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BoaB Zack Greinke Draft Rounds 16-25

Draft order in these rounds is:

 

1. Steve Slowinski
2. DempseysArmy
3. Steven Ellingson
4. Daniel Berlyn
5. Tommy Bennett
6. Grantjg1
7. perfectstrat
8. PWHjort
9. Zach Sanders
10. oldjacket
11. Dan Turkenkopf
12. RedRobot8

Don't forget: No Snake! 

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16.2 Jeff Clement, C

$.45 mil

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Feb 28, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

16.1 Brian Bannister, SP

$2.3M

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 28, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

16.3 Chipper Jones, 3b

13 m

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Feb 28, 2010 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

My man.

http://www.capitolavenueclub.com/

by PWHjort on Feb 28, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

16.04 Marco Scutaro, SS, $5 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 28, 2010 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Guys: Status Alert

I’m gone for the next 3 hours or so, but should get my pick in when I get back around 8 PST (sorry eastern folks). Sorry to hold you guys up.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Feb 28, 2010 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

16.07 Eric Bedard, SP

$1 m

(Note: The contract is base 1 million w/ $99999999999999999999 in incentives. I’m only picking him if I can have whatever possible half-season he provides is $1m)

(Note 2: He’s in my RP slot due to his likely lack of innings)

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Feb 28, 2010 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

Nice pick

He completely slipped my mind, but makes some sense since we don’t pay out incentives.

by Zach Sanders on Feb 28, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

16.08 Lou Marson, C

$0.44 M

http://www.capitolavenueclub.com/

by PWHjort on Mar 1, 2010 2:56 AM EST reply actions  

Did I really draft Derek Holland?

Was there any rational reason for me to do so? Why the $&%# did I pass on Stephen Drew?

Ugh.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 2, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You made the Zach Sanders pick

Last year I took Jamie Moyer in the last couple of rounds, and couldn’t remember the reasoning behind it mere hours after the pick. At least you didn’t spend any money on him, and he has upside.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 2, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

17.2 Jeremy Guthrie, SP

$3.0 mil

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 1, 2010 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

I knew I'd get that comment...

….what can I say, they’re the team I know best and there’s a lot of cheap talent.

The THT article on pitcher projections and fastball speed helped reinforce my belief that Guthrie will rebound in 2010.

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 1, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Skip Me

If it gets to my pick in the 9-9 period, just skip me. I’ll be out all day today, but will be able to make a pick off the clock this evening.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 1, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

good pick

I’d have taken him if I had the spot open.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 1, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Seattle catcher, has a good chance to win the starting job from Rob Johnson (or at least split time). Good pop and a little upside.

One of the interesting “wait and see” things about this draft will be whether punting catching like I did is a good strategy.

by grantjg1 on Mar 1, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I came in expecting to punt catching.

But then I couldn’t resist Miguel Montero in round 10. I really home Chris Snyder spends plenty of quality time warming the bench.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 1, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

17.04 Jesus Flores, C, $.75 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 1, 2010 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Love Flores.

He was one of my “punt catchers” targets.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 1, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

as long as his shoulder recovers

and he takes some time from Pudge. He’s definitely talented, but I’m not sure if I see him having a great year.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 1, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

17.03 Andre Ethier, OF

5.5 m

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 1, 2010 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

17.07 Rajai Davis, OF

$1.35m

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 1, 2010 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Why has Dan Turkenkopf picked WIllie Taveras already on the draft board?

He’ hasn’t been on the clock this round yet. Did he make prior arrangements with someone?

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 1, 2010 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

This has happened to Dan before

No clue who is doing it. Main suspects: Sky, The Beard, Underpants Gnomes.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 1, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

DAMNIT SKY

Go mess with your own draft.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 1, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I resent the suggestion

That my beard has bad taste in leadoff hitters.

by Tommy Bennett on Mar 1, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I just shy away from Royals in general.

