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Pitchf/x Thoughts: Joba Chamberlain

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*Administrative Note:  This is going to be a weekly or so column on Fridays about PitchF/X odds and ends.  I'd like to have a name for the column, but I can't think of a good one.  "PitchF/X Thoughts" is the placeholder name...please give me suggestions in the comments.  

It's a common thought that pitcher performance changes when they switch roles from Starter to Reliever, and vice versa.  The thought is that the velocity of a pitcher's pitches goes up as a reliever (as he doesn't need to conserve energy as he might as a starter) and that a reliever thus doesn't need to use as many pitches as a starter. 

With the New York Yankees, this idea is observable and testable in the form of Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain.  Both pitchers were known as starters in the minors, and very promising ones at that.  Yet Both have spent at least a season as a reliever and a season as a starter, so I thought  it'd be interesting to look how the role they played on the Yankees affected their stuff.  

In this article, I'm gonna look at Joba in particular (Hughes will be discussed next week).

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Joba Chamberlain:

 

Year Pitch type Reliever or Starter? Number thrown Pitch Velocity (MPH) Horizontal Spin Deflection (inches) Vertical Spin Deflection (inches)
2008 Change-Up Reliever 4* 81.43* -12.53* +7.12*
2008 Change-Up Starter 13* 81.80* -8.72* +4.80*
2009 Change-Up Starter 123 82.24 -9.20 +5.43
2010 Change-Up Reliever 2* 87.5* -9.70* +7.51*
2008 Curve Reliever 24 77.35 +4.41 -7.89
2008 Curve Starter 99 76.84 +4.92 -7.04
2009 Curve Starter 235 77.39 +5.41 -5.72
2010 Curve Reliever 88 80.39 +5.00 -5.44
2008 Fastball Reliever 389 95.31 -3.89 +10.48
2008 Fastball Starter 715 95.11 -4.72 +9.70
2009 Fastball Starter 1729 92.48 -4.24 +9.89
2010 Fastball Reliever 756 94.63 -3.95 +9.96
2008 Slider Reliever 151 85.00 +1.50 -0.92
2008 Slider Starter 290 85.11 +0.69 -1.49
2009 Slider Starter 612 84.46 +1.91 -0.41
2010 Slider Reliever 308 87.19 +1.72 +0.96

Table 1:  The Movement and Velocity of the pitches of Joba Chamberlain over the last three years as a reliever and as a starter.  Results as a reliever are highlighted in light blue. 
To Read:
Horizontal Spin Deflection:  The amount in inches that the pitch breaks horizontally due to the spin of the ball.  A Positive Horizontal Spin Deflection means that the pitch goes in on Left-Handed Batters (LHBs) while a Negative Horizontal Spin Deflection means that the pitch goes in on Right-Handed Batters.
Vertical Spin Deflection: 
The amount of inches the ball drops/"rises" as compared to how we would expect gravity to make a pitch drop.  So a Fastball with 10 inches of Vertical Spin Deflection "RISES" 10 inches more than it should if gravity was the only force acting on it and a curveball with -10 inches of Vertical Spin Deflection drops 10 inches more than a pitch thrown that is just acted on by gravity.
NOTE:  Table Cells marked with asterisks (*s) shouldn't be taken too seriously due to small sample size.

A couple things are notice-able from this chart:  First, as a starter, Joba relies upon 4 different pitches: A Curve Ball, a Change-Up, A Slider, and a Fastball.  As a reliever, the change-up disappears completely and Joba is a 3 pitch pitcher. 

Second, there does seem to be some velocity difference in his pitches as a reliever compared to a starter....in 2010 as a reliever, all of his pitches appear to be moving faster than they did in previous years as a starter.  In particular, Joba's fastball velocity decreased in 2009 but has picked up again in 2010 now that he's back to being a reliever.  It is important to note however that the biggest increase in velocity for all of his pitches came this year as a reliever.  Thus it's possible the velocity increase is due to him being stronger for this season rather than a conversion of role. 

So do Joba's pitches obtain different results as a reliever compared to as a starter?

Well obviously one result that changes is the loss of Joba's change-up.  Joba as a starter throws the change-up as his fourth pitch against left-handed batters (7.6% of the time) and the pitch is about average for a change-up at getting swinging strikes, just below average at obtaining ground balls, and is definitely below average at landing in a wide strike zone (For an out pitch, that's not necessarily a bad thing, of course).  Thus while it's not a bad weapon to have, and probably not a bad pitch, it's not one which couldn't be replaced if Joba's other pitches could handle the slack.  

