The Grass is Greener: Responding to the Pessimism of Bill Simmons
I'll spare you all the long-winded introduction: last Friday, popular ESPN blogger Bill Simmons (a.k.a. Sports Guy) shared his belief that baseball is in trouble, an argument he makes to justify his ennui regarding the 2010 Boston Red Sox. The "evidence" that Mr. Simmons cites in support of his conclusion includes skepticism about attendance numbers, the absence of larger-than-life personalities, and--an old whipping boy--the length of games. While I think the author makes some compelling points, the evidence points in another direction.
Full disclosure: I'm biased. It's possible that I may hate Boston sports more than I love NYC sports. I hate the Celtics even though I'm not a Knicks fan, and I'll root for anyone playing against the Bruins, Pats or Sox. That said, Simmons may be the only sports-related personality from Boston not named Bird whom I will listen to. So when the Sports Guy tells me baseball is dying, contrary to all evidence, and broadcasts an under-theorized argument to back up his position, I'm apt to react in a stronger-than-usual manner.
Proposition #1: Baseball's record attendance numbers are inflated by new ballparks.
Simmons argues, in a section titled "The Decline of Baseball," that attendance numbers would be far lower if not for the wave of new ballpark construction that began with Camden Yards (or New Comiskey / US Cellular). He further implies that these are temporary bump, but I can't say I follow his reasoning. Sure, new ballparks tend to increase attendance early on, but the effect wears off unless the team continues to put decent product on the field.
And yes, there sure have been a lot of new ballparks in the last few decades. But can we really credit a significant amount of this MLB-wide attendance boost to stadium construction? I highly doubt it. Much of the extended novelty effect at stadia such as Oriole Park at Camden Yards, SkyDome/Rogers Centre, and Jacobs/Progressive Field was illusory, as the Orioles, Blue Jays and Indians all started winning just after their new parks opened.

Proposition #2: Attendance numbers are inflated by low ticket prices.
In the same section, Mr. Simmons posits that "attendance numbers didn't keep plummeting only because of discount deals and cheaper tickets." But did teams really start offering cheap tickets to sustain demand after the novelty effect wore off, or is it because we're facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression? To me, this seems like basic supply and demand: individual teams anticipated a drop in demand, and they reduced ticket prices accordingly. Frankly, it's a bit surprising that Simmons didn't take the recession into account in his off-the-cuff analysis.
When the economy recovers, the clubs who don't easily sell out their parks (in other words, not the Cubs or Red Sox) will have a choice: maintain prices and sell more seats or raise prices and maintain their profit margin. Neither outcome points to a decline in attendance. There's no reason that both attendance and ticket prices shouldn't revert to pre-recession levels as the economy improves.
Proposition #3: Baseball lacks LeBron-esque star power.
Simmons is 100% correct when he asserts "there isn't a single baseball star who could have gotten a 4 rating for switching teams, much less a 9 rating like LeBron did." That said, his claim that Derek Jeter and A-Rod are the only "mainstream" MLB stars seems a bit ridiculous, and will seem even more so after the Albert Pujols free agency proceedings wrap up. I will grant, however, that we are in a bit of a transition period in terms of baseball greats: even though Pujols is almost certainly the best player of this generation, he doesn't have nearly the same brand potential as a Jeter or a Griffey, and the Papi-Manny age is behind us. This won't last.
More importantly, it baffles me why the Sports Guy thinks this matters, at all. Sure, King James drew a 9 rating for infuriating every basketball fan outside of Miami, and the only group that profits from this is ESPN. Anyone who believes that LeBron's hubris will continue to translate to profits or notoriety for the NBA is sorely mistaken. In fact, the whole fiasco couldn't have gone worse for basketball. The PR hit that LeBron took is also a PR hit for basketball. More objectively, the NBA's best player took himself out of contention for a James-Wade semifinal match-up--and thus erased the potential profit from the hypothetical clash--moved to a city with decent but not phenomenal media exposure, and proved to the world that he's not the next Jordan. None of this is good for the public image or financial success of the NBA.