(With the exception being Alberto Callaspo.) The Royals are just so poorly managed and are treated by a high school medical staff. I think it best to stay away. That being said, Soria’s a great pitcher. I’m just concerned about the terrible management of players by the Royals, and think that may hinder their performance.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 1, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, I forgot he was still available.

Nice pick.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 1, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Proposal

We are now getting towards the end of the draft where it doesn’t matter so much if you get skipped… any interest in cutting the pick time down to 1 hour?

by RedRobot8 on Mar 2, 2010 12:28 AM EST reply actions  

No, but we can start trying to enforce the "Three Strike" rule

If you time out three times, you can automatically be skipped from every pick then on out.

I don’t think we need to start worrying about it, though, since we are moving at a pretty good pace right now, and two hours isn’t that long of a time window.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 2, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

This is the first I've heard of the three strike rule.

I much prefer a shorter time window to the three strike rule. I bet half the league has timed out 3 times… that would result in anarchy.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 2, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn you!

I would have gotten my pick in on time, but you took my guy and I didn’t have my list of players. There was just one pick before me, I didn’t think I had a problem.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 2, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

18.02 Luke Gregerson, RP

$.4 mil

Chew on that for awhile…

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 2, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

I did want him. Deadly slider.

FU, FO

by oldjacket on Mar 2, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

18.03 Carlos Gomez, OF

1.15 m

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 2, 2010 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like Daniel Timed out

Tommy’s turn.

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 2, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

18.04 Daniel Bard, RP, $.4 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 2, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

9 picks today....

I’m starting to think finding a way to move things along quicker isn’t such a bad idea…

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 2, 2010 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

We should get a round done tonight

PWHhort usually picks late, as do I, so we will be one pick off from a whole round. 1 round a day is just fine with me.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 2, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd also be down with speeding things up

We’re so close and the picks aren’t as meaningful anymore, so I don’t see why not.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 3, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Skip me in the morning

Heading off for the night, and won’t be awake (hopefully) until after my time is up.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 3, 2010 2:30 AM EST reply actions  

Josh Hamilton went back in the 11th...

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 3, 2010 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

18.08 David Aardsma, P

$2.75 M

Thanks, embarrassing, don’t know why it didn’t show up when I searched the spreadsheet. I probably mis spelled it or something.

by PWHjort on Mar 3, 2010 6:01 AM EST up reply actions  

With Zach skipped

It’s OldJacket’s pick until 11 AM EST

by Dan Turkenkopf on Mar 3, 2010 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

Actually, I probably should wait for a ruling on this before I pick

Does he get to 1 PM EST or not since he might not have known Zach would waive his slot?

by Dan Turkenkopf on Mar 3, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

He would get until 1 pm

B/c no one can “waive” their slot, just give permission to skip. So, I had until 11, but others had my permission to step in and keep it moving if they wanted. Since they didn’t, draft stays on schedule.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 3, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

19.1 Brad Ziegler, RP

$.45M

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 3, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

Also, we've slowed down a lot

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

5 picks so far today isn't too bad; just over an hour per pick.

That said, I’d still support cutting the time slots in half from here on out.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

We would've moved faster if you hadn't picked Ziegler...

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, nice

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 3, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

19.2 Burke Badenhop, RP

$.44 mil

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 3, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

19.3 carlos marmol rp

2.13 m

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 3, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

My pre-draft plan was to target him and Broxton in the middle rounds

and fill in with young, cheap starters. That changed, obviously, when I drafted 47 pitchers to start off the draft.

by grantjg1 on Mar 3, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

19.04 Joel Hanrahan, RP, $.46 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 3, 2010 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

19.07 Matt Thorton, P

$2.25m

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 3, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Once a pick is made, the clock starts on the next pick

Even if a mistake is made. Most of the time to person will get there replacement pick in before the next person picks, but that doesn’t have to be the case. For instance, some may make a mistake pick and then go AFK, so we aren’t going to wait for them to come back to keep the draft going.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 3, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

19.07 Sergio Romo, P

$442K

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 3, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

ah boo

I wanted The Surge.

