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Statistician Magician's 2010 NL Cy Young ballot


1) Roy Halladay

2) Josh Johnson

3) Adam Wainwright

4) Ubaldo Jimenez

5) Tim Lincecum

There is no doubt that Halladay was the best pitcher in the NL.  But rate-wise, Josh Johnson was actually more impressive.  Add-in the 250 innings, Halladay passes Johnson though, due to only 183 innings pitched by the Marlins right-hander.  Halladay has a case for MVP (picked him 3rd).  And if he is the most valuable pitcher, then he is also the Cy Young winner.  That, I know.  

Josh Johnson was awesome in his own right, however.  183 innings could have earned him the Cy Young (well, the Statistician Magician's "Hypothetical Cy Young").  But Halladay was simply better, based on throwing 67 additional innings.  I have no problem giving a Cy Young award to a pitcher who throws 183 innings -- or an MVP for that matter -- but they simply have to have the most total value.  183 innings pitched, with the rate numbers of Pedro Martinez circa 1999, well, that could have been good enough.  Josh Johnson, while great, falls short though.  But he left an impression on the baseball world this year, as no one will be forgetting his name anytime soon.

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Wainwright has a case.  But I decided upon 3rd.  He tossed 235 awesome innings, with a 2.42 ERA and a 2.86 FIP.  Kept the ball on the ground with the best of them, and ultimately posted his 2nd consecutive Cy Young caliber season.  These are the types of seasons that should be tallied up with regards to one's Hall of Fame candidacy and such.  Not simply adding up the inaccurate subjective of past Cy Young voters.  Or using some kind of cut-off on total WAR in a season or something of that nature, would be sufficient as well.  

Everyone's favorite mid-season Cy Young candidate -- Ubaldo Jimenez -- fell short, coming in third.  A low "Batting average on balls in play (Or BABIP, as Bill James likes to call it) helped him some.  But it wasn't so low that we have to question his candidacy.  His .273 BABIP was low, but his peripherals were great nonetheless.  Jimenez struck out well over 8, walked under 4 -- which is still a tad high, even with his strikeout ability.  And he kept the ball in a park, that in the past, hasn't exactly been an easy thing to do.  That is the other thing...he pitched in Colorado.  And while it may be a thing of the past to truly benefit from the thin air, it still might be helping some, while hurting others (Pitchers?).  

I will tell you this; Coming up with the number 5 spot on this ballot, was the most difficult decision I had out of all four of my ballots thus far.  My conclusion: Tim Lincecum.  He led the league in K/9, and that is obviously very important.  Lincecum suffered from a high BABIP; .324.  Which led to a higher ERA than normal -- for him.  But fundamentally, he was still a very, very good pitcher.  Great, even.  The top five on this ballot however, paralleled the top five in fWAR over at Fangraphs.  Something I did not intend to do, and actually do not fell comfortable doing -- since it makes me question my reliance on the metric.  Nevertheless, this was the order.  There are a few other acceptable substitutes for fifth, but again, Lincecum was my choice.  

What matters is Halladay, anything else is just shuffling for 2nd place.  

Poll
NL Cy Young winner?
Josh Johnson
7 votes
Adam Wainwright
22 votes
Ubaldo Jimenez
4 votes
Roy Oswalt
4 votes
Roy Halladay
199 votes
Tim Lincecum
57 votes
Cole Hamels
1 votes
Tim Hudson
6 votes
Other
3 votes

303 votes | Poll has closed

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did Timmy get 3 votes?

He was good this year, but no close to Roy or JJ.

by Jeterian 2 on Nov 2, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know

I was wondering the same thing.

by goeaglesxxxix on Nov 2, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll even out. I think.

His latest performance in the Series might be swaying a couple opinions.

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

But still the BBWAA

doesn’t vote based on post season performance.

by Jeterian 2 on Nov 2, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

But I haven’t registered every random voter that visits BtB for the BBWAA.

Yet.

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I read BTB since the start of the 2010 season.

Wasn’t there another owner? Did you take over midway through this year?

by Jeterian 2 on Nov 2, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll make an announcement at some point.

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im guessing its fellow Giants Fans

They seem to have forgotten that someone else can win the award. I know he had a good year, but there were better pitchers.

by sleeknerve on Nov 3, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other

I would also like to know who “other” is.

by goeaglesxxxix on Nov 2, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair,

YOU put him on there.

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant...

That I want to know who they think was worthy, but wasn’t on the list.

by goeaglesxxxix on Nov 2, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is an example of why I should avoid attempting humor.

I’m not very good at it.

:(

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...

I can’t get in people’s heads! :)

by goeaglesxxxix on Nov 2, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow Doc

If Johnson didn’t get hurt and finished strong he would have been my pick, but its gotta be Doc.

I also kind of feel bad for Wainwright. He didn’t win last year because Timmy was in the midst of his 2 year freak show and then this year Doc joined the league.

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by Discofever on Nov 2, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Cool. You guys got the message.

Now —> Check out the sidebar. It lists this story under “recommended fanposts.” See things you like? REC it!

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by Justin Bopp on Nov 2, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This really should be a who's in 2nd place poll.

I’m a Giants fan and even I know Lincecum doesn’t deserve the Cy Young this year. (I’m sure he’ll be fine with a World Series title anyway.) I honestly don’t see any legitimate argument for anyone other than Halladay.

by tarlinian on Nov 3, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Of course it was Halladay

It would have been nice to see the results if Johnson didn’t get hurt though.

It also would have been interesting if Lincecum wasn’t god-awful in August. I see all these guys being in the talk again next year, with a good chance of it being Halladay or Lincecum next year.

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by DrDC on Nov 3, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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