I'm not arguing that James is "bad" for basketball, nor am I denying that the current MLB lacks the draw of big names. What I am saying is that personality cults both help and harm the sports they represent. In short, Simmons is right that baseball lacks a LeBron. But he's wrong about the implications: at worst this is a non-factor, and at best this is a net positive for baseball's image, brand and balance sheet.
Proposition #4: The length of MLB games is causing fans to lose interest.
This was Simmons' most important point, and it's also the one that bothered me the most. Those of you who follow my work know that time of game is an issue that I pay close attention to. Along with the effect of payroll disparity on competitive balance, the claim that baseball games are too long is one of the most over-cited but under-investigated fallacies in the realm of sports analysis. Woven into Simmons' argument were several corollary points, including:
- 4A: Baseball games regularly exceed 3:30
- 4B: Baseball games are longer than football games
- 4C: The pace of games is causing fans at home and at the park to lose interest
- 4D: Yankees-Red Sox games are too long
- 4E: The DH makes games longer
Let's approach these arguments one by one. First of all, 4A is patently false. Simmons notes that baseball games keep getting longer, and on the very long scale that's true, but this progression is not as steady as he would have us believe (see chart below). Specifically, the average duration of a 9-inning game during the 2009 season was only 2:52. Corollary 4B is also patently false. It's harder to find game time information on NFL games, but a web search will indicate that the average game runs about 3:05. Last time I checked, 3:05 > 2:52.
Now it's quite likely that Simmons isn't complaining that baseball games actually run longer than football, basketball, hockey or soccer games, but that they feel like they run longer.* This may in fact be the case. I mean, there are some fundamental problems with translating baseball to a TV audience with a short attention span, one of them being that the pace of a ballgame slows down whenever A) scoring increases or B) the stakes (and drama) are higher, regardless of C) whether the game is in its early, middle or late stages, without constraint from D) a maximum limit on fouls or timeouts.
*Simmons waxes about how great it was to watch the World Cup without commercials interruptions. This was indeed a positive. That said, if the MLS ever reaches NBA-level interest in the US, you can bet they'll find a way to interrupt the game for commercial breaks. This I would find preferable to current practices in the World Sport, including branding jerseys and naming teams after energy drinks.
Nevertheless, the pace of the game doesn't seem to be hurting baseball financially. Nor do I feel Simmons is correct in claiming a connection between pace of game and the level of attention that fans pay at the park, as he does in corollary 4C. Simmons laments, "By the way, have you ever looked around during a baseball game these days? It's 35,000 people texting or writing/reading e-mails while they wait for something to happen."
Well, I'd hate to be the one break it to the man, but this is happening everywhere, not just at baseball games. I see this in classrooms, in conference halls, and even at the Comcast Center during Maryland men's basketball games (whose fans are among the most rabid and involved that I have ever seen in American sport). Bill should know this, as no man so frequently tweeted his disgust at every boneheaded Mike Dunleavy substitution as the Sports Guy. If he sat in the stands--as opposed to court side at the Staples Center--he probably would have noticed everyone in the in front of hiim doing the same.
It's not until corollaries 4D and 4E that Mr. Simmons really starts to get it right. Yes, if there's any such thing as a matchup that takes way too long, it's the Yankees-Red Sox series, which is (not so) coincidentally the one we're most bombarded with by the media, whether we like it or not. In 2009, the average 9-inning Yanks-Sox game lasted an astounding 3:40. In fact, my analysis indicates that simply including those two teams in a match-up adds about 19 minutes to a game without even accounting for the traditional potency of both lineups. Finally, the DH probably elongates the game, simply due to the added offense that the DH provides. I doubt we'll see the end of this anytime soon.

So I'll agree that the duration, and the general lack of novelty, of the Yanks-Sox match-up which FOX and ESPN are so invested in is probably costing baseball a bit of interest from fans outside of the Boston and New York media markets. And despite the Sports Guy's misrepresenting the basic facts of game time, his suggestions for speeding up game pace are worth considering. This is especially true for Proposition #5, and here I think Simmons is on the right track.
