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BoaB Billy Butler Division - Draft Rounds 1-5

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Alright , the Zack Greinke draft is moving along nicely so let's go ahead and get going.   While our draft does not officially begin until Monday at 9am EST, some picks may be made before hand (time limit does not apply). Some reminders on rules:

  • 12 team modified snake draft
    • $60MM budget using actual MLB salaries
    • 25-man roster, no subs, no transactions
    • The only scoring category is WAR, as determined by Fangraphs.
    • Draft runs 9am - 9pm EST, 2 hours per pick. Once time has elapsed, others may pick at will behind them and the owner who missed their pick can slide in at any time and make it up.  You may pick outside of the allotted time frame, but are not required.

    Now, some simple guidelines for this thread:

    • Picks are to be made in the subject line. Here is an example pick...Subject: 1.01 Ichiro Suzuki, OF Message: $17mm. Pretty simple, right?
    • Once a pick is made, enter it into our draft board on GoogleDocs. Also enter it into your team page for easy reference.
    • Play nice. If you want to taunt someone for their pick, don't start a new comment thread just reply to their pick.

    Now, here is the draft order and links to the key spreadsheets for the league. Since this post will handle draft rounds 1-5, standard snake is in play at this point.  Here is the draft order. 

     

    For some of you I only have emails, so if you could let me know SBN and change it on the Google Doc. 

     

    Here is the draft order:

    1. victor06
    2. staplemaniac
    3. philkid3
    4. tom.haberstroh
    5. Sky
    6. satcheleprice
    7. wydiyd
    8. WeNeedDavidJustice
    9. jr92
    10. sfiercex4
    11. chiefjamesp
    12. johnrr12

     

     

     

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    So what happens if we get a bunch of people who draft before we're supposed to start

    and then someone has to wait until their “scheduled time” to draft and we all have to wait like, 3 days to pick again?

    by staplemaniac on Feb 21, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

    I'm confused by the question.

    Tomorrow at 9, whoever hasn’t picked today will be on the clock until 11.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

    Ah, that makes more sense

    I thought, say, Sky didn’t pick until his time was up, and his time started at 5PM tomorrow regardless of when everyone else before him picked.

    by staplemaniac on Feb 21, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    I doubt it will take near that long.

    The most time that can go between one person’s picks is a little more than that, but that’s only for the ends and if everyone single person uses their entire clock for every pick.

    We’ve already gotten through 1/4th of the first round 16 hours before the clock even starts. I doubt anyone will be waiting more than a day at most, especially with a shorter clock than last year.

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    by philkid3 on Feb 21, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

    Sweet

    Now I am guaranteed one of Betancourt, Guillen, Kendall or Bloomquist.

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 21, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

    How are we handling SP/RP?

    I’m fine with not separating the roles. Having an IP “maximum” is motivation enough not to load up on SP (having extra innings will devalue the WAR of the good starters).

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    by Sky Kalkman on Feb 22, 2010 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

    We are just going with a max innings for all pitchers.

    It is too hard to divide up the information later.

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

    Sky - I just looked back and saw that we stated 6/6

    We will stay that way, unless we decided to go ignore it. Thoughts?

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

    If we keep that split, we just need a way to determine who's a SP and who's a RP.

    I’d usually argue not to change the rules once started, but in this case, we don’t have a full rule in place and changing rules both won’t create much of an issue and creates a more defined rule that easier to follow. I’m ok either way, just want to define it.

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    by Sky Kalkman on Feb 22, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

    can pitchers be defined by the nature of their appearances?

    this is probably dumb, but
    what about if GS/G>=.5, then SP; if GS/G<.5,RP?
    but at any rate, again, isn’t the innings limit enough of a deterrent anyway?

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 22, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

    I agree with the innings

    I wished I would have removed the 6/6.

    I like the GS/G>=.5, then SP; if GS/G<.5,R

    but would be inclined to ignore 6/6.

    Also tom.haberstroh has about 10 minutes to pick. Sky you counting down the minutes?

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

    I missed the IP limit

    What is it/how is it being enforced? And where is it stated?

    by staplemaniac on Feb 22, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

    Here

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/1/25/1269273/btbs-ball-on-a-budget-fantasy

    PA limit of 6250 and IP limits of 1450 for pitchers (average team numbers for 2009 rounded to closest 50). If any group exceeds those totals, the WAR for that group will be prorated down to the playing-time limit. This is key. You will likely fill out your team with cheap scrubs without a ton of playing time, concentrating money on the starting lineup.

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

    For what it's worth,

    the Zack Greinke division (a.k.a. “the awesome division”), decided to disregard the SP/RP distinction and just let the IP cap work its magic.

    by RedRobot8 on Feb 23, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

    so what does that make our division?

    looking back over the thread now, your aside gave a chuckle!