 

Against Left-Handed Batters, that slack is picked up mainly by increased fastball use.  The results of this pitch are seen below:

Year Pitch Type Batter Handedness Starter or Reliever # Thrown Whiff Rate Swing Rate Sw Strike Rate In-Wide-Zone % GB% RV100 RVe100
2008 Fastball L Reliever 212 4.11% 34.43% 1.42% 54.25% 73.53% -1.7075 -1.6218
2008 Fastball L Starter 390 7.53% 37.44% 2.82% 62.56% 42.37% -0.2941 0.0362
2009 Fastball L Starter 999 5.75% 34.83% 2.00% 58.06% 44.94% 0.3447 0.1264
2010 Fastball L Reliever 395 11.27% 35.95% 4.05% 57.97% 50.79% -1.0059 -0.7319
2008 Fastball R Reliever 177 26.44% 49.15% 12.99% 64.97% 58.06% -3.2066 -2.1018
2008 Fastball R Starter 325 18.99% 48.62% 9.23% 69.85% 30.91% -1.2283 0.1777
2009 Fastball R Starter 730 11.94% 42.47% 5.07% 65.62% 40.58% 1.4833 0.3895
2010 Fastball R Reliever 361 13.23% 52.35% 6.93% 77.29% 41.67% -0.664 -0.7783

Table 2:  The Results of Joba's Fastball over the last 3 years
Whiff rate = Swinging strikes/swings
Swing rate = Swings/total pitches
Swinging strike rate = Swinging strikes/total pitches
In Wide Zone percentage = Percentage of pitches located within a wide (two foot) strike zone
RV100 = Run value per 100 pitches (A measure of pitch effectiveness).  Negative Values are GOOD for pitchers, while positive values are BAD
RVe100 = Expected run value per 100 pitches (A measure of pitch effectiveness, controlling for luck on certain batted ball types.)

The Results of Joba's fastball use are very odd to say the least and are especially inconsistent.  Against Left-Handed Batters, as a reliever or a starter, Joba's fastball is terrible at getting swinging strikes (though the result in 2010 is merely below average, rather than terrible completely, so that's looking up).  As a reliever however, Joba seems to be able to get ground balls with the pitch, something he's not particularly good at as a starter.  The end result was that in 2010, this pitch was a positive because of the fact that it got a decent amount of ground balls and was no longer completely horrible at missing bats.

Against Right-Handed Batters, the pitch is more normal. In fact in 2008, the pitch was above average at missing bats (Swinging Strikes) by a good bit as a reliever (where it was really really good) AND as a starter.  In 2009 and 2010 on the other hand, the pitch has fallen back to average at missing bats.

However, there is one dramatic change shown this year by Joba with his fastball: It's ability to hit the strike zone. Against Right-Handed bats this year,  the pitch is in the strike zone over 77% of the time, resulting in roughly 25% fewer balls.  Meanwhile, despite this, batters are putting the ball in play against Joba at roughly the same rate as before (The real change is that the number of balls that batters are fouling off has increased).  The end result is that Joba's fastball is much more successful than last year against Right-Handed Batters this year and was a positive this year, whereas it was a negative (worse than average) pitch last year.

But are these changes in the results of the fastball this year clearly linked to Joba being a reliever?  Well, I would guess the improved ground ball rate against Left-Handed Batters is indeed such, but I'm not sure how being a reliever has improved the fastball against right-handed batters...since the main change was his in-zone rate, and that rate was never this high when he was previously a reliever).

Joba's Other Two Pitches:

Joba has two other pitches, a slider and a curve ball.  The Curve-ball is not particularly good, while the slider is amazing, though unlucky this year.  However, there really isn't much of an discernible effect of the role of Joba on the results of these pitches.  Being a reliever or a starter doesn't seem to affect these pitches much at all.