Proposition #5: Baseball games end way too late, which is especially problematic now that young fans have so many other distractions competing for their attention.
Simmons shares with us this nugget from his childhood:
We're feeling the effects of two solid decades of World Series games ending well after the bedtime of any prospective young fan. And don't kids have dozens more choices in 2010 than they did in 1975? Back in 1975, I went outside, whipped a baseball off the wall, dove for it and pretended I was Freddie Lynn. Do kids do that now? Isn't it more likely that they're watching Nick Jr., playing video games, watching DVDs, messing around with the computer ... how could baseball possibly mean as much to a young kid now?
Now this is a compelling, it not entirely sound argument. Sure, a 8 PM ET (5 PM PT) start time for a World Series game might keep young fans from seeing the end of the game in New York, Boston or Atlanta, but a 5 PM ET (2 PM PT) start time would keep young fans from seeing the start (and perhaps the end) of a game in Seattle, San Francisco or Los Angeles. In other words, this argument bears an inherent East Coast bias. And perhaps it should, because there are still more fans on the East Coast and in the Midwest than there are in the Mountain West and West Coast.
Of course, you don't need to see the end of a game to get into it. Judging from all the families I see trying to beat the traffic* after a Nats or Yankees game, it's obvious that lots of fans don't watch the full game, especially when the game is decided early. This applies to all sports--not just baseball--and it's not that much of a problem, since revenues are primarily generated at the start of the game, both at the gate and on TV. Nevertheless, demographics, geography and the time-space continuum dictate that the number of young fans who can watch a full game likely decreases the later that FOX forces Bud Selig to start them.
*I'd like to take this moment to express my opinion that parents who take their children home before a baseball game ends, excepting cases of illness or other emergency, are engaging in a mild form of child abuse, and should be prosecuted accordingly.
There's a concept familiar among economists and MBAs called "harvesting profits," which describes the practice of extracting revenue from current demand in such a way that directly reduces the sustainability of the profit margin. Investors worried that Starbucks was harvesting profits in the middle of the previous decade, and contemporary Wall Street darling Apple nearly killed itself doing so in the 1980s and 1990s. Is it possible that baseball is doing this today?
Think about it: prior to the recession, baseball was making more money than it ever had before. Even during the recession, the MLB is doing just fine (which doesn't say much about Simmons' arguments regarding gate receipts). At the same time, FOX offers the best price for postseason baseball so long as the games don't interfere with the local news broadcasts for affiliate stations (a significant local moneymaker). Baseball's recent growth built a fan base that was willing to stay up and watch, and so this trade-off is desirable in the short term.
However, if this does in fact reduce the ability for younger fans to watch, baseball really is harvesting profits today at the expense of a weaker fan base tomorrow. I am inclined to side with Mr. Simmons on this issue: the attention of future youths is only going to fragment even further. The only way for the MLB to continue trading on its history is to invest in the future, and this requires baseball to bite the bullet--take less profitable deal from the networks to broadcast one or two postseason games per round that are accessible to younger audiences across the country.
Conclusion
My general take on Mr. Simmons' article is that his main idea is generally incorrect. I'm not sure you could call the 2000's a honeymoon in the first place, but there's nothing to indicate that baseball is in trouble, at least not today. Attendance is holding steady, and can reliably rebound when we emerge from our recession (yes, I do think we'll emerge). Ratings are strong for everything but the All Star Game, especially considering the plethora of options that fans and casual viewers can choose from nowadays. The last decade was one of unprecedented financial health for the MLB.
