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Dear ESPN, A.J. Burnett Was As Much "Lucky" as "Good" Last Night

Note: Upon further reflection, the earlier version of this piece was probably a bit too harsh. But, hey, I admit it. I've edited the post to reflect that. Everyone gets a bit too fired up from time to time. I'm no different.

The Yankees pulled even with the Tigers in the ALDS last night with a 9-1 victory on the road.

Toeing the rubber for the Yankees in this critical game was the Bronx-version of John Lackey--a highly paid free agent pitcher that has, at a minimum, not lived up to their contract, and has often exited games much earlier than the Yankees and their fans would like.

Burnett lasted 5 and 2/3 innings last night and left the game with only a single run allowed against the Tigers. 

This morning, ESPN.com featured a story about the game with the following tease: "Turns out New York had nothing to fear. A.J. Burnett? Good. The Yankees? Even better."

Maybe I'm just overly sensitive (which I admit I might be), but I think Burnett's performance was just as much about luck as it was about him being "good". Despite allowing only one run during his 5+ innings of work, Burnett was fortunate to escape without further damage, especially given how he pitched.

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First, Burnett gave up four hits and walked four three batters in 5 2/3 innings. That means he finished the game with a WHIP (walks plus hits per inning) of 1.50. His seasonal WHIP? 1.43. So he actually allowed more base runners per inning than during his regular season, which most would characterize as far from "good".

Burnett gave up four hits and walked three batters in 5 2/3 innings. That means he finished with a WHIP of roughly 1.24 for the game. To his credit, that's better than his season average of 1.43. He also had a swinging strike percentage of 12% last night, which was better than his seasonal average of 10%. So, to his credit, he was missing bats at a good clip. However, he had one of the highest swinging strike percentages in the AL this year and still performed poorly overall. If you are going to say Burnett was good last night, but bad during the season, I think that's hard to square.

Burnett's K/BB ratio was 1.00, and out of his 81 pitches, 49 went for strikes (a strike-to-ball ratio of only 1.5). So not only did Burnett provide three free passes through 5+ innings, he didn't exactly make up for it through strikeouts. If he had been pitching that well, I would have expected a better K/BB ratio and more than three K's through 5+ innings. In fact, on the season he had a K/BB of over 2.00.

Finally, Burnett benefited from a ridiculously low BABIP against last night. The Tigers only batted .190 on balls in play during Burnett's time on the mound. During the regular season, Burnett had a BABIP against on ground balls of .238. Last night? The Tigers went 0-10 on ground balls.

They fared better on line drives, going 3-5 (.600) but that was also a bit lower than Burnett's seasonal average (.701). More importantly, one of the liners that was converted for an out was a two-out, bases-loaded laser to center that Curtis Granderson made an amazing play on. Had that ball fell in for a hit, Burnett's line would look a whole lot different, and that's where luck can have such a huge impact.

BABIP for a single game is certainly not definitive, and it's tricky to interpret, but I think it provides a baseline off of which to say Burnett benefited from a good helping of luck.

Add all this together and it's really hard to say that Burnett, on balance, was "good" last night without also mentioning how lucky he was. The only way you do this is by focusing on the runs against. This isn't a dig at Burnett so much as the editors of ESPN.com. That start was just as much about luck as it was about Burnett. And most of what I read at ESPN this morning seemed more than happy to gloss over that fact. 

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Data courtesy of Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs, and Brooks Baseball

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Are we surprised

That the network that televises Yankees-Red Sox games in April, that has its headquarters in Connecticut, and that lead off its baseball tonight program the other night with “Yankees Rained Out!” even when there were two other playoff games to report on would overstate the accomplishments of a Yankees pitcher?

"If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be." - Yogi Berra

by mnbrewer on Oct 5, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Those Sox/Yankees games

Have ridiculously high ratings. Which means more revenue. And that revenue is shared with all 30 clubs. Maybe it’s boring TV for those who don’t care, but financially, it’s better for everyone, including the teams who aren’t on instead.

by Marc Normandin on Oct 5, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

And it’s not just those teams, I seem to remember them showing a Cubs-Mets game in September this year. But that just makes the network a whore for ratings, rather than simply biased. Still not something to be proud of.

