2010 Beyond the Box Score Catcher Defense Rankings
Remember me? No? Yeah... about that... I did mean to post every month during the season... but I was busy, baby, you know I love you, right? Look, here's the full, year-end rankings, just for you and me. Forgive me now?
I won't go over the methodology stuff that you can find in earlier posts (so before complaining about it, check those out), there's a short bit at the end of the post after the full rankings. Quickly qualifications: I don't make any great claim to originality (these are my modified version of what own our JinAZ and and Sean "CHONE" Smith do) or perfection here. I started doing this because it was something I could do in Excel fairly quickly during the season from easily available stats. While these might be somewhat helpful in estimating "true talent" (i.e., making projections), these are the observed estimated value of observed 2010 performances of catchers (in runs above/below average) that are not prorated for playing time, so there is a difference there.
That said, a comparison with the 2010 Fans Scouting Report for catchers shows a decent amount of correlation at a glance, so I do think these are getting at something real, despite previously-discussed limitations. The full rankings and more commentary are after the jump, let's see which catchers in baseball are ranked as providing the most (and least) overall value to their team (I didn't combine multi-team performances) in 2010 in runs above/below average in combined fielding errors (FE), throwing errors (TE), passed balls and wild pitches allowed (PBWP), and caught stealing (CS).
Before that, though, here are a few "honorable mentions" in overall defensive value, presented without comment: Joe Mauer (#11, +4.9 runs), Buster Posey (#12, +4.5), Brian McCann (#15, +3.1), John Buck (#22, +1.5), Brayan Pena (#46, +0.4), Carlos Santana (#65, 0.0), Jason Kendall (#78, -0.8).
Best Overall: In agreement with the Fans Scouting Report, the 2010 BtB catcher defense rankings see the Cardinals' Yadier Molina as the defensively most valuable catcher in baseball at 14.6 runs above average. Even with a .299 wOBA, that makes him a very valuable player. The second-best was a surprise to me: Ivan Rodriguez at +9.6 runs. I'm still not sure that signing really made sense for the Nationals given his age, but he can still bring it behind the plate (if not beside it). Carlos Ruiz was #3 overall at +9.2 runs, and given his good bat (+15 runs according to FanGraphs), this was a monster season for a guy who doesn't get that much national attention.
Worst Overall: Out of the 120 catchers listed here, Mike Napoli was pretty bad at number 113 overall and 5.5 runbelow average, so that might make some sense out of the Angels disillusionment with him, except that in relatively equal playing time, his replacement, alleged defensive stalwart Jeff Mathis, in in a three-way tie for baseball's worst with Ryan Doumit (of course) and Francisco Cervelli at -9.4 runs each. The Yankees had a real defensive machine behind the plate in 2010, with Jorge Posada clocking in at -8.6 runs.
Caught Stealing, the Best: Yadier Molina is (unsurprisingly) the best here at +8.6 runs, I don't know why teams run on him. The Rockies' (now the Jays until [hopefully for them] he turns down arbitration) Miguel Olivo gunned down plenty of runners, too, at +7.1 runs. It will be interesting to see who signs him, given his regression at the plate after a hot start and continued issues with blocking pitches. Cleveland's Lou Marson was a disaster at the plate this season, but he probably isn't really as bad as he looked, and if he really is this good defensively (+5.3 runs in throwing out basestealers, +7.3 overall) he will be a good backup for Carlos Santana, at least.
Caught Stealing, the Worst: No big shocker here, with Ryan Doumit at -8.5 runs. It wouldn't surprise me if he never saw extended time behind the plate again. Second-worst is Victor Martinez at -6 runs; as many have noted, teams looking at him in free agency really do need to consider just how much longer he'll be viable as a catcher when estimating his value. Jorge Posada is not surprise at -5.5 runs, but Kurt Suzuki is at -4.7.
Passed Balls & Wild Pitches, the Best: This is where Carlos Ruiz made his bones in these rankings, at +7.2 runs. Rod Barajas gets lumped in with the Bengie Molina crowd a fair bit, and while that is understandable on one level, a .310 wOBA isn't bad for a catcher, and he is good defensively, at +6.7 runs in blocking pitches. Pudge Rodriguez