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 23, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

    i got lucky

    i am pretty psyched, though its kinda rough that two people had to miss their turns for it to happen…I didn’t expect him to be there, and doubt he would have if everyone had been able to pick on time, but thems the breaks i guess…game on!

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 22, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

    how'd that go?

    i’d probably be all disoriented if i tried.

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 22, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

    Time Test

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

    thats not right, is it...

    its actually another 2 hours, right?

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 22, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

    yeah, thanks

    i hate sounding like an overanxious jerk, i was just confused for a minute

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 22, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

    Well, last season, we just skipped both, because if we came back to habetw4

    We would have skipped him again.

    We can let Johnrrrr off this time, but once someone is skipped for 2 hours, they skip their next picks.

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

    Damn

    He was going to be my pick

    by Jeff Reese on Feb 22, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

    just letting you know

    he played shortstop and third base last season, so that’s what he qualifies for.

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    by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 22, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

    Thanks

    I kept going back and forth between Kershaw and Beckham while I was waiting for my pick and your selection made my decision pretty easy.

    by Jeff Reese on Feb 22, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

    2.05 Umbaldo Jimene

    1.25M

    i was emailed the pick

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

    2.06 Timmy Lincecum

    9 M

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 22, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

    ARGH!

    The top guy on my board hadn’t been taken since HanRam.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 22, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

    That's such a huge chunk of the payroll though

    I don’t know if I’d tie up that much this early on, regardless of how good they are.

    by staplemaniac on Feb 23, 2010 2:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    If you value them as worth the money it's worth it.

    Let’s say you think it takes 30 WAR to win the league, just as an easy example (this is ignoring several details, but I shouldn’t talk strategy too much, anyway). Now, you have 60 million to spend, so if you spend 2 million per win, you’ve got yourself a team that you think is going to win the league.

    So if a player is being paid 16 million, that’s a lot. But if you think he’s going to be worth 8 wins, then it’s fully justified. You’re not over spending at all. It’s not how much you spend per player, it’s how many wins you get, and if you get those by spending 90% of your payroll on 20% of your roster it’s just as good as getting them by spending 2 million evenly on everyone.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

    And it's probably not too hard for Satchel to put hismelf in a corner.

    If you don’t overspend on anyone, you’ll get the potential production you want without going over budget. As long as you always make sure you have at least enough money to fill out your roster with league-minimum dudes.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

    I'm just taking some guys that I have a lot confidence in

    I think that Greinke is a solid bet to put in a 5-6 WAR season, and I wouldn’t be shocked to get similar production from Pedroia. They’re established guys that haven’t had injury problems recently.

    Obviously after spending $11M, it’s probably time to start looking at some cheaper guys to fill out other positions, but I’m still fairly happy to have two guys that I see as pretty good bets to be top level producers.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

    I’m glad I went for Kershaw when I did it looks like we’re in the midst of a run on pitching

    by Jeff Reese on Feb 22, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

    I hadn't thought about him until about two seconds ago. . .

    . . . when I was looking for a guy to put at the bottom of my board. I considered putting him higher because of how cheap he is, but before doing that, decided to poke my head in and see if Sky had picked. . .

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 22, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

    And bam, that happened.

    I actually wrote his name down on my post at my pick, but couldn’t pull the trigger. I think Beckham’s production will be similar, and positional flexibility is a little nice.

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    by SFiercex4 on Feb 22, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    His salary is down on the sheet as 5.767

    I’m not sure what I’m missing on Cots that makes it higher that I’m missing, if someone could explain.

    (I want him either way, btw, just want to be clear.)

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    by philkid3 on Feb 22, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

    Looks to me like it should be 5.618

    5.6 plus the 1 million dollar signing bonus spread over the six guaranteed years of the contract.

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    by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 23, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

    Viktor

    has some serious blue chips. Stellar squad so far.

    by habetw4 on Feb 23, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

    Yeah, check the draft thread each morning at 9am ;)

    Or email the person after you a short list the night before (if they’re ok with that.)

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    by Sky Kalkman on Feb 23, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

    Or at least 10:59.

    Get some extra sleep but still get in in time to hit you window. :D

    Or, if you’re on the west coast, 7:59. Like I did this morning.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

    had you picked him instead of Hernandez I would have been super pissed

    It’s interesting to see the different strategies in play in the draft. Since you don’t know which players and which salaries are going to fall to you, you have to be prepared to lose out if there’s no money left towards the end. I’m also looking at position scarcity, which I think is real. I mean, you have to field 2 catchers, but how many catchers are there who are going to be of high value (in terms of WAR)? This is really fascinating to see, and it’s great because you don’t know what strategy will work out the best.

    by staplemaniac on Feb 23, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

    But because you're limited in terms of total PAs, your second catcher doesn't have to get much playing time.

