A Graphic Look at Replacing Runs in FA: San Francisco Giants
In the eighth graphic in the series, we look at how to replace runs the San Francisco Giants will be losing due to free agency. Similarly to their cross-bay rivals, the Oakland Athletics, they too are replacing their entire outfield.
Instead of just using runs scored straight up, I've used wRC (weighted runs created) and wRAA (weighted runs above average) to get a more accurate reading. 2012 projections are from Bill James data on Fangraphs.
Click after the jump to see how the Giants can stay competitive.
The acquisitions of Melky Cabrera and Angel Pagan has solved the 2 of their issues. With Brandon Belt playing a full season at LF, he brings production at that spot that wasn’t there in 2011. This might be a longshot, but if the GIants can bring in Jimmy Rollins, they’ll be solving some of their run production problems at a position where hitting is scarce.
2012 Projections based off of Bill James data on Fangraphs. ^ indicates improvement
O. Cabrera: 43 wRC ^
Crawford/Fontenot: 35.3 wRC
Ross: 56 wRC
Belt: 90 wRC ^
Torres: 47 wRC
M. Cabrera: 66 wRC ^
Beltran: 84 wRC ^
Pagan: 65 wRC
Bringing in Cabrera and Pagan for the outfield could be good upgrades. Cabrera might not exactly repeat his 2011 production. He's going from Kauffman Stadium (13th in Runs and Hits) to AT&T Park (30th in Runs, 24th in hits). See Park factors info here. In addition park factors, his BABIP of .332 surely would most likely drop.
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This doesn’t take into account defense, correct?
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Yes, this only acccounts for offense. Surface look at this only. I’ll attack defense and total wins in a different study later hopefully.
I’m guessing it’ll be a Cabrera/Pagan/Schierholtz configuration in the outfield, with Huff at first base to start the year.
Then hopefully shortly thereafter, Belt will take over as starting 1B — which I guess makes it a Huff/Pagan/Cabrera outfield.
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That's funny
I think Belt probably needs a little more seasoning either in AAA or on the bench before the Giants hand him the reins and an everyday job, but once he’s handed that everyday job he better hit .500 in the first week or he’ll be back on the bench.
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by cybermaldonado on Dec 28, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Pagan should probably be in CF
And shift Cabrera to a corner spot. The logical choice would be LF leaving Nate in RF. Seeing as this is the Giants, it will most likely be the other way around. How does that change the graphic?
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I can definitely take a look
So you were proposing an OF of:
Cabrera/Pagan/Schierholtz (Playing full time?)
and Belt/Huff at 1B?
The main change in terms of wRC is at 1B.
Belt: 90 wRC (151 GMS)
Huff: 52 wRC (125 GMS)
Offensively, Pagan would be an upgrade to Schierholtz in left, as shown in the graphic:
Pagan: 65 wRC (136 GMS)
Schierholtz: 38 wRC (122 GMS)
In total, this group would be: 259 wRC, as opposed to my grouping, minus SS, 236 wRC. If we add a 4th OF numbers to your lineup toom that 259 wRC would go up, so you’re on point. =)
I realize it's not a popular opinion but...
Crawford came up as a very average hitter, going straight from AA to the major leagues. He was predictably awful at the plate.
To assume he will be just as bad in 2012 is a bit of a stretch. I don’t think Crawford is likely to morph into a young F. Sanchez with better shoulders but I think it’s silly to assume he will continue to be a worse replacement than Orlando Cabrera (which this graphic does).
Expecting that Crawford has not matured at all but, rather, will always be a .180 batter is as unfair as it is silly. I realize it wasn’t your job to write in this cavaet but .230-.240 seems a more reasonable expectation. I’d be hard pressed to say, off the top of my head, how that would convert to wRAA except to add that his RE24 looked a lot better than Tejada or Cabrera’s did in spite of his low average. Unless his situational hitting is awful, he should be able to contribute pretty well in the 7 or 8 hole.
He produced better than a lot of players in Fall League as well, showing a fair bit of maturity in spite of a skid in the last two weeks of the Arizona season.
You left out a big and important replacement
Since you designate SS as a position being replaced, you should also have looked into the change at C because Posey was there for less than two months and Whiteside and Stewart had a lot of playing time there that they (particularly Whiteside) will not get in 2012.
This is exactly what a lot of Giants fans are forgetting, that Posey should be in the lineup for most of the season in 2012, which should be a huge difference for the offense.
In addition, Pagan should be the CF, with Melky in one of the corner OF positions. Pagan is better defensively there than Melky, at least in recent seasons. Right now, Schierholtz is considered the starting RF by Bochy, it is his to lose, so that would put Cabrera in LF then.
But it will be a competition between Belt and Schierholtz for a starting position (Belt for 1B and Schierholtz for RF) in spring training, the way I understand it. Bochy said that Huff could play more games in LF in 2012, as they want to make Belt more comfortable, if he wins a spot, by playing Belt at his natural position, 1B. So the OF could become Huff/Pagan/Cabrera, as well, should Belt win a starting spot.
I would note that while Belt will be better than Schierholtz, most probably ,some day, just because he’s projected to be better does not mean that he will have suddenly figured out how to avoid strikeouts at the higher levels (he’s been pretty bad at both AAA and MLB levels) that has been his huge weakness as a hitter. He needs to control that while hitting for average, OBP, and power, to beat out Schierholtz.
Question: are the Bill James projections that you used adjusted for playing time? Also, you compare to Beltran but he wasn’t here all season. The OF was really a combination of Beltran, Belt, Huff, Torres, Burrell, Ross, Schierholtz, for the most part. Is there a way to take each of the composite Giants LF, CF, RF batting lines (like in the splits in BB-Ref) and calc the wRC values for them?
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Dec 28, 2011 2:59 AM EST reply actions
this is a special case, but i'm comparing how 2012 with 2012..
For example, if none of the FA’s left vs their possible replacements.. that’s why Posey isn’t on there for comparison. i’m going to be doing a different study on wins the Giants will be projected for 2012 in a later series. I’m not looking at any 2011 data at all.
The projections for each player via the Bill James data on Fangraphs is adjusted for playing time. The projections don’t have the ability to do in terms of composite batting lines unless by hand, which i’ve just added on my own. Did that answer your question?
270 runs created
would move them up into 28th place or something?
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the number is not a total of the team, but a total of the wRC lost to FA only
so they wouldn’t be that bad


































