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What do you just love about baseball?

Reader dougbies posed an interesting question in a FanPost a couple days ago: What things aggravate you about baseball?  For all that we love the game, there always things that drive us crazy.  (For me, it's managers wearing uniforms.  Example A: Tommy Lasorda.)

Let me pose the opposite question:

What do you just love about baseball?

Is it the history?  The uniforms?  The pitchers' duels?  The pine tar?  The Hall of Fame?  The blogs?  The announcers?  The fights in the bleachers?  The deliberate pace of games?  The fantasy leagues?  The excuse to drink beer on a near-daily basis?

Here's mine: There's always something going on.  There are games six out of seven days for each team, and a dozen games per day overall.  That's 24 starting pitchers to analyze a day, hundreds of chances for ninth-inning comebacks a week, and thousands of opportunities for perfect games a year.  Streaks come and go, balls bounce of heads for home runs, and teams turn three outs on one play.  There are so many opportunities for anything to happen that the improbable becomes probable.  People complain that not enough happens during a baseball game.  But more happens during a baseball season than in any other sport.  And yet I still want more.

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That when I go to a game with 30,000 people there’s a good chance I’m in the higher percentage of people that actually know what’s going on. Other than that, the fact that there is so much more that happens week-to-week and pitch-to-pitch. I guess I just love the complexity of a game so simple.

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by BenDuronio on Jun 23, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with the original post entirely.

The fact that teams play almost every day. I don’t have to wait a whole week to see a game, it just becomes part of my daily schedule. Also, this happens to make fantasy baseball much more involved (daily moves please).

by ThePanda on Jun 23, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

THIS

I love getting daily feedback for my fantasy team. If you can get a good collection of other team owners and a nice, deep draft and fair but flexible free agent moves, it can be tremendously rewarding.

And all because baseball has the best schedule of any sport in the world.

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The ballparks

Really any baseball diamond anywhere does it for me, but especially the big parks with all that green grass, the white chalk lines, the symmetry of the bases, the pitching mound, the outfield walls. I remember the first time I walked into Royals Stadium. That was awesome. I love watching the grounds crew at work.

There something about the baseball, too. I love throwing a ball or just having a baseball in my hand.

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by Mike Fast on Jun 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I love how

it’s somewhat of a male passage of respectability to see how many ballparks you’ve each been to. The old ones, the new ones…each should be visited and cherished.

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I like how Candlestick, old Cleveland, and Olympic give me a permanent head start on all the kids younger than me.

by hotspur on Jun 24, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the glow of a baseball stadium at night.

I rode the subway past Yankee Stadium during the 2001 Subway Series and at one point there was a cut in the stadium giving me a view in. It was golden.

by Sky Kalkman on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a beautiful description, Sky.

I went to Comerica with my wife a couple years ago to see the Tigers up against the Angels. It was raining the entire time, but we managed to find an out-of-the-rain spot with just the perfect view of the looming and glowing Detroit skyline poking their way through the clouds.

Atmosphere is everything, and that night was perfect. Cool little park you got there, Detroit.

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The game itself

It’s not like most games. There’s no goal or endzone. The pitcher wants to get the hitter out, and the hitter does anything to prevent that. It has a one-on-one element but in a team game. Just love the way the sport is played and how it separates itself from the other mainstream sports.

by lennysyankees on Jun 23, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

This would work well as an opening paragrah to an introdcution to sabermetrics.

“Outs, those are the most important and valuable things in baseball. There’s no clock. Only outs.”

