What do you just love about baseball?
Reader dougbies posed an interesting question in a FanPost a couple days ago: What things aggravate you about baseball? For all that we love the game, there always things that drive us crazy. (For me, it's managers wearing uniforms. Example A: Tommy Lasorda.)
Let me pose the opposite question:
What do you just love about baseball?
Is it the history? The uniforms? The pitchers' duels? The pine tar? The Hall of Fame? The blogs? The announcers? The fights in the bleachers? The deliberate pace of games? The fantasy leagues? The excuse to drink beer on a near-daily basis?
Here's mine: There's always something going on. There are games six out of seven days for each team, and a dozen games per day overall. That's 24 starting pitchers to analyze a day, hundreds of chances for ninth-inning comebacks a week, and thousands of opportunities for perfect games a year. Streaks come and go, balls bounce of heads for home runs, and teams turn three outs on one play. There are so many opportunities for anything to happen that the improbable becomes probable. People complain that not enough happens during a baseball game. But more happens during a baseball season than in any other sport. And yet I still want more.
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I love
That when I go to a game with 30,000 people there’s a good chance I’m in the higher percentage of people that actually know what’s going on. Other than that, the fact that there is so much more that happens week-to-week and pitch-to-pitch. I guess I just love the complexity of a game so simple.
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I agree with the original post entirely.
The fact that teams play almost every day. I don’t have to wait a whole week to see a game, it just becomes part of my daily schedule. Also, this happens to make fantasy baseball much more involved (daily moves please).
THIS
I love getting daily feedback for my fantasy team. If you can get a good collection of other team owners and a nice, deep draft and fair but flexible free agent moves, it can be tremendously rewarding.
And all because baseball has the best schedule of any sport in the world.
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The ballparks
Really any baseball diamond anywhere does it for me, but especially the big parks with all that green grass, the white chalk lines, the symmetry of the bases, the pitching mound, the outfield walls. I remember the first time I walked into Royals Stadium. That was awesome. I love watching the grounds crew at work.
There something about the baseball, too. I love throwing a ball or just having a baseball in my hand.
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by Mike Fast on Jun 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I love how
it’s somewhat of a male passage of respectability to see how many ballparks you’ve each been to. The old ones, the new ones…each should be visited and cherished.
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I like the glow of a baseball stadium at night.
I rode the subway past Yankee Stadium during the 2001 Subway Series and at one point there was a cut in the stadium giving me a view in. It was golden.
by Sky Kalkman on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a beautiful description, Sky.
I went to Comerica with my wife a couple years ago to see the Tigers up against the Angels. It was raining the entire time, but we managed to find an out-of-the-rain spot with just the perfect view of the looming and glowing Detroit skyline poking their way through the clouds.
Atmosphere is everything, and that night was perfect. Cool little park you got there, Detroit.
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by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
The game itself
It’s not like most games. There’s no goal or endzone. The pitcher wants to get the hitter out, and the hitter does anything to prevent that. It has a one-on-one element but in a team game. Just love the way the sport is played and how it separates itself from the other mainstream sports.
This would work well as an opening paragrah to an introdcution to sabermetrics.
“Outs, those are the most important and valuable things in baseball. There’s no clock. Only outs.”
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So unique compared to most sports
Most sports follow the general back-and-forth scheme of soccer, football, basketball, hockey, even tennis. But baseball (and cricket) are very weird and that is one of the coolest things about it, to me. The defense puts the ball in play. They move the ball around. The offense tries to avoid contact with the ball, except for hitting, when they try to make the defense not have the ball. OH, and it’s radially symmetrical. Totally weird.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention
There is no “goal” scoring. Even golf has a goal that you much put the ball into. In baseball you score with your body.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I always thought of it more like a piece on a board game.
Milton Bradley references aside.
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by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
That's really interesting, the whole "ball possession" thing.
by Sky Kalkman on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Only rounders, cricket, and baseball do this
So far as I can tell there are four main categories of sports, ranging from (purely my opinion) least complex to most complex in basic form:
The Race. This is anything from swimming to track and field (including shot put and high jump, those are just trying to go further or longer than your rivals instead of cover a set distance in less time) to a marathon to NASCAR
The Goal Games. This includes most sports, such as soccer, football, tennis, even golf as I said.
The Wacky Circular Games. This includes only (I think) baseball, cricket, and rounders.
The Judged Events. This includes gymnastics, figure skating, etc. Some would not even classify them as sports, and I actually lean towards that logic.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
mano a mano
The mano a mano one on one confrontation game theoristic(new word?) fight
by Alexander אלכסנדר Mermelstein on Jun 23, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
I love...
the way that pitchers can use completely different weapons to get the same results. Whether it’s Strasburg’s 100 mph fastball, Adam Wainwright’s curve or RA Dickey’s knuckleball. There’s so much variation which just makes it more fun.
by CGlaser on Jun 23, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Which reminds me,
Can a quarterback throw a curveball? It’d be pretty sweet if he could, but he’d have to have a hell of a receiver.