But Bill is partially right. In abandoning the youth market, the thirty teams and Commish Selig are taking a risk. The MLB is gambling that, even in an environment in which baseball is going to have to work harder and harder to endear itself to future fans, they can reap the short-term benefits of late start times while maintaining long-term sustainability. I fear, as does Mr. Simmons, that this is myopic and unnecessary. Play some day games in October (and, heaven help me, November). Grant our heirs a chance to dream about being the next Derek Jeter, Albert Pujols, Evan Longoria or Tim Lincecum, not just because it's these dreams that turn into future dollars, but because that's what our American Game is all about.
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The main reason to play day playoff games...
…is so that the young kids can watch the games and become life long fans. The problem with that is kids are in school and would miss the entire game.
I would love day playoff baseball in the DS round, and I think there should be a 7 or 7:30 start time for the night games like the regular season on the East Coast. On the West it’d be 4:00-4:30 start time, when kids are home from school. Adults would be at work, but on the west they’d be at work at 5 as well a lot of the time anyway.
Also, MLB does a horrible job marketing the star players, imo. Compare that to the NBA which does a great job marketing its players and faces. There are lots of commercials with James, Wade, Howard, etc. The closest MLB has are those sappy commercials with Pedroia and other players as kids. They need to market the faces of Longoria, Mauer, Lincecum, Johnson, etc.
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And on the weekends it would compete with football.
Yes, it’s a tough line to draw, which is why I’m still a bit iffy on the argument in the first place.
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So what if baseball playoffs compete with football?
They did before, into the mid 80s or so. Since then, and it was foreseeable at the time, baseball has been eating its seed corn, especially with all prime time World Series.
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Nice post
As a rare Met fan / Mike Cameron fanboy, I take issue with his Cameron criticism. Full disclosure, I love me some Cameron:
We signed Cameron for his defense, which would have been fine if he wasn’t 37 and moving like me after I sit on the sofa for too long and can’t get loose. Like all Sox fans, I watched Cameron play outfield in April thinking, “Wait a second, I thought this guy was supposed to be good?”
Subjective observance of defensive performance is almost a worthless battle, but I watch a lot of Sawx games on MLB.TV, mainly for Cameron, and have been satisfied with his performance in center field. Maybe it’s bias but I can usually separate fan from analyst and I like what he’s done out there.
And yes, advanced metrics back this up: According to FanGraphs, he’s been one of the league’s worst starting center fielders in baseball with a UZR of -8.0 in 2010.
WOOP WOOP, SSS alert, and UZR Fenway alert! I’m not slamming Simmons because he probably isn’t as well-versed in UZR as commenters and lurkers at BTF, BtB and The Book Blog are, but he’s clearly misunderstanding and misusing the stat. Half a season (and in Cameron’s case, 1/4 of a season) of UZR don’t mean much. And if you do care about the pre-adjustment, single season UZR, check Cam’s home/road splits this year:
Home: -10.3
Road: +3.3
Remember Jason Bay’s adjustment? And Jacoby Ellsbury’s?
Cameron has played through injury, yet he gets little to no credit from the rancid Boston media. (I’m from NY, btw, and don’t follow the Boston media outside of what SoSH posts. Saw a garbage CHB post today speculating on Ellsbury being a bitchboy, barf). But J.D. Drew sits whenever he’s hurt and gets nothing but rancor. It’s a no-win situation.
Bottom line, Cameron is still a fantastic athlete at his advanced age and, if healthy, probably a league average player in center field. Health is the big issue, so hopefully one of the least appreciated players of his generation isn’t remembered as a big market (Boston) disappointment instead of the low salary undervalued piece that he’s always been.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 5, 2010 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
soccer
I’m surprised you prefer commercial breaks to logos on jerseys or naming rights. I’d happily put logos all over baseball, football and basketball jerseys in exchange for a curtailment of commercial breaks.
by Sanctimonious Kid on Aug 6, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
I know it was a side point in the article, but no commercials is huge. Only a 15 minute halftime as well.
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I agree
That was about the only thing I disagreed with in the article. MLS (or other soccer leagues) won’t go to commercial (and they should not). It’s the nature of the game and there is nothing wrong with it or anything to be gained.
