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All True Mets Team

Introduction

This True Team idea is based off of a Twitter conversation with Jason Wojciechowski about True Teams. This past season, Grant Green - a prospect in the Oakland Athletics organization - was moved from shortstop to center field because his defense wasn't good enough. However, Billy Beane told Green that the purpose of this move was that Cliff Pennington was blocking him at short. I snarkily replied that "Cliff Pennington is a True Athletic. Can't move him from short."

We often hear about a player being a True Yankee, but what about the rest of the teams? I'll run through each team in alphabetical order.

Many of the players on these teams will be current players, just because they haven't had the opportunity to go elsewhere just yet. The average amount of current players per team is nine.

History

Here are the links to the previous posts in this series:

Angels | Astros | Athletics | Blue Jays | Braves | Brewers | Cardinals | Cubs | Diamondbacks | Dodgers | Giants | Indians | Mariners | Marlins

Method

1. The player must have played for the team in question for their entire career, as found by the "C" column in the Franchise Encyclopedia on baseball-reference. The reason for this is simply to make the data gathering process as simple as possible. Unfortunately, this strict rule leads to the omissions of players such as Willie Mays and Hanley Ramirez.

2. Players are ranked based on fWAR for batters and rWAR for pitchers (this is based on the relative ability to gain these values. Plus, pitcher WAR is not available on Fangraphs as far back as it is on baseball-reference.)

3. Pitchers are defined as starting pitchers if they have started more than 60% their career appearances.

4. For hitters, the position they play on the All-True Team may not have been their main position in real life, but they must have played there at some point in their career.

5. If two players are similar in overall WAR, their length of career will be the deciding factor as to which one makes the team.

6. A 25-man roster will be chosen for each team. This includes a starting player for each defensive position, five starting pitchers, five relief pitchers and seven bench players. These bench players will be the seven best remaining players.

7. A Mr. Team may be chosen if their career WAR is greater than 30% of the total All-Team WAR. There will be nine Mr. Teams chosen.

Results

Star-divide

Position Player WAR
C Ron Hodges 6.7
1B Ed Kranepool 11.6
2B Ruben Tejada 1.6
SS Jose Reyes 33.4
3B David Wright 39.3
LF Nick Evans 0.6
CF Esix Snead 0.1
RF Bruce Boisclair 1.2
SP Mike Pelfrey 5.7
SP Dillon Gee 2.4
SP Jonathon Niese 1
SP Chris Schwinden 0.1
SP Randy Sterling -0.2
CL Bob Apodaca 5.1
RP Jeff Innis 3.9
RP Pedro Feliciano 3.9
RP Scott Holman 1.3
RP Rick Baldwin 0.8
BENCH (1B) Daniel Murphy 5.4
BENCH (1B) Ike Davis 4.9
BENCH (C) Josh Thole 2.8
BENCH (SS) Ron Gardenhire 1
BENCH (RP) Bob Myrick 0.7
BENCH (RP) Bill Hepler 0.7
BENCH (RP) Bill Wakefield 0.6
TOTAL 134.6


Conclusion

Team Established: 1962

Total Team WAR: 134.6

Total WAR Rank: 24/30 teams

Mr. Met: N/A. The best player on the team is David Wright who comes in just below the 30% threshold. With the removal of Reyes, Wright shoots up to over 38% of the team total.

Team MVP:  David Wright, 39.3 WAR.

Number of Active Players: 11. This is two more than the average for all true teams.

Free Agent: Jose Reyes. Reyes is very likely not returning to the Mets next year. With his absence, Gardenhire becomes the starting short stop and Lucas Duda joins the team.

Players That Just Missed (90% of Career on Team): Bud Harrelson (92% of PA, 23 WAR on NYM), Cleon Jones (99% of PA, 23 WAR on NYM),Craig Swan (99% of IP, 12.6 WAR on NYM),

I thought the Mets would fare much better in this exercise than they did. There aren't many solid players on the "Just Missed" list either. They have had some good players, but those players didn't stick around for very long. You know, kind of like Jose Reyes.

There won't be many conclusions drawn here, but feel free to discuss this team in the comments. Anyone I missed, any surprises, any memories of specific players?

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I don't get this exercise

I mean how many players in today’s game end up playing for one team only their entire career? I doubt you’ll have enough for a 25 man roster. Thus, you end up with a large amount of players who have yet to hit free agency. This is by no means any Mets team I would have come up with. Who looks at Met pitchers and doesn’t automatically think of Seaver, Gooden etc..

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by Blame-everyone-else on Nov 21, 2011 3:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Seaver and Gooden are examples of how I would like to fix this

Let’s say we take all players who gained 75% of their value (by WAR) on one team and make a list from that. I would feel much more confident with that list. But I don’t know how to make it.

by Chris St. John on Nov 21, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Instead of taking all players who played an entire career for one team

Why not make it all players who have spent a not insignificant amount of time with one team, like say ten years or so. That would allow Seaver and Gooden to be placed on the all Mets squad and Mays (and Bonds) on the Giants. This information is available on the same baseball= reference page as the “c”.

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by Blame-everyone-else on Nov 21, 2011 9:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I know this system is far, far from perfect

But didn’t C John Stearns play his whole career with the Mets?

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Jose Reyes is a MET in 2012.

by piazza62 on Nov 21, 2011 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

That is what the Red Sox were planning to do with Bruce Chen

He was scheduled to pitch the final game of the 2011 season for the Royals, but the Red Sox wanted him to pitch for them in a game 163 vs Tampa Bay. Chen pitched for Kansas City against the Twins.

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by Jessy S on Dec 16, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone still has to explain this to me
Free Agent: Jose Reyes. Reyes is very likely not returning to the Mets next year. With his absence, Gardenhire becomes the starting short stop and Lucas Duda joins the team.

I just don’t get why he’s “very likely not.” The Mets have an ~$80 million payroll right now and there are very few free agents out they’ll be looking at signing. If they’re going to be around the $110 million reported, they’ll have plenty of money to sign Reyes with, especially considering they have no big money deals on the books for after 2013. And if they were so content on letting him walk, why not trade him and get a top prospect back?

by Evan_S on Nov 21, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

Just haven't heard much talk linking Reyes to the Mets so far

I hope he stays with them (or goes to my Brewers) but haven’t heard anything like that yet. Doesn’t mean he can’t end up with them, though.

by Chris St. John on Nov 21, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

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