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by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably the first thing I thought of about my passionate love for the game was...
.. how I can spend like eight consecutive hours talking about the game, and yet still manage to realize how little I’ve really covered.
It’s just one of those things where I can keep reading and learning and everything, but in the end there is just so much about the game that I still don’t know. The depth of the game itself, how it works and it’s exceptional history, as well as the variety of viewpoints that one can take the game in from.
Baseball is like no other sport in the world, and the constant exposure to it is probably one of my favorite parts of being an American, outside of the perks of living in the US and such.
Plus, I mean, look at everything that’s been created because of baseball. If it wasn’t for this sport, I’d have to find a new way to spend A LOT of my time.
I like baseball.
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Agreed.
I like how there are different levels of baseball knowledge, too. I mean, how many old guys are there that can list off the greatest players of any year, but may not know about (or care about) sabermetrics? Conversely, how many sabermetricians are out there that can recite the meaning of WAR but may not know the history as well?
There’s so many ways to know something great about baseball, and for me, one isn’t necessarily better than the other.
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by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The Outs
I love that it is the only big sport without a clock which for me adds a lot of suspense. You can’t back your way into a win.
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by JD Sussman on Jun 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Love the outs, too.
In most sports, you can look at the score and the clock and say, “Well, these guys are just done for.”
In baseball, that doesn’t happen, because any team can score any number of runs at pretty much any time.
I like baseball.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 24, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
An out
is infinitely valuable and should be treated as such. Every out for your offense should be treated as a tragedy of the highest order, and every out for your defense should be treated as the most exalted victory.
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by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On any given day ...
Anything can happen. The “you can’t predict baseball” line is such a cliche, but it’s so true and it makes the game so beautiful.
by Lucas Apostoleris on Jun 24, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
So many reasons
The bases and mound are always the same, but amount of foul territory and outfield are unique at each stadium. Other sports don’t have this.
It’s communist in lineup construction, which keeps a team with just one star from dominating, which in my mind is a big issue in basketball. Also, the star pitcher cannot start every day, which also is more fair, unlike football and quarterbacks.
The individual matchups are still dramatic. Mainly, of course, I mean pitcher vs batter. Also, great defensive efforts, stolen bases, pickoffs, etc.
Rules are not endlessly changed to appease some powerful owner who didn’t like how the postseason went (football). I mean, I’m happy how balks are called isn’t constantly changed because one pissed off a Steinbrenner or Angelos. (That said, I would like replay added to some extent.)
No time limit. I hate how in most sports that when one team is winning, it can run out the clock to victory. This type of sport really emphasizes dominance early on in the contest. That is fine I suppose, but I prefer how baseball does it. This way, a totally unlikely or fluke event (like a Rey Ordonez grand slam), can’t be used to essentially secure a win before the end of the game. It must be played out in its entirety.
Related to the last point, the season is long enough that by the end of it, the best teams make the postseason. Obviously injuries affect this, but baseball is the most fair in determining who makes the playoffs. Basketball is also long, but in the NBA fully HALF of the teams make the postseason! And in football, so much rests on just one of the total 16 games it’s ridiculous. Fluke and chance have such a large effect. One could argue this is good, and that it “makes it interesting.” I’d rather see a postseason with the best teams.
Now that I am older, I love the statistical side of it. I don’t need to preach to the choir here, but analysis in baseball is far beyond stuff I’ve seen in football and basketball. That isn’t meant as a put down on the others, but I just love that aspect of baseball.
If I could change one thing though, I would make managers wear suits again. They look a bit silly in uniforms, they clearly don’t need them to perform their jobs, and would just look better arguing with the umpire and kicking dirt on the plate while in a nice three piece and top hat.
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by Shi on Jun 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
rec'd for the top hat.
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Even at 40 years old, Mariano Rivera never ceases to amaze.
Bad job by Girardi, who brought Mo into a tie game in the bottom of the 9th - which required Mariano to throw 2 innings for the first time in 2010 - and get a rare at-bat in the top of the 10th.
Granderson homered to make it 6-5 Yankees. Mariano grounded out, and then returned to the mound in the bottom of the 10th and surrendered a single, a double, and an intentional walk. Bases loaded, no outs, and suddenly all the Yankees fans who stayed up until 2am are flashing back to the 2001 World Series. In Game 7, Mariano famously blew the save and took the loss, right on the same field in Arizona. It was the biggest failure of Mariano’s career, and it took awhile to shake the funk. The following season was (by Mariano’s standards) one of his worst.