FU, FO

by oldjacket on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

And...

You got Dirty. You can’t complain.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 4, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I see what you did there!

You hold off on posting your FanGraphs research piece about Tony until he falls into your lap here… nice work.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 4, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

In a way, yes

It was going up this morning whether I got him or not, so I was hoping I got the chance to pick before it went up.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 4, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

20.1 Sean Rodriguez, 2B/SS

$.45M

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 4, 2010 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

Nice choice

I was considering him but didn’t really need another MI

by Dan Turkenkopf on Mar 4, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Great pick.

I thought he might fly under the radar a little while longer.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 4, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

20.2 Josh Willingham, OF

$4.6 mil

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 4, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

20.07 Ryan Garko, 1B

$.550m

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 4, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, you can.

Unless we want to retroactively re do the draft, because players like Jason Heyward and Desmond Jennings have already been drafted.

by PWHjort on Mar 4, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

Forgot about that. Seems strange that Heyward isn’t on 40-man, though. I assume the Braves have an open spot?

by Zach Sanders on Mar 4, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No, actually

They have 41 players on their 40-man roster (1 on 60-day DL, though). They’ll have to DFA someone whenever they give Heyward the job.

by PWHjort on Mar 4, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

20.04 Matt LaPorta, 1B, $.4 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 4, 2010 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

well then... be amazed no more!

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 4, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What did he do?

I’m not following ST games, except those of the Mets when I get the chance.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Game winning hit, stole a base

Good showing overall, and you know how much ST games mean.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

21.1 Kelly Shoppach, C

$2.25M

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 5, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

21.2 Felix Pie, Util

$.44 mil

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 5, 2010 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

21.08 Stephen Strasburg, P

$2 M

Spreadsheet says $3.875 M. I don’t know where they got that.

by PWHjort on Mar 5, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

$2mm is correct

Whoever did the Nats must of just taken his total salary and divided it up by year. Maybe the breakdown wasn’t up yet?

by Zach Sanders on Mar 5, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't he be 4.5?

$2 million for salary and $2.5 for his signing bonus?

From Cots:

  1. 4 years/$15.1M (2009-12)

    * signed Major League contract with Washington 8/17/09
    * $7.5M signing bonus
      (paid in 3 installments of $2.5M, 9/1/09, 1/10/10, 1/10/11)
    * 09:$0.4M (pro-rated), 10:$2M, 11:$2.5M, 12:$3M

by Dan Turkenkopf on Mar 5, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't believe draft signing bonuses count, though I could be wrong.

Every player gets a signing bonus, but that doesn’t mean we include it here.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 5, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

In that case, we'd have to go back and find all the pre-arb players who signed major league contracts

and include their signing bonus. This would include David Price and many others I assume.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 5, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Their bonuses should have been/were included (hopefully) in the spreadsheet.

Also, going back that many rounds this late is going to cause real problems with people expecting to pay a certain amount.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a difference between a draft bonus and an MLB signing bonus.

Strasburg signed a MLB deal.

Draft bonuses are paid then and there and should not be considered. MLB signing bonuses effect salary distribution and it’s arguable whether or not they should be considered.

Does anyone have a link to the thread in which the rules on this are published/discussed? I’ve tried searching and haven’t found much.

Either way I’m keeping Strasburg, but I’d like to know for sure if he’s owed $2 million or $4.5 million before my next pick. Could matter a lot.

by PWHjort on Mar 5, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

first time I've missed a guy for timing out.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 5, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

21.07 Nick Hundley, C

$.44m

Sorry guys, I’ve been knocked out sick for the past 5 hours.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 5, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

21.04 Dan Runzler, RP, $.4 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 5, 2010 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

damnit.

I was totally going to take him.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 5, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, so is 1/4 of this draft familiar with the Giants, or did you just pick him because he looked enticing?