    For nine offensive positions and 6250 PAs, that’s about 700 PAs per position. But you’ve got 13 players to fill up those 9 full time spots.

    You could go for 9 full time guys and 4 scrubs, 13 500 PA guys, or something in between.

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    by Sky Kalkman on Feb 23, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

    I'm fully prepared to have multiple replacement-level players at a position.

    As long as I’m getting production elsewhere. If I have four 4 win outfielders, I make up for having a poor catcher by having a good fourth outfielder. Since the PA limit isn’t specific to position, it doesn’t really matted.

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    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

    I think the position scarcity works the opposite way here

    since there are only a few 1B who hit well enough to put them into top territory WAR wise to overcome their positional adjustments, the best first basemen are more valuable in my opinion. Likewise, you can get any catcher that will start a lot and be guaranteed they get a large adjustment boost.

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    by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 23, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    I was thinking about Johnson and Hernandez

    when I took Greinke. In the end, I decided that it was worth spending the extra cash to get Greinke. I’m a tad worried about how JJ will hold up next season after jumping from 116 innings, mostly in the majors, in 2008 to 209 ML innings in 2009.

    Felix was a nice pick at 3.03

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

    I had a really hard time

    choosing between Jones, Gutierrez and Ellsbury. In the end, I thought that Jones’ upside was superior than that of the latter two, and it’s really tough to gauge what kind of UZR Jacoby is going to put up next season.

    I’m hoping that Jones makes the offensive strides that CHONE projects him to make, considering they project him for a .366 wOBA and an ISO over the .200 mark.

    I was really hoping that McCutchen or Choo might fall, but I’m pretty satisfied with Jones.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

    I didn't delve into too much did I?

    I can’t imagine that I’m the only one who had a funny look on his face when seeing that Ellsbury posted a +16.8 UZR/150 in 2008, then a -18.3 UZR/150 in 2009. The 35 run swing in defensive value is hard to miss.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

    And if that's a no-go, then just tell me.

    I’m relatively new to this whole fantasy draft thing, at least in actually participating. I guess I was just waiting for a league to come along that didn’t go by HR, RBI, hits, runs and steals.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

    Mark Reynolds, 1b/3b

    460K

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 23, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

    3.07

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 23, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

    He was another guy I was grappling with

    I just wonder if he has much more upside than the 3.9 WAR season he had in 2009, especially with essentially the worst contact rate in the game among respectable MLB players.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    Nice, Soto's been taken so now I can talk about him.

    I was really hoping he’d still be around when my next pick came up, and being a Chicago fan didn’t hurt either. I think that 2009 was pretty unlucky for him.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

    Last year, catcher was one of the last positions I filled.

    I had two rookies who didn’t even play full seasons. Fun times.

    Not that I was expecting either to be any good, but if it were an actual baseball team, that would have been pretty sucky.

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    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

    It really seems to be one of the positions

    with the fewest elite-level performers. Not that that is particularly surprising given the difficulty of the position and the toll that it takes physically.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

    Yet another top guy on my board taken.

    I was really hoping he’d fall to me. Both because I figured him by a large margin the best player I could still afford and because of the whole favorite player in the league thing.

    Sad.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

    I didn't think that he would last much longer

    He seems like a good bet for 4+ wins in 2010. Very good pick.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

    yeah figured it was time for him to go

    nice pick, he does seem like a good bet for $ wins to me too

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 23, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

    Thanks guys

    I think he’s a pretty safe 4 win guy too and has potential for more if his defensive improvement last year was real.

    by Jeff Reese on Feb 23, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

    Absolutely.

    Combine his offensive production from 2008 with his defensive numbers from 2009, and you get a 6.2-6.3 WAR player. Certainly isn’t likely, but it’s an awfully plausible scenario for him to emerge as that type of player.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 23, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

    is that true?

    i remember yesterday when this came up we did wait 4 hours, but it sounded like in prior years if you got skipped once after 2 hours you kept getting skipped…i could be wrong. also…is he even still in at this point? after missing just about 3 full rounds?

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 23, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

    Rules be damned

    I don’t pay attention to such pittances.

    (mostly I just don’t pay attention)

    by staplemaniac on Feb 23, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

    did Johnrrr pick to begin with?

    If not Chiefjamessp can go again.

    I will see if I cna find Johnrrr

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 23, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

    Just wondering

    when does it become a problem that the last person didnt show up yet? It would be pretty tough for them to be competitive with an ‘expansion team’.

    by viktor06 on Feb 23, 2010 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

    Well then.