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

So unique compared to most sports

Most sports follow the general back-and-forth scheme of soccer, football, basketball, hockey, even tennis. But baseball (and cricket) are very weird and that is one of the coolest things about it, to me. The defense puts the ball in play. They move the ball around. The offense tries to avoid contact with the ball, except for hitting, when they try to make the defense not have the ball. OH, and it’s radially symmetrical. Totally weird.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not to mention

There is no “goal” scoring. Even golf has a goal that you much put the ball into. In baseball you score with your body.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jun 24, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only rounders, cricket, and baseball do this

So far as I can tell there are four main categories of sports, ranging from (purely my opinion) least complex to most complex in basic form:
The Race. This is anything from swimming to track and field (including shot put and high jump, those are just trying to go further or longer than your rivals instead of cover a set distance in less time) to a marathon to NASCAR
The Goal Games. This includes most sports, such as soccer, football, tennis, even golf as I said.
The Wacky Circular Games. This includes only (I think) baseball, cricket, and rounders.
The Judged Events. This includes gymnastics, figure skating, etc. Some would not even classify them as sports, and I actually lean towards that logic.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jun 24, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

mano a mano

The mano a mano one on one confrontation game theoristic(new word?) fight

by Alexander אלכסנדר Mermelstein on Jun 23, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I love...

the way that pitchers can use completely different weapons to get the same results. Whether it’s Strasburg’s 100 mph fastball, Adam Wainwright’s curve or RA Dickey’s knuckleball. There’s so much variation which just makes it more fun.

by CGlaser on Jun 23, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Which reminds me,

Can a quarterback throw a curveball? It’d be pretty sweet if he could, but he’d have to have a hell of a receiver.

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably the first thing I thought of about my passionate love for the game was...

.. how I can spend like eight consecutive hours talking about the game, and yet still manage to realize how little I’ve really covered.

It’s just one of those things where I can keep reading and learning and everything, but in the end there is just so much about the game that I still don’t know. The depth of the game itself, how it works and it’s exceptional history, as well as the variety of viewpoints that one can take the game in from.

Baseball is like no other sport in the world, and the constant exposure to it is probably one of my favorite parts of being an American, outside of the perks of living in the US and such.

Plus, I mean, look at everything that’s been created because of baseball. If it wasn’t for this sport, I’d have to find a new way to spend A LOT of my time.

I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy

by Satchel Price on Jun 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

I like how there are different levels of baseball knowledge, too. I mean, how many old guys are there that can list off the greatest players of any year, but may not know about (or care about) sabermetrics? Conversely, how many sabermetricians are out there that can recite the meaning of WAR but may not know the history as well?

There’s so many ways to know something great about baseball, and for me, one isn’t necessarily better than the other.

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Outs

I love that it is the only big sport without a clock which for me adds a lot of suspense. You can’t back your way into a win.

by JD Sussman on Jun 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Love the outs, too.

In most sports, you can look at the score and the clock and say, “Well, these guys are just done for.”

In baseball, that doesn’t happen, because any team can score any number of runs at pretty much any time.

I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy

by Satchel Price on Jun 24, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

An out

is infinitely valuable and should be treated as such. Every out for your offense should be treated as a tragedy of the highest order, and every out for your defense should be treated as the most exalted victory.

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

On any given day ...

Anything can happen. The “you can’t predict baseball” line is such a cliche, but it’s so true and it makes the game so beautiful.

by Lucas Apostoleris on Jun 24, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

rec'd for the top hat.

"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!

by BVHeck on Jun 25, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Stories

Even at 40 years old, Mariano Rivera never ceases to amaze.

Bad job by Girardi, who brought Mo into a tie game in the bottom of the 9th - which required Mariano to throw 2 innings for the first time in 2010 - and get a rare at-bat in the top of the 10th.

Granderson homered to make it 6-5 Yankees. Mariano grounded out, and then returned to the mound in the bottom of the 10th and surrendered a single, a double, and an intentional walk. Bases loaded, no outs, and suddenly all the Yankees fans who stayed up until 2am are flashing back to the 2001 World Series. In Game 7, Mariano famously blew the save and took the loss, right on the same field in Arizona. It was the biggest failure of Mariano’s career, and it took awhile to shake the funk. The following season was (by Mariano’s standards) one of his worst.

