Inspired by Ross Barnes: Best WAR per 700 PA in a Career
In last week's post about high-WAR part-time players, I feel I glossed over the name that came up the most often: Ross Barnes. I cast Barnes aside because he wasn't actually a part timer—he simply had so few plate appearances because he played in the 1870s when seasons were shorter.
After seeing how well he rated in terms of short-season WAR, I decided to grab the list of the best WAR per 700 PA in an entire career. My goal was to use 2000 plate appearances as a minimum, but this list holds true all the way down to just a few hundred PA. (This table, of course, was constructed with Rally's WAR database. I've never been so in love with a spreadsheet.)
| Rank | Name | PlApp | WAR | WAR/700 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Babe Ruth | 10503 | 172.0 | 11.46 |
| 2 | Rogers Hornsby | 9259 | 127.8 | 9.66 |
| 3 | Barry Bonds | 12511 | 171.8 | 9.61 |
| 4 | Ross Barnes | 2506 | 33.1 | 9.25 |
| 5 | Ted Williams | 9766 | 125.3 | 8.98 |
| 6 | Albert Pujols | 6026 | 76.6 | 8.90 |
| 7 | Willie Mays | 12389 | 154.7 | 8.74 |
| 8 | Ty Cobb | 12777 | 159.4 | 8.73 |
| 9 | Lou Gehrig | 9554 | 118.4 | 8.67 |
| 10 | Mickey Mantle | 9848 | 120.2 | 8.54 |
| 11 | Honus Wagner | 11518 | 134.5 | 8.17 |
| 12 | Tris Speaker | 11679 | 133.0 | 7.97 |
| 13 | Joe Jackson | 5559 | 62.9 | 7.92 |
| 14 | Joe Mauer | 2959 | 33.1 | 7.83 |
| 15 | Jackie Robinson | 5689 | 63.2 | 7.78 |
| 16 | Eddie Collins | 11525 | 126.7 | 7.70 |
| 17 | Dan Brouthers | 7656 | 83.7 | 7.65 |
| 18 | Joe DiMaggio | 7657 | 83.6 | 7.64 |
| 19 | Mike Schmidt | 9938 | 108.3 | 7.63 |
| 20 | Alex Rodriguez | 9513 | 99.0 | 7.28 |
| 21 | Hank Aaron | 13798 | 141.6 | 7.18 |
| 22 | Nap Lajoie | 10239 | 104.2 | 7.12 |
| 23 | Stan Musial | 12624 | 127.8 | 7.09 |
| 24 | John McGraw | 4894 | 49.3 | 7.05 |
| 25 | Arky Vaughan | 7605 | 75.6 | 6.96 |
What am I looking for here? I'm mostly interested in lower (but still substantial) plate appearance guys who move up this list compared with the raw WAR totals. The ones who jump out at me are:
- Ross Barnes (#4 all time), of course. Fourth all time is pretty serious. How were his traditional stats? In nine seasons, he played in just 499 games (again, because of short schedules). His slash line was .360/.389/.468 for an .857 OPS. Of course, in that time period that comes out to an OPS+ of 168. He was worth 252 batting runs in just 2506 plate appearances. Add in the fact that he was worth 57 in range and another 15 on the bases while playing a premium position (shortstop) and you have a WAR monster.
- Albert Pujols (#6). We had to assume he'd rank highly. The five names he appears directly in front of are Mays, Cobb, Gehrig, Mantle, and Wagner. Wow. I understand he's legendary. But sometimes it takes a table like this to hammer that home. Of course, he hasn't had a career decline yet. That's bound to mess with your rate stats.
- Joe Jackson (#13). Yes, he was as good as Hollywood would have us believe. He was banned from the game, coming off a 7.4 WAR season at age 30. He still managed 62.9 WAR for his career. Generally remembered with the White Sox, it was with Cleveland that he had a three-year stretch of 9.0, 9.5, and 8.4 WAR. An above average fielder with 11 total zone runs, the vast, vast majority of his value came from the bat (444 runs).