I live in the Bay Area (even though I’m a Mariners fan like Zach) but follow the Giants, and I know oldjacket does. So where does your allegiance lie Daniel?

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 5, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No way.

He’s clearly adamlawson

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 5, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha.

adamlawson. What a guy.

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 5, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I just know my stuff.

Zach is correct.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 5, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha! I know Dan Runzler.

I remember a hilarious discussion about him in the ZiPS projection thread over at BBTF… good times.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 6, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Uggh, don’t remind me.

--
Dan Szymborski
dan@baseballprimer.com

by D.Szymborski on Mar 6, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

wait, was that GiantsRainMan? I feel sorry that he’s leaked out from McCovey Chronicles.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 6, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It was him and one other guy named “tropicofcancer” that gave me a headache.

I’m generally used to hate mail, however, so don’t worry about it. You should see some of the stuff lately I’ve gotten from J.A. Happ fans. One would think I accused him of being in Al-Qaeda rather than suggest in an article that he’ll merely be an average starter in 2010.

--
Dan Szymborski
dan@baseballprimer.com

by D.Szymborski on Mar 6, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

21.10 Joey Devine, RP

$0.56 mm

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 5, 2010 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting pick.

I love him, but thought the risk was too high for my liking.

by Zach Sanders on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

to be honest, my spreadsheet is inaccessable and coming up with middle relievers on the fly is really tough. Plan A was Runzler.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 5, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

can I send a queue to someone?

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 6, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

Steve Slowinski timed out at 8:27 PM. DempseysArmy timed out at 10:27 AM.

It’s time to make Ellingson’s pick, right?

by PWHjort on Mar 6, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

22.02 Peter Moulan, RP

$1.15 mil

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 6, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

Feel free to skip me until Tuesday...

….I’m in Sarasota and my access to internet is sporadic and unpredictable.

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 6, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

And that's "Moylan" not "Moulan"

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

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by DempseysArmy on Mar 6, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

ok, so 20.03 Jason Bulger

For real this time.

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 6, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, I see now my pick ended up going through the first time

Tanks PWH

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 6, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad it worked out.

I would’ve felt like dog shit if someone else had taken him.

My apologies, by the way.

by PWHjort on Mar 6, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

22.05 Jason Frasor, RP

$2.65 M

I believe Daniel Berlyn has timed out

by Tommy Bennett on Mar 6, 2010 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

That dude hit a majestic home run last year.

Longest home run of 2009. You can see the video of it here (via Hit tracker), if you click on Balentin’s solo blast under October 2nd.

by PWHjort on Mar 6, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

22.04 Jesus Montero, C, $.4 M

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by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 6, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

I have been wondering when Crush Davis would go for rounds now.

I love his offensive potential for standard fantasy leagues, but couldn’t sell myself on his upside in this format.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 6, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t love the pick, myself. Wasn’t much left in the way of position players. Figured I’m better off just taking the cheapest power hitter and spending $6 million on my last 3 picks (all relievers).

by PWHjort on Mar 7, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, that was the first time I’ve picked someone on a team I already have a player from. Colby Lewis being the other Ranger. Before that I’d picked 21 players from 21 teams. Not intentionally, just a weird coincidence.

by PWHjort on Mar 7, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The only alumni of my high school to make it to MLB.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 7, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Pacific Heights

upscale.

Tyler Walker’s wikipedia page is unexpectedly amusing. I didn’t know his nickname at Berkeley was “The Gobbler”.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 7, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, so quickly we forget.

Brian Greer.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 7, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s the Sonora high in southern CA, near La Brea, as opposed to my hometown in the Sierra foothills. I know that Coke went to the right one because he was on a travelling all-star team with my little sister.

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by oldjacket on Mar 7, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

that's pretty cool.