Anyway, tonight Mariano rewarded everybody who stayed awake with an amazing Houdini act to clinch THIS series for the Yankees. He got a pop-out from Upton, a pop-out from LaRoche, and a strikeout by Reynolds… goodnight Arizona!

by Z_is_for_Zobrist on Jun 24, 2010 2:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I love the "laws" of baseball.

To me, baseball is like this tiny observable universe with its own order and logic that we can measure and record. We may not quite understand everything about it. I love that predictability of what certain stats should be: good K/BB ratios and HR/FB ratios.

I also love the visceral roar of the crowd in a big moment. Watching the game on TV and seeing a game-winning or game-changing hit and seeing the camera shake because the crowd is so loud and boisterous.

by jwiscarson on Jun 24, 2010 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Baseball combines the best

elements which comprise any sport or game better than any other athletic event.

It contains the most nuanced skills, as no other sport is so complex that athletes can only rarely break in to the highest levels earlier than 23 and do not typically peak until 27 or so. Yet, for all the refinement of skill, luck and chance still plays a major role.

The action is easily projected (i.e. we can foresee most possible outcomes before a given play) but it is highly unpredictable (the specific events can always surprise and amaze us).

Individual achievement is easily measured in isolation of team achievement, but individuals cannot dominate play entirely (even a pitcher throwing a 27 K perfect game could only control a maximum of 50% of the game).

Further, because we can isolate the individual so well, the stats are meaningful and can bring insight and meaning to real time events, unlike most other team sports where individual stats are highly influenced by team performances (such as the linemen’s effect on rushing yards in football).

Baseball features probably the most even odds on a game to game basis, but the season filters out the best teams for post season play extremely effectively.

In baseball, the defense must end the offense’s scoring chances, rather than simply delay them from scoring until the clock runs out.

All sports combine similar elements, but in baseball the combination is both simple enough for a child to follow and complex enough to provide grown men with material for millions of pages of analysis. We can consider its history in direct comparison with the present day and grow in appreciation for both. It is simply the perfect game.

- Matt Sullivan
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while. - Nuke LaLoosh

by Mattsullivan on Jun 24, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

A couple more thoughts

The sheer length of the season and amazingly high number of isolated events over the course of a season lend themselves to analysis, which is really cool. It is much harder to pin down something like soccer with numbers due to the free-flowing nature of a soccer match (at least I would think so).
Also, and this has been touched on, baseball is interesting in that it is both a game of specialization and a game of diverse skills. Hitting the spheroid ball with a roughly cylindrical bat is a difficult thing to do. Then you have to be able to tell accurately when the ball is in the strike zone so you know when to lay off it. But then for half the game you have to put on a wacky oversized leather glove and run around and catch the ball and throw it to specific places around the field. Everybody must do this (in the NL at least). But wait, pitchers have yet another unique task that they must learn.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

crowd noise

When I’m doing dishes and the radio comes back from commercial early before the announcers start talking, all you hear is 20,000 people having a good time.

by hotspur on Jun 24, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The Royals broadcast is excellent at this.

Sometimes I swear I can hear the crowd during the last advertisement before the broadcast comes back on. Then there’s a suspended moment of perfection, like I’m sitting right there in the third row behind first, while the crowd chatters in the light of the sun. Denny’s lilting voice eventually chimes in, but not before I’ve been completely transported to the comforting warmth of a summer day game.

by Justin Bopp on Jun 24, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know exactly what you're talking about.

I’ve heard exactly that sound on my beloved Cardinals radio broadcasts, and it just gets you excited for some baseball again (plus, commercials are over! hooray!).
There is no way I’d rather enjoy a baseball game (other than, you know, being there) than going out camping, and listening to some baseball on the radio while you drink a beer and barbecue.

"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!

by BVHeck on Jun 25, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't know where to start

the sounds …. the crack of the bat (even a ping in the right context), the smack of a heater on leather … Vin Scully … vendors and crows
the smells …. fresh air, hotdogs, beer
the simplicity and complexity that are constantly juxtaposed

by Harry Pavlidis on Jun 24, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

The stats, obviously.

"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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