- Joe Mauer (#14). As the only catcher on this list, Mauer does have a great chance of going down as the best catcher ever. His combination of offense (162 runs) and defense (41 runs) so far is exceeding two-way greats like Johnny Bench and Ivan Rodriguez. The caveat here as well—he hasn't had a decline. Then again, he also hasn't had his entire prime.
- Jackie Robinson (#15). You see Ted Williams and you wonder what he might have done had he not lost all those years to the War. You see Jackie Robinson and you wonder what was possible if the entire country didn't have their heads up their asses. Jackie was a monster, especially when you consider his late start and what he had to go through in his career. He earned his reputation of great defense (51 runs range, 28 double play) and baserunning (39 runs), but again it was the bat that proved most valuable (276 runs).
- John McGraw (#24). This man has the 24th-greatest rate of production over his career of all time. Yet, he is in the Hall of Fame as a manager. McGraw was pretty much an average defender (+3 runs), so it was his offense that made him worth so much (337 batting runs). Why is he underrated as a hitter? Well, except for the fact that he played in the 1800s, I'd point to his walks. He hit .334 in his career, but only had 1309 hits. But he also had 836 walks, giving him an OBP of .466. Yes, .466. From 1899 to 1901, he posted three OBPs above .500 (peaking at .547). Because he's in the Hall of Fame as a manager, there is no outrage over him not being in as a player. And despite the fact that he had less than 5000 plate appearances, perhaps he should be.
Anything in this table jump out at you?
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I'd love to see a list for pitchers, maybe using 200 IP as a baseline
Plus, it’s nice to reaffirm to everyone just how special Pujols and Mauer are. And then there’s Barry Bonds. I know he cheated, but damn..
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Pitchers are a bit trickier because of leverage index.
I could certainly try to break out different lists for starters and relievers, though. Sound good?
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Very.
I’d love to see how someone like Koufax matches up with say, Cy Young
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by Satchel Price on May 11, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a shame the numbers don't show how good looking a guy Ross Barnes was:

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Babe Ruth. How much better was he than everyone else?
What would his WAR be with the pitching included?
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I'm glad you asked.
One of my favorite WAR facts. Bonds fell JUST short of Ruth in position player WAR:
Ruth 172.0
Bonds 171.4
BUT, Ruth also added 18.0 WAR as a pitcher, so he totaled 190.0 WAR. Unreal.
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I'd like to see
How many All-Star/Cy Young (etc) pitchers had fewer career WAR than Ruth did just on the mound. Thinks that’s feasible to do?
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by Daniel Moroz on May 11, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Thinking of the best way to do it...
Cy Young is certainly more feasible since there’s a smaller pool to work with. Are you thinking just the number of Cy Young winners with career pitching WAR less than 18 and then perhaps multi-all stars with fewer as well?
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Really
The idea was to show that Ruth was actually a pretty decent pitcher for his career too. Any way you want to run with that works. Cy Young winners, sure. Or just pitchers with bigger names that had less than his level of WAR.
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by Daniel Moroz on May 12, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Ruth accrued 2.95 WAR per 200 IP on the mound.
Pitchers with the most CAREER WAR that have a lower WAR/200 IP than Ruth:
1. Don Sutton (70.8 WAR, 2.68 WAR/200 IP)
2. Pud Galvin (70.5, 2.37)
3. Tony Mullane (65.1, 2.87)
4. Tommy John (59.0, 2.51)
5. Ted Lyons (58.8, 2.83)
6. Vic Willis (57.2, 2.86)
7. Mickey Welch (56.5, 2.35)
8. Red Faber (55.2, 2.70)
9. Frank Tanana (55.1, 2.63)
10. Red Ruffing (53.6, 2.47)
There are some really good pitchers here—many Hall of Famers.
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I think Jackson gets somewhat overvalued because he retired at his peak and didn't have any decline years to diminish his rate significantly.
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That's an excellent point
I noted the lack of a decline for Pujols and Mauer, but not Jackson. He would have been subject to the same thing.
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