 

CONCLUSION:

Joba Chamberlain has clearly had more success as a reliever this year than he did as a starter last year.  But well, it's hard to see why the role change has really been the driving force behind his better performance this year (bad-luck notwithstanding).  The main pitch that has changed has been his fastball, which as a reliever is better at getting ground balls from left-handed batters.  But It's hard to see why the fastball's improved accuracy against right-handed batters would be caused by the change in role, especially as that improved accuracy was non-existent when Joba was a reliever in 2008.  In fact, while the fastball was great in 2008 when Joba was a reliever, that was because of completely different results (That was caused by a much better ability to get swinging strikes against right-handed batters and a super high ground ball rate against left-handed batters). So the fact that in 08 and 2010 as a reliever, Joba was a clearly better pitcher seems almost more coincidental than anything.

It should be interesting to watch Joba next year, to see if his fastball results in 2010 can continue next year.  He has managed to get increased velocity on the pitch in 2010 as a reliever...but it's not clear that this is the reason for his improved results. 

 

Next Week:  I'll take a look at Phil Hughes. 

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Great article

I think your point about conditioning and preparation is a good one. It’s the kind of thing that happens away from the field that has a huge affect on the box score.

I’ve never liked the argument that Joba has the ‘mentality’ of a reliever, but it’s possible that something about the way he works and takes care of himself (or doesn’t) helps make him a more effective reliever.

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by jscape2000 on Nov 5, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Well done

I just wish he would come into camp as a starter this year.

by Lucas Apostoleris on Nov 5, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, by the way, what were your RV/100 and RVe/100 numbers for the slider this year?

I got -0.87 for the run value and -2.73 for the expected run value (no park adjustments for the expected values).

by Lucas Apostoleris on Nov 5, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I got -0.94 for the RV/100 and -2.83 for the RVe/100

Soooo pretty much a match.

(I don’t park adjust either.)

by garik16 on Nov 5, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is nice work.

One thing I’d suggest is that when comparing pitch movement from one set of data to another (in this case, starter to reliever), it’d be interesting to see not just the averages, but also the standard deviations for velocity, vertical movement, and horizontal movement.

by danmerqury on Nov 5, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

There's no difference basically between the standard deviations for velocity and the two types of movement.

Now mind you, a lot of the standard deviation that I get when I look this up is due to stadium calibration differences (thus 2008, when the Yankee Stadium calibration was screwed up, has large deviations for both roles), so if there was any difference (and it’d probably be small) it’s being covered up by the noise.

by garik16 on Nov 5, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which,

was the radar ever corrected at Kauffman? Or were KC’s somewhat average pitchers really running up to 101+?

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 5, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a question for Mike Fast rather than me

He does the calibration checks on what guns are running hot and all.

But the gun wasn’t quite THAT hot (I think it was 1.1MPH according to Mike Fast in a THT Live article)

by garik16 on Nov 5, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, the cameras there were never re-calibrated properly.

The average for the 2010 season was around +0.9 mph.

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by Mike Fast on Nov 5, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work!

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by Jeterian 2 on Nov 5, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like improved (but still relatively poor) command

combined with the return of lost velocity to produce his 2010 season. I know it sounds redundant, but the fact is Joba likely won’t be able to sustain 95 in the rotation like he did in 2008, and will be stuck in the bullpen as a result. Joba got injured in 2008, and when he came back as a reliever his fastball was considerably deflated compared to his bullpen appearances the start of the year (from a 96-98 AVERAGE to 93-95 and a complete loss of his top end heat). It carried over to 2009 as well, as his max velocity was effectively identical with the only drop being average velocity. Even in 2010 Joba still hasn’t regained all the heat he lost from the injury, he could only reach it on the odd occasion and he would never sustain it like he used to.

When Joba attacked hitters with his hard heat pre-injury, he wasn’t afraid to throw strikes. Cue the injury, and a common theme in his 2009 starts were lots and lots of fastballs away from lefties and outside the zone, or right down the middle trying to prevent ball four. Basically he nibbled and suffered as a result, whether it was by walking everyone or throwing meatballs in 3-0 and 3-1 counts; with the latter a 92 mph mistake will get whacked every time, whereas a 96 tends to miss bats on occasion. Needless to say, he wasn’t all that afraid this year, and the mistakes didn’t get drilled .

by Opisgod on Nov 6, 2010 2:15 AM EDT reply actions  

The data you have provided is pretty impressive coz it gave me a chance to analyze each team’s improvements and how the future is gonna be! It was one heck of a match, something that we are not destined to see very often. It is always a great feeling when we can see some good matches, dunno why though..

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by dominiquecraddock on Nov 6, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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