Fair enough
Just my personal preference. I don’t mind waiting a few minutes to keep from having logos shoved in my face. At least I can walk away during the break.
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I've seen soccer games where they have commercial breaks and the game shown together.
The network splits the screen so that half shows the game and the other half shows the commercials (with sound).
agree
They could change the Mets to the New York Foxwoods and put a portrait of the Enzyte perv on the front of the jersey if it saves me 20 minutes a game.
Watching 72 shorter games per season would save you a whole day!
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Simmons is amusing but half of what he writes is total BS (Bill Simmons, get it?) I stopped paying much attention to his "theories’ except for amusement value when he ventured that if an NBA star didn’t gamble, he couldn’t be trusted on the court.
Overall, an excellent takedown of a half-baked theory. Well done.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
I usually think BS is on top of things...
But it’s clear he’s just gotten bored with the Sox and is extrapolating this to the rest of baseball. If I were a Sox fan right now I’d be bored too. That said, he’s out of his element when the talk turns to economics and Sabremetrics. Thanks, NJB
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That's about the size of it
I think that Simmons isn’t as much of a baseball fan as he thinks he is – he certainly writes a whole lot more about football and basketball; baseball is an afterthought, something to write about when he’s bored over the Summer – so him as a casual baseball fan getting bored and wanting to change the game based on problems that he perceives is a little insulting.
I disliked Simmons’ article and am glad someone addressed it. Excellent article.
by controlled_slide on Aug 6, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Simmons would have written that article if the Sox were in first place
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by t ball on Aug 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He's admitted several times that he no longer cares as much about baseball after 2004.
And frankly, seems like someone who isn’t fond of the SABR-revolution. He obviously respects the new methods of analysis, but considering how little he writes about baseball it’s obvious Simmons lacks any real passion for the sport anymore. I’d rather he stick to the NBA where even if his analysis is a bit iffy, you can tell there’s a clear love of the game.
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball survives everything
Over the last century baseball has survived players going off to fight in two world wars, a Great Depression, a team throwing the World Series, blatant racism and the exclusion of black players, beloved teams abandoning a city they called home for decades (Dodgers and Giants), the transition from radio to television, the expansion from 16 teams to 30, two leagues playing under a different set of rules since 1973 (the DH), radical shakeups in both division alignment and playoff structure, multiple work stoppages including the 1994 strike that wiped out the World Series, steroid scandals involving the game’s best players, outrageous salaries, and rising ticket prices; and now Bill Simmons is trying to tell us that some long games and late start times spell doom for baseball? What a tool!!!!!
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 7, 2010 3:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
HaHa
Nah, I loved the post. You covered each of Simmons points so well that I had nothing to add there so instead I took the historical approach because I had to say something as that Simmons article really annoyed me.
If the 2007 Rockies can win 21 out of 22 to reach the World Series and the 2009 Rockies can come from 12 games under .500 in June to make the playoffs, why can't the 2010 Rockies make the postseason after being 51-50?
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Aug 8, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Bill Simmons, but mainly for his life stories and opinions outside of sports.
He is becoming out-of-touch with the way younger people view sports. Simmons is simply a middle-aged man who does not have the same time to devote to watching sports as he used to. I know he gets paid to write about his opinions on sports, but he has clearly shifted how he stays involved. The history of sports is what drives Bill Simmons (he has admitted as much) as he cannot keep up with modern sports scheduling. He prefers to glorify the past and work on his 30-for-30 documentary series. It’s not bad what he is doing— it’s actually quite wonderful— but as his fame grows, he is shifting to more of a pop culture guru who dabbles in sports. ESPN itself has gradually shifted toward being more of a pop culture outlet (Sports Nation is a prime example what I am talking about).
Pretty much what I was thinking.
I think he is a very entertaining and colorful writer. Doesn’t know a whole lot about sports though. Should be the “Average Sports Fan Guy”
by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Bill Simmons really shouldn't talk about baseball.
I wrote a big long thing about it.
Good work on the blog, by the way.

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