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WAR-Based Fantasy Basebally League

I had originally posted this over on pinstripe alley, but garnered little to no interest. Let me know if you guys are interested in this:

If you’re like me, you enjoy fantasy baseball. If you’re even more like me, you are frustrated by some of the limitations of fantasy baseball. Most of the stats regularly used in the hobby are ones that very poorly reflect a player’s performance. Often, a player’s fantasy baseball stats such as runs scored, RBI, and wins are more a product of the team’s performance than the player himself. This causes some very good players on poor teams to be undervalued and worse players on better teams to be overvalued.

Another issue I have is the way certain players that dominate a particular category have so much fantasy value. Jacoby Ellsbury’s 70 steals last year have led him to be ranked the 6th best position player by ESPN.com. While Ellsbury is a good player, any system that ranks him above Ryan Braun and Matt Kemp is just silly. Another thing is that defense is essentially ignored completely. It’s hard to take a game seriously when Franklin Gutierrez’s defense in CF is valued the same as Vernon Wells’.

The problem with started a league based on advanced metrics such as UZR, wOBA, and wRC+ is that ESPN and Yahoo! don’t allow you to use them. Categories are very limited to say the least. I decided that instead of doing this; why not just use the stat that is generally regarded as the one that best encompasses a player’s value. I decided Wins Above Replacement (WAR) was the way to go. Since I’m more familiar with ESPN, I’ll be starting the league there. My plan is to have 20 teams, with each team having 5 keeper players from the real life team. That is, if you choose the Yankees, you might make your keeper players Derek Jeter, Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, and CC Sabathia (whatever you see fit). The rest of the players will be pooled together and either drafted or auctioned. I will then do weekly calculations of the players’ performance based on their WAR numbers and post the weekly standings. We will essentially ignore ESPN’s standings as they’ll likely be different from mine.

Please let me know if you guys are interested by putting your email address in your comment and which team you’d like and I’ll send you an invite. Also, let me know if you have any suggestions about his.

Edit: I'm considering scrapping the pick a team, get 5 keepers idea in favor of just a straight draft. We'd still have keepers if we want to keep the league going in 2011, but they would just be your drafted players, not the ones from any specific team. I think this might create a greater appeal. Anybody who is interested let me know which you prefer.

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I'd absolutely do this...IF:

It is a straight draft, and there are no salaries involved.

I’m not crazy about the five keeper thing (how do you decide who gets what team? mini draft?), but I’m desperate to avoid caring about batting average in fantasy for another year.

rdwyer86@gmail.com

by WeNeedDavidJustice on Feb 24, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like we're leaning that way (straight draft)...

Since it’ll be more complex than a regular league anyways, it’ll be easier to keep it simpler.
I’ll send to invite in a sec.

by Leviticus6688 on Feb 25, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree on this.

I’d be down, but I’d prefer a straight draft, no budget, and scrap the five-keeper thing.

satcheleprice AT gmail.com

I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy

by Satchel Price on Feb 25, 2010 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

To correct myself

I’m okay with the five-keepers as long as they’re guys we drafted. The whole team keeper concept seems confusing and potentially unfair.

I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy

by Satchel Price on Feb 25, 2010 10:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I decided to switch to just a straight draft and then have 5 keepers going forward, the people who get the Phillies and Yankees would probably have too much of a leg up. No draft date is set yet, but I’ll send the invite shortly.

by Leviticus6688 on Feb 25, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Question about scoring...

Are there transactions in the league? If so, how are you going to calculate all of those partial WARs by yourself?

Seems like it is going to be difficult!

by WeNeedDavidJustice on Feb 25, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be willing to give it a shot

20 teams sounds like it might be difficult to fill (at least with people who check for a full season) shroudedhills at gmail.com

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Feb 26, 2010 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

i'd love to do it

it just depends on when the draft is
chiefjamesp at gmail.com

by chiefjamesp on Feb 28, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

That sounds awesome

I’d totally be down

dharmagalactica13 [at] gmail dot com

by sexbobomb on Mar 1, 2010 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

I would probably do it.

Just email me when ready and I will probably tag along. I have been looking for a ‘WAR’ based league, it will be the only way that I end up playing fantasy baseball.

joefromnewhampshire@yahoo.com

by goeaglesxxxix on Mar 2, 2010 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

I'll do it if there's room.

I’m not a big fantasy guy, but I made all these fancy spreadsheets for the BOAB league, and since this league will be based on the same stat (WAR) it should be pretty easy to do.

One thing. will you be letting fangraphs calculate WAR or will you be calculating it yourself?

stevenellingson@hotmail.com

"Pinch-bunters don't have a ton of value, even with the Twins"

by Steven Ellingson on Mar 5, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

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