Anyway, tonight Mariano rewarded everybody who stayed awake with an amazing Houdini act to clinch THIS series for the Yankees. He got a pop-out from Upton, a pop-out from LaRoche, and a strikeout by Reynolds… goodnight Arizona!
by Z_is_for_Zobrist on Jun 24, 2010 2:13 AM EDT reply actions
I love the "laws" of baseball.
To me, baseball is like this tiny observable universe with its own order and logic that we can measure and record. We may not quite understand everything about it. I love that predictability of what certain stats should be: good K/BB ratios and HR/FB ratios.
I also love the visceral roar of the crowd in a big moment. Watching the game on TV and seeing a game-winning or game-changing hit and seeing the camera shake because the crowd is so loud and boisterous.
Baseball combines the best
elements which comprise any sport or game better than any other athletic event.
It contains the most nuanced skills, as no other sport is so complex that athletes can only rarely break in to the highest levels earlier than 23 and do not typically peak until 27 or so. Yet, for all the refinement of skill, luck and chance still plays a major role.
The action is easily projected (i.e. we can foresee most possible outcomes before a given play) but it is highly unpredictable (the specific events can always surprise and amaze us).
Individual achievement is easily measured in isolation of team achievement, but individuals cannot dominate play entirely (even a pitcher throwing a 27 K perfect game could only control a maximum of 50% of the game).
Further, because we can isolate the individual so well, the stats are meaningful and can bring insight and meaning to real time events, unlike most other team sports where individual stats are highly influenced by team performances (such as the linemen’s effect on rushing yards in football).
Baseball features probably the most even odds on a game to game basis, but the season filters out the best teams for post season play extremely effectively.
In baseball, the defense must end the offense’s scoring chances, rather than simply delay them from scoring until the clock runs out.
All sports combine similar elements, but in baseball the combination is both simple enough for a child to follow and complex enough to provide grown men with material for millions of pages of analysis. We can consider its history in direct comparison with the present day and grow in appreciation for both. It is simply the perfect game.
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by Mattsullivan on Jun 24, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My dad and my grandpa both loved baseball.
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Yeah, my dad grew up as big-time Willie Mays fan before the Giants moved west
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by Satchel Price on Jun 24, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I asked my father-in-law who his favorite baseball player of all time was
He said, “I hated Pete Rose. Man, what a jerk.”
After more urging he started rattling off names, but the list started with Brooks Robinson.
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A couple more thoughts
The sheer length of the season and amazingly high number of isolated events over the course of a season lend themselves to analysis, which is really cool. It is much harder to pin down something like soccer with numbers due to the free-flowing nature of a soccer match (at least I would think so).
Also, and this has been touched on, baseball is interesting in that it is both a game of specialization and a game of diverse skills. Hitting the spheroid ball with a roughly cylindrical bat is a difficult thing to do. Then you have to be able to tell accurately when the ball is in the strike zone so you know when to lay off it. But then for half the game you have to put on a wacky oversized leather glove and run around and catch the ball and throw it to specific places around the field. Everybody must do this (in the NL at least). But wait, pitchers have yet another unique task that they must learn.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
crowd noise
When I’m doing dishes and the radio comes back from commercial early before the announcers start talking, all you hear is 20,000 people having a good time.
by hotspur on Jun 24, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Royals broadcast is excellent at this.
Sometimes I swear I can hear the crowd during the last advertisement before the broadcast comes back on. Then there’s a suspended moment of perfection, like I’m sitting right there in the third row behind first, while the crowd chatters in the light of the sun. Denny’s lilting voice eventually chimes in, but not before I’ve been completely transported to the comforting warmth of a summer day game.
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I know exactly what you're talking about.
I’ve heard exactly that sound on my beloved Cardinals radio broadcasts, and it just gets you excited for some baseball again (plus, commercials are over! hooray!).
There is no way I’d rather enjoy a baseball game (other than, you know, being there) than going out camping, and listening to some baseball on the radio while you drink a beer and barbecue.
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Baseball on the radio.
Maybe the discrete nature of the action in baseball helps, but to me no other sport is as satisfying to listen to on the radio. It could also be that, whenever I listen to a game on the radio, a small part of me is transported back 25 years or so, sitting with my granddad in his car on a hot summer evening underneath a huge oak tree in the yard, drinking (eating?) a Coke float, and listening with rapture to Jack Buck call the game.
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by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I wouldn't know where to start
the sounds …. the crack of the bat (even a ping in the right context), the smack of a heater on leather … Vin Scully … vendors and crows
the smells …. fresh air, hotdogs, beer
the simplicity and complexity that are constantly juxtaposed

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