Barry Stanton's Explanation for Surhoff Vote
Didn't want to clog up the front page, so I thought I would post this here.
Barry Stanton is taking part in ESPN's live chat before the HoF announcement. He offered to explain his vote for Surhoff:
Here is Barry Stanton's response to the questions about his ballot - and namely, his vote for B.J. Surhoff. I'm posting this in three parts.
PART I
In 1976, I was just out of college and working my first job at the Port Chester (NY) Daily Item, covering a Babe Ruth 13-year-old tournament. The starting pitcher for the team from Rye was supposed to be their star, a big kid named Rich Surhoff, whose father Dick had played for the NY Knicks in the 1950s. Surhoff did, in fact, make it t the major leagues, spending nine games with the Philadelphia Phillies. But that day, the pitcher's younger brother was the one who caught my attention. He was only 12 years old and playing with the older kids, playing shortstop. On consecutive plays, I saw him range behind third base to the left field line and throw out a runner, then range the other way all the way behind first to catch a tricky pop that eluded a teammate.PART 2
After that game, I told BJ I thought that someday, I'd be watching him in the major leagues. For the next few years, I watched BJ become a local star at Rye HS, covering his games occasionally. And I remember telling him then that someday, I'd be voting for him for the Hall of Fame. Surhoff, went on to a career at UNC, became the No. 1 pick of the draft, played on our first Olympic baseball team. He had a very good (though not great) career for 18 years in MLB. And then there he was on my ballot (I've been a BBWAA member since 1985 and have had a Hall of Fame vote since '95). So I remembered that promise (though I honestly can't say if BJ does) and checked the box.PART 3
The reaction to that astounds me. I expected people who didn’t know the story to question that vote. But the sheer level of nastiness, the anger, amazes me. I really didn't think BJ would get elected. I'd be surprised if he got another vote besides mine. And I'm fine with that. BJ was a very good player and a good guy (check out the work he's done for autism, sparked by his autistic son). He earned the fulfillment of that 35-year-old promise. And who, exactly did that hurt? If voting for BJ cost someone who deserved entry, I wouldn't have done it. And if the rules said that everybody who got one vote got in, then I definitely wouldn't have done it. But it didn’t.
He doesn't seem to understand that there was an opportunity cost to his vote--since the ballot only includes room for 10 players votes are zero-sum. I can understand doing something sentimental, but these days there are too many worthy candidates and too few slots. Wasting a vote like that was irresponsible.
He also provided a short justification for his other votes/non-votes:
I have voted for Mattingly since he's been on the ballot. Same with Jack Morris, who is a better pitcher than Blyleven was.
I chose Tino because he was at the heart of a 4-time world championship team.
As for Alomar, I did not vote for him last year and seriously considered changing my vote for him. I expect him to get in on this election, so I won't have a chance to vote for him next year, but I'm fine with that.
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I have no issue with the Surhoff vote
Occasionally throwing a vote to a player is an okay thing to do in my book (although less ok when there are this many deserving players on the ballot).
I have a much bigger problem with the rest of his ballot – both who he voted for and who he didn’t.
I think people are overreacting to this
Yes there is an opportunity cost, but Stanton can vote for that guy next year. Did Stanton fill all 10 slots? Who was in their last year of eligibility that Stanton might have left off?
It was a stupid vote, but lots of voters cast votes once or twice for personal favorites for various reasons and I don’t have a big problem with that. The entire HOF vote thing is a farce anyway, I can’t get upset about this comparatively tiny issue.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
t ball, as we explained in chat, no one really has a problem with voting for Surhoff for sentimental reasons
What people had a problem with was voting for Tino, Morris, & Mattingly over other far more worthy candidates.
gotcha
but the poster’s comments between the block quotes seemed directed at the Surhoff vote in particular and I’ve seen some internet vitriol about that specific vote over the last 24 hours and less about the Tino and other votes.
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
Not filling the ballot is an issue in and of itself.
There’s no reason a rational voter should have empty space on their ballot given the large number of worthy candidates. Between that and giving votes to undeserving players for dubious reasons I think it’s fair to criticize the guy.
I agree with that point entirely
When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.
Yeah, I think this is the biggest point
We have a HOF voter with a less than perfect past, and while I’m willing to give him a pass for that on a general level, it’s hard to ignore such uneven voting standards.
Voting for Morris, Mattingly, Surhoff and Tino and NOT voting for Alomar, Bagwell, Blyleven, Larkin, Trammell, Raines, Edgar, Walker, Brown and McGwire simply makes it seem like he’s just voting for whoever the hell he feels like. You might be able to twist the numbers to make Morris or Mattingly look like a HOF. But what you can’t do is make Morris look more worthy than Blyleven, or make Mattingly look more worthy than Bagwell.
Baseball is my preferred sport. It should be yours, too.
I'm an editor for Beyond the Box Score, an SB Nation blog.
by Satchel Price on Jan 6, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not Kevin Brown, he can't
though judging by his comments, he probably wasn’t perceptive enough to vote for Brown anyway . . .
by The Ancient Mariner on Jan 6, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

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