Which Volquez are the Reds Going to Get This Year?
It's been a rough year and a half for one of the more interesting young arms in the game, Edinson Volquez. Coming to the Reds in the Josh Hamilton trade back in '08, it appeared as though Volquez had turned the corner after a rough stretch in Texas. However, the former member of the "DVD" trio returned from Tommy John Surgery in mid-July and is looking to pitch his first full season in three years.
Signed at the age of 17 in 2001 as "Julio Reyes," Volquez became "Volquez" in 2003 after a crackdown occurred. Even so, Edinson Volquez has always been one of those guys who is just impossible not to like -- he's a flame thrower and always has smile on his face. The former Texas Ranger was traded during the 2007-2008 off-season to the Reds along with Daniel Ray Herrera in exchange for now-MVP Josh Hamilton. He's entering his age 27 season and looks to be the same fierce competitor he was during the season when he matched up well with some of the best in the game.
The 6'-0" right -hander is somewhat underrated. Not to say that he's Pedro Martinezor anything, but despite some ugly starts as of recently, he's managed to post solid peripherals throughout his three year stint in Cincy. Over that three-year span, Volquez has managed a 119 ERA+ along with 320 K's in 308.1 IP. On top of that, he actually maintained his velocity since the injury, throwing his fastball and slider slightly harder. Also posting a 6.5 bWAR during the three-year span, a healthy Volquez can go along way to helping the Reds re-do what they did in '10.
ZiPS projects Volquez at a 115 ERA + in '11 along with a 9.7 K/9, which compares to the Volquez we saw in '08. Having arguably the best stuff in the rotation, it't not crazy to believe that we might in fact see the Volquez averaging 93.7 with his fastball and throwing a slider worth 2 or 3 runs. Surprisingly, Volquez's curveball was much more effective in '10 after the injury than it was before.
Nevertheless, as a Red Volquez holds a 2.0 K/BB ratio and as long as he does the same over the course of a full healthy year, he's in line to earn a solid raise. A future extension could be in the cards, but it is way too early to discuss that. He's projected to be worth 10.7 dollars according to Bill James, probably translating to something around $1MM-$1.5MM which will be discussed a year from now although Volquez and the Reds need to work something out before the upcoming season.
So the question is: will Volquez regain his pre-injury form? Or are we to believe that the supposed PEDs really did affect his performance? As is, Volquez is still young, and his stuff might even be slightly better after he returned from surgery, so only time will tell whether we will see the 2008 Volquez -- or a different one.
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I think he has a really strong year
He looked really strong in 2010.
The ERA wasn’t great, but his xFIP was indentical to the mark he posted in 2008, and his whiff rate was exceptional at 13% (compared to 11% in 2008). Factor in that his Pitch F/X data is remarkably similar for the two seasons (other than less CH, more CB), and I think it’s reasonable to project a solid 3-4 WAR season from Volquez.
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he's definitely the Reds' ace
not saying much, but he’s good.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 13, 2011 7:30 PM EST reply actions
The Lizard was not part of the trade
He was had through waivers.
Also, his curve looked much better after the surgery, and he says he learned to throw a new one by watching video of Chris Carpenter while he was rehabbing. So that’s neat.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 13, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions
He was not, he was actually signed.
But you’re right, he wasn’t had in the trade, and I’m going to fix that.
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by Dave Gershman on Jan 13, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
The walks aren't remotely good
But you take the good with the bad on Volquez, I suppose. He misses a lot of bats, and he looked like a groundball machine in 2010. If he’s putting up a near-10 K/9 and a 54% GB rate, he’s going to be effective even with a 4.0+ BB/9. Not saying he’s going to be an ace, but I think he can be a 3.5-4.0 WAR pitcher in 200 or so innings.
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by Satchel Price on Jan 13, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Strikes me as a very odd skill set.
If you can get that many whiffs AND keep the ball on the ground, you can probably afford to put the ball in the zone a lot more often without giving up a ton of HRs. Anyone else you can think of like this?
by Sky Kalkman on Jan 13, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Brett Anderson
Reminds me of Brett Anderson. But it’s a great point sky.
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by Dave Gershman on Jan 13, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Brett Anderson has a career 2.1 BB/9 rate.
I also looked at BRef’s similarity scores, and none of those guys really work.
Ubaldo Jimenez is one that's somewhat similar
Gets a lot of K and GB, but still walks a lot of guys. Chad Billingsley and Ryan Dempster also have somewhat similar profiles.
Volquez is more extreme than any of them (i.e. more walks), but it’s not a totally unique skill set.
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by Satchel Price on Jan 14, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Good ones.
Interesting how Dempster cut his walks significantly when moving out of the bullpen, while maintaining his Ks and only dropping the GB% a bit.
He's really a fascinating case
Not many guys can put up similar rate numbers in both relief and starting roles.
RP: 4.09 xFIP, 7.85 K/9, 4.47 BB/9
SP: 4.09 xFIP, 7.72 K/9, 3.75 BB/9
It’s interesting how little his stuff and usage changed after moving to the rotation again. His velocity actually ticked up a little, and the only usage difference was a few less fastballs and a few more change-ups.
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by Satchel Price on Jan 14, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
So, we're looking for guys who miss bats, get ground balls, but don't throw the ball over the plate ...
Here are pitchers from 2010 (minimum 1000 pitches) who were at the >75th percentile for whiff rate and ground ball rate and at the <25th percentile for strikezone rate (whiff pct / gb pct / zone pct):
Jonny Venters (100/100/0)
Edinson Volquez (98/96/5)
Peter Moylan (88/100/2)
Clay Hensley (96/89/7)
Ryan Dempster (91/87/8)
Francisco Liriano (95/93/24)
Craig Stammen (77/77/3)
Hiroki Kuroda (81/84/15)
Jon Lester (82/89/21)
Jorge De La Rosa (83/83/24)
by Lucas Apostoleris on Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions
I told Sky Ryan Dempster and got nothing but a no! :)
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by Dave Gershman on Jan 14, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions

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