Another F-Lop Post
by Satchel Price on Feb 5, 2010 2:13 PM EST
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On Wednesday, I wrote about how Felipe Lopez wasn't getting enough attention in comparison to his positional peer, Orlando Hudson. Well, as pretty much everyone knows, yesterday the Twins made an absolutely excellent deal to sign Hudson for $5M over one year.
Now, I'm not going to talk about that signing. Low relative price, consistently solid player, fits absolutely perfectly into their roster's needs. It's your basic good one-year free agent signing.
Rather, I'd like to ask the question: Why the hell does nobody like Felipe Lopez?
A slightly above average defensive second baseman with legitimate offensive upside who's coming off of the second 4.6 WAR season of his career. His reputation doesn't come close to that of Hudson so he has not garnered nearly the same attention.
Now that Hudson has signed for $5M plus incentives (I knew that) on a one-year deal, what is Lopez going to ask for? Something similar to what Xavier Nady signed for (one-year, $3.3M plus incentives)? Because at something slightly less than the bargain price that Hudson signed for, Lopez could very well make Hudson look like an overpayment.
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As a White Sox fan, I was happy they settled for Hudson
I was afraid they would either sign Lopez to a mutli-year deal or trade for Uggla
I am a fan too but...
I still wouldn’t be happy, they signed a good second baseman. I would’ve been happy if they didn’t sign or trade for anyone at all.
it's about his effort
MLB teams can be slow-moving animals sometimes, and in the past, there have been questions about Lopez’ motivation and effort (see: released twice).
That said, I’d love for the Cards to pick him up at or below Hudson’s price. :)
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by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Feb 5, 2010 2:16 PM EST reply actions
yeah
i’ve been barking up this tree for a while. for $3MM he’s a steal. and he’s versatile enough that he can be an everyday player without one of our current every day guys losing their every day role
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Yeah I was thinking of last year.
Two mistakes in two straight posts. I suck.
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by Satchel Price on Feb 5, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I have advocated the Cardinals sign him to at least a 1 year deal
Give Freese some time to develop a bit more, and even sign him for multiple years as a utility guy, as he can also spell Skip Schumaker against lefties rather than depending on Julio Lugo (Vomited in my mouth a bit).
Then again, I don’t know if Mozeliak wants to hold the money for the deadline or not, so it is pure speculation at this point. At least the Cardinals have shown interest I believe.
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Freese really doesn't need more development time IMO
He turns 27 this year. Yeah, different prospects have different age curves, but he’s already entering his statistical prime, and I"d think now is the time to get him full time MLB time.
But then, I still see Lopez as a smart idea, regardless of who he’s replacing.
But then, the money would be better spent on a guy like John Smoltz to solidify Spot #5 and let Garcia get some AAA time.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
Development was the wrong word
He will still get AB’s, but I don’t think he has been able to play much since his injury, so letting him ease into it isn’t a bad idea.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Felipe Lopez
No one likes him because no one in baseball with holes on their team that he can fill understands how baseball works.
by David MVP Eckstein on Feb 6, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions
We don't really know what kind of deal he's looking for at this point.
Last year was the only year of the last four where he was worth more than 1.6 WAR (and the only one of the last three where he was above 0.8). He’s also a Scott Boras client, so it’s very possible Boras was waiting until Hudson was signed to get serious about Lopez. I’d guess his price will start to come back to earth a little now.
"We're just as bad as the old Mets, but this time nobody's laughing"
-Dallas Green
agree
Boras can make some teams stop pursuing players alltogether.
He seems like he always waits until players comparables are off the market to get serious about negotiating.
I can really see a little buzz developing this week, as Lopez is probably the best player available now.
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-Dallas Green
another agree...
I’m kind of just surprised overall, he had some good numbers last year, especially for his position.
I think the reason no one likes Lopez is...
that he is a Scott Boras client. He had a good year. Great batting statistics for a second baseman. He could get a spot on a lot of teams I think if he didn’t have Boras as his client.
FLop
Is a clubhouse cancer. He dogs it half the season after he is done trying to make a good first impression.
Cardinals
Last year paid $3 mil and gave up two good ML ready prospects for half a season of Mark DeRosa to play 3rd, 2nd, and outfeild….Seems like floppy could do that only better for less money and no prospects. Seems like a no-brainer
by I miss Jack Buck on Feb 9, 2010 8:34 PM EST reply actions
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