    I was sitting here talking about a complicated strategy to my girlfriend who barely understood. Went over it for about 30 minutes.

    It revolved around getting Ellsbury. . .

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

    I bet he uses that line on all the girls!

    You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

    by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 23, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

    Rules Question

    Jeff is now on the clock starting at 8:04. Does his clock suspend and he has another 1:04 starting at 9 o’clock tomorrow, or is Satchel Price on the clock tomorrow.

    (Provided, of course, Jeff doesn’t make his pick between now and then, and since hes the person who answers this question, this is obviously just hypothetical.)

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 23, 2010 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

    4.06 Rick Porcello, SP, $1.025 M

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 23, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

    Damn

    I was targeting him, I think he might have a huge year.

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    by Satchel Price on Feb 24, 2010 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    Viktor is

    Don’t you have to get skipped twice before you lose your pick?

    And Philkid, if that’s not the case, I have a meeting. I know who I’m gonna pick when it becomes my turn, I’m only waiting out of deference for Viktor. Please don’t jump me, I’ll pick at 4:10 ish

    by staplemaniac on Feb 24, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

    Viktor was on the clock until 11:05.

    He didn’t make his pick, so all subsequent picks until he makes his pick up are also skipped. So you’re on the clock. Se here and here.

    As far as waiting, what if you take the guy I’m targeting? I can give you 1:10 PST if you can email me the guy you want so I know I’m safe.

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    by philkid3 on Feb 24, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

    Now it's just my inability to tell time

    I need to find a job that doesn’t completely fry my brain.

    by staplemaniac on Feb 24, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

    What do you do?

    Also, I’m not sure you couldn’t tell time, that was in PST. I forget to change my times sometimes.

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    by philkid3 on Feb 24, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

    Next year, or even just the rest of the draft...

    Is there any way we can change to fixed draft slots, or even just a quicker live draft on the weekend?

    I might be in the minority, but constantly checking the site to see if your turn is tough!

    by WeNeedDavidJustice on Feb 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

    the pipe dream

    might be a setup like this but with email/text notification of your turn and the start of the two hours? i am very fortunate and don’t have a 9-5, but can imagine how hard this might be with a real job.

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 24, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

    Either way

    Since it was labeled round 1-5 might as well keep it till we get through 5.11. I also think johnrr needs to just be removed from the draft board, and we’ll have to have a 11/60 MM draft. Unless he picks before round 5 ends, he’s just slowing up the process. Even if he does join at that point, his team will be so crippled from missing picks 1-5 that he won’t have a good shot at competing, right?

    by staplemaniac on Feb 24, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

    Johrr is gone in my opinion - I can just change the title if it is more rounds.

    Last time there was problems with people loading all the responses.

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 24, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

    word.

    good point. if its hard for people to lead, it should probaby be changed

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 24, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

    Jeff:

    I sent Julio Borbon to you at .33, but it should be .525. Not sure what happened, but I just now noticed it.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 24, 2010 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

    We looked at Borbon and decided he was $400k.

    His $1.5M 2007-2010 contract was paid as $800k signing bonus, so $175k/year base salary. Since that is below league min, we kicked it up to $400k.

    by RedRobot8 on Feb 24, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

    5.07 Kevin Slowey, SP

    0.48 M

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 24, 2010 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

    nooooooo!

    i had started hoping he might fall all the down to me…shoulda known better. good choice.

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 24, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

    Thanks

    I kept going back and forth between Stewart and another guy. I’m hoping he can make it back to me

    by Jeff Reese on Feb 24, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

    The other way to look at it...

    Is that it snaked for the first four rounds and then re-started at round 5

    by WeNeedDavidJustice on Feb 24, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

    From the Greinke discussion thread:
    Round One: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12
    Round Two: 12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
    Round Three: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12
    Round Four: 12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
    Round Five: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12
    Round 6-25: 12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 24, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

    we are awaiting clarification, right?

    just wanna make sure people aren’t expecting me to pick again.

    by chiefjamesp on Feb 24, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

    If I had gotten Ellsbury, I would have taken Mauer with the next pick.

    I spent a long time thinking about it and decided Ellsbury’s value was so great that he plus any of a dozen other players worth taking would allow me to afford Mauer. So I decided if I got Tacoby I could go ahead and then take Mauer and get back under budget with my 6th round pick.

    The minute I decided to do that, Ellsbury was taken. Oh well. I followed a similar plan, but took Haren, instead.

    And That Happened: Sports with a Hint of Sarcasm

    by philkid3 on Feb 24, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

    6.05 Nyjer Morgan, OF $.412mm

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 25, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

    Sorry for holding it up.

    Too much on to do list.

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    by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 25, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

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