not be worth the financial commitment for New York?

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by Satchel Price on Feb 3, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Sergio Mitre

Don’t see any mention of him, but I’m pretty sure he’s the best bet for the 5th spot unless Nova, Garcia or Colon catch fire in spring training.

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by J-Doug on Feb 3, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, noticed him just before you said something

I’ll stick him in there now. Thanks.

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by Satchel Price on Feb 3, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

From what I'd read, I thought they were kind of penciling him in for the 4th spot.

And the rest were fighting for the 5th.

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by crolfer on Feb 4, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I SWYDT

Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...

by The Czar on Feb 3, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

There’s a fair chance that Duke is the most productive new AL East pitcher. I wouldn’t count on it, but I wouldn’t count on Colon either.

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by Daniel Moroz on Feb 3, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

That's entirely fair to say

I’m not optimistic on either one, but I think that we know that Duke can be pretty good as long as he’s healthy.

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by Satchel Price on Feb 3, 2011 5:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe 4th best staff

but I can probably say the Yankees have the wild card.

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by Jeterian 2 on Feb 3, 2011 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

As for the Yankees' rotation ...

I’d put Hector Noesi higher than Mark Prior. I don’t think the Yankees expect anything out of Prior, and I’m not sure if he’s even going to be starting next year.

by Lucas Apostoleris on Feb 3, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

I guess that was the Cub fan in me trying to be optimistic

I was at Prior’s debut, got him to sign my glove. Still frustrates me to think of how good he was and could have been.

But yeah, what you said is fair. I didn’t realize that Noesi had such strong peripherals the past couple years, although I probably should’ve considering that Sickels gave him a B grade.

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by Satchel Price on Feb 3, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucas is right. Prior is not in the mix as a starter. He was signed as a longshot to make the bullpen. I’d handicap the the competition for the 4th and 5th starters as Nova, Garcia, Mitre, Colon in that order with a bunch of prospects behind them. I’d put both Phelps and Noesi above Brackman as well. They don’t have Brackman’s ceiling but they’ve thrown a lot more innings and have more AAA experience.

I can’t say I disagree with your rankings at this point. Baltimore is clearly the worst and Tampa Bay has the least question marks and deserves the top spot. I think the rest is ranked correctly but is probably a lot more fluid than your comments suggest.

I really don’t see the depth that you see in Toronto. Rzepczynski isn’t very good. Richmond is worse. Litsch showed promise his first two years but has been terrible the last two. Kyle Drabek is a very good prospect but has three starts above AA. And as much as I love Morrow’s stuff, he’s still a big injury risk. That’s why they were able to acquire him so cheaply.

The Yankees have a ton of pitching talent in AAA and AA. I’ve read that scouts consider 8-9 starters in Scranton and Trenton to have legitimate chances to start in the Majors. I don’t think they want to rush Betances or Banuelos and Brackman hasn’t pitched a lot of innings either but they do have some guys that could fill in the back of the rotation in Nova, Phelps, Noesi and Warren. To me, their bigger question is what they get from Burnett and Hughes this year. Hughes threw a lot of innings last year and Burnett stunk. If those guys both pitch well which is certainly possible, I think their rotation will be plenty strong enough and they could always make a midseason trade to improve it.

I agree with your comments on Boston. Lester is great and they have a lot of quality arms but their 3-5 starters are injury prone and Beckett and Daisuke aren’t that great to begin with at this stage of their careers. They should be #2 today but I could easily see Toronto or NY being better with a little luck. They also have much less depth in their farm system to help either through promotions or mid-season trades.

by BG90027 on Feb 3, 2011 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

I suppose I'm higher on Romero, Morrow, Cecil and Drabek than most

I’m a huge, huge Romero fan.

As for the Yankees, if they can get the good A.J. and just one more breakout, that immediately vaults them up a spot or two. Hell, even if they just get the good A.J. that would make a massive difference. When Burnett is on, he’s one of the best pitchers in baseball.

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by Satchel Price on Feb 3, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Stewart

You missed Zach Stewart on the depth chart, makes the depth for tolerable

by The_Bunk on Feb 4, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

And Brad Mills

Can’t help thinking i’m missing someone else as well.

Jays have a lot of 5th starters with upside to do a lot more behind their core three of Romero/Morrow/Cecil. Any of them could develop/refind #3 form this season and you’d have a solid rotation, and with the depth finding two to take that step forward isn’t a complete impossibility.

Personal bet is Rzepczynski is the one to take a step forward, Ks and groundballs are there, and he’s now healthy, control has always been his issue, and I have a feel he’s been making progression slowly there.

by TtD on Feb 4, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

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