But that’s also in the middle of nowhere. I was in Fresno yesterday for a tennis tournament (why I wasn’t able to pick, should have told you guys), and it seemed really out of the way. Your sister had to have traveled a long ways.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 7, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Fresno manages to be an inconvenient drive from seemingly everywhere in California.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 7, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, in the tennis tournament. That’s a crazy long drive. All of Yosemite, plus a huge chunk of the San Joaquin is in the way.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 7, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

22.07 Ryan Roberts, 2B

$.44m

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by perfectstrat on Mar 7, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

23.04 Brett Wallace, 3B, $.4 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 7, 2010 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

23.02 Kam Mickolio, RP

$.44 mil

And again, no need to wait for me to time out…skip me until Tuesday to move things along.

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http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 7, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

23.03 Alberto Arias RP

4.16 m

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 7, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't think I'd have to look someone up!

Also, I hope you mean .416 M.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 7, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha. Yes. I don't have 4 million left.

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 8, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

if his shoulder stays attached to his torso, yes.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 8, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

23.10 Chris Carter, 1B-OF

$0.4 mil

the Oakland CC, not the Met

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

it could mean that Jack Cust turned into a pile of Jell-O

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 8, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

24.1 Grant Balfour, RP

$2.05M

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 8, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Ha, yeah

And 7 overall on my team. They’re the team I know best and now that it’s getting deep, I’m going with what I know.

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

DempseysArmy we can skip.

So, Steve Ellingson is on the clock until 6:05 PM (or, until he makes his pick).

by PWHjort on Mar 8, 2010 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

24.2 Carlos Villanueva

.95 mm

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 8, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

RP

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 8, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

24.3

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 8, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

24.04 Carlos Rosa, RP, $.4 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 8, 2010 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

24.2 Frank Francisco, RP

$3.27 mil

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http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

24.10 Landon Powell, C

$0.44 mil

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 9, 2010 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

With one round left, there is still $31M on the table, by my calculations.

Surprising. That’s more than $2.5M/team, just a tad more than the average $2.4M/player we were allotted. I am interested to see who these “replacement level” multi-million earners are.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 9, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

25.1 Skip Schumaker, Utl

$2.0M

I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.

by Steve Slowinski on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

25.2 Shawn Camp, RP

$1.15 mil

I've got nothing against the bunt...in its place. But most of the time that place is the bottom of a long-forgotten closet. - Earl Weaver

http://dempseysarmy.blogspot.com

by DempseysArmy on Mar 9, 2010 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

This pick really surprised me.

If you don’t mind my asking, why did you go for Ross over Shane Victorino? Obviously you had a ton of alternatives as the high stack, but I thought the Flyin’ Hawaiian looked like the clear choice.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 9, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Ross' chances to be much better defensively this year

It is definitely a close call, and I love Victorino. I think most people in this draft are using CHONE more than any other projection system (at least that is the sense I get), and CHONE is lower on Ross than any other system. I also use my own UZR projections, which paint a different picture.

Of course, I could be wrong. We’ll just have to see.

by Tommy Bennett on Mar 9, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

All valid points.

My thought process was less detailed than comparing projection systems or flavors of UZR; I just think they have similar upside but Ross has much more downside. If they both slump for the first half, Victorino keeps running out there but Ross could easily find himself warming the bench.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 10, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

25.04 Kyle "The Farnbuster" Farnsworth, RP, $4.5 M

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 9, 2010 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

What's the matter guys... petrified with fear? Numb with defeat?

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 9, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Speechless.

I definitely thought you were bluffing about selecting Farnsworth.

by RedRobot8 on Mar 10, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

25.10 Josh Bell, 3B

$0.44 mil

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

I think a lot of Giant fans would like to see him get a shot. If he’s playing 1B, his defense might kill his value though.

Mark DeRosa: the rare utility player who can provide some utility.

by oldjacket on Mar 10, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, should be $.4 m

Not that anyone cares at this point, cuz I have oodles of money.

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on Mar 10, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

25.03 Ben Revere OF,

.4 mm

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 10, 2010 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

Sort of forgot I had another pick....

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 10, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

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