I’ll stick to MLB Network, which actually gives a fair shot to the 90% of people who don’t live in New York or New England, rather than being purely profit-driven.

"If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be." - Yogi Berra

by mnbrewer on Oct 5, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll stick to MLB Network, which actually gives a fair shot to the 90% of people who don’t live in New York or New England, rather than being purely profit-driven.

Sooner or later, things will change.

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by Frag on Oct 5, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to think they won't on MLB Network

Seeing as it’s owned by the MLB and doesn’t have to worry about pleasing a board of TV executives, but maybe I’m naive.

Also, there must be a niche in the market for coverage of the other 28 teams, right?

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by mnbrewer on Oct 5, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

MLB Network is pretty balanced when it comes to coverage

Of small market teams, but in the end they work under the same guidelines that ESPN or any other network does. the biggest fish steer the conversation/coverage/guiding principles of the organization and how it continues to operate financially.

The whole of MLB is indebted to the Yankees and Red Sox for the amount of revenue brought in by those two teams. Very similar to how a divsion 1 university’s athletic programs are all able to function because of the revenues brought in by the football program.

by backtocali on Oct 5, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um

that Cubs-Mets game was on September 11th. That’s why it was on. There was a big ceremony at Citi Field and Selig wouldn’t let the Mets wear the FDNY hats, remember?

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by Thomas Wachtel on Oct 5, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't remember that, sorry

That’s obviously a good reason to televise a game.

But there have been plenty of other times ESPN has shown a game between two non-contending teams from big markets just for the ratings

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by mnbrewer on Oct 5, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly

In retrospect that reply looks much ruder that I’d intended it, so apologies for that.

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by Thomas Wachtel on Oct 5, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries

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by mnbrewer on Oct 5, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s boring TV for those who don’t care

And for those who are unwilling to wait until the next ice age between pitches.

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by Frag on Oct 5, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

this article is terrible

way too obnoxious, misapplies sabermetric principles, and generally just sucks.

hope nobody calls it “good.”

by firejerrymanuel on Oct 5, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Well it doesn't misapply sabermetric principles, though it does use them in a debatable way.

It’s very debatable how you should properly characterize a start like this. It’s undoubtedly lucky – but do we still call it good because the ends were good or do we call it bad even though it got the job done thanks to luck?

Personally, I think the best way to phrase such a start is to say “AJ didn’t pitch very well, but he was lucky. Calling it good is an oversimplification to fit the narrative ESPN had orchestrated for the game.” But that’s a bit long for an article title.

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by garik16 on Oct 5, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's essentially what I was getting at

Outcome = good, but doesn’t mean the pitcher made it so.

Given how he pitched (K/BB, etc) we would have expected a different outcome in terms of runs allowed. That’s all.

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by Bill Petti on Oct 5, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you are analyzing batted ball BABIP

based on single season data, in a one start instance, you’re misapplying sabermetric principles.

by firejerrymanuel on Oct 5, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you are using it for context...

…along with specific plays where the chances of a hit were high compared to what happens (e.g. Granderson in the first inning) I don’t think it’s wrong.

Last night, he happened to be on the lucky side of the batted ball variance, that’s all.

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by Bill Petti on Oct 5, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn't a misapplication of sabermetric principles.

Peripherals in a single start can’t give you a measure of true talent in a game, but they do provide indicators as to how much of the outcome was due to fielding + luck, and how much was due to skill.

It’s not impossible that AJ Burnett actually performed at a such level last night that his .190 BABIP was due to skill. Based on his career numbers and league averages, and the degree of standard error inherent within them, it is more unlikely than likely.

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by J-Doug on Oct 6, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes you just need to step down off your sabermetric high horse...

…and realize that in the postseason, results are how the majority of people are going evaluate a performance, and that’s who ESPN is marketing to. Plus, there is something to be said for not letting your mistakes get to you, and we all know Burnett is generally capable of that.

Not to mention that one of the walks was intentional, so I know I don’t need to tell you that 7 divided by 5 2/3 is quite different from 8 divided by 5 2/3 (which isn’t 1.50, by the way).

Also, after a rough first inning, he gave up four hits and one walk over 4 2/3 innings. That’s a pretty good WHIP of 1.07. Yeah, he got lucky that some of the hard-hit balls didn’t turn into hits, but to paraphrase a pretty famous expression, to be good you also have to be a little lucky.

So, I don’t think ESPN was wrong for characterizing it as a good outing. I’m sure they overstated it a bit, of course, as they’re prone to do, but the performance can be measured by criteria that extend (excuse the pun) beyond the box score.

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by Dan McCloskey on Oct 5, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Fair point about the WHIP

The line I pulled had the IBB included, so I’ve made the correction.

Still, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he was more lucky than good. My tone was targeted more towards ESPN than Burnett in that they seemed to have a narrative they wanted to run with.

I may have been a bit too worked up this morning given other narratives I’ve seen during the playoffs.

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by Bill Petti on Oct 5, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I hear you about the “narratives” and I can certainly understand getting all worked up over it.

I would characterize the outing as pretty good on Burnett’s behalf, with a fair amount of luck elevating his results to good.

But, come on, it was AJ Burnett…in the postseason…in a must-win game. The bar was set so low and he cleared it by so much that of course ESPN was going to overstate how good he really was. :)

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by Dan McCloskey on Oct 5, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha!

Yes, expectations were definitely anchored well south for that game.

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by Bill Petti on Oct 5, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're quibbling over a questionable headline, honestly.

I said this to a facebook commenter, but good is so freaking vague. I’m not sure Bill should’ve parsed this out as much as he has, but I don’t think this is out of line in any way.

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by Justin Bopp on Oct 5, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Bottom line

ESPN is shit and should never be watched, if only there were an alternative.

Kicking knowledge in the face.

by BlackOps on Oct 5, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Believe it or not, in Canada we have 3 Sport networks. 3 in a country of only 30 Million. TSN has 2 Channels, The Score has one channel, and Rogers Sportsnet has 5 (4 regional, 1 national). On top of that, we really don’t have any college sports coverage. 3 networks for pretty much only NHL, MLB, NFL and some NBA, soccer and rugby.

I really don’t understand the lack of sports channels in the US. With that popualtion and sports teams, there could easily be 10 sports networks.

There She Gooooooes!

by Rugged Rock on Oct 5, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm wading into this late, but I'm 100% with Bill here.

We’re not talking about a large sample here. We’re talking about a single game. When looking at one game, you need to focus on individual plays and the context — sequencing and base-out-run states — in which they occur.

Which brings me to my main thesis: luck and the Yankees defense — by which I mean Curtis Granderson — saved Burnett at least 3 runs last night, probably 4. Regardless of whether Grandy gets a good read on that bases-loaded line drive in the 1st, it’s a simple matter of luck that a ball hit with that much power was hit straight at CF. That’s 2-3 runs saved by some combination of luck and fielding. Additionally, Granderson’s lay-out dive after a Boone Logan line drive saved a run that also would have been charged to AJ

Just for a second, let’s pretend that those runs wouldn’t have chased Burnett from the game any earlier. Yes, “good” is a subjective term, but not so subjective that it could legitimately describe an outing of 4-5 R over 5.2 IP in an elimination game.

Now let’s stop pretending. There’s no way Burnett pitches a full 5.2 if that line drive drops in the first. He’d be more likely to pitch 0.2 IP than 5.2 at that point. It doesn’t matter how subjective a term "good" is. No knowledgeable individual speaking honestly would call an outing “good” if he gave up 4 runs in less than an official game.

Now back to the individual player: skill is what you’re left with when you remove luck and defense from the equation. AJ’s outing is a combination of all three, but AJ’s performance isolates his skill in that game. Simply put, if you end up with an outing that isn’t “good” when you remove fielding and luck, what you’re left with is a performance that simply isn’t good.

P.S. Before anyone screams bias or Yankee-hating, I’m the biggest Yankee fan you’ll ever meet. The Yankees were good last night. AJ was not. He was lucky.

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by J-Doug on Oct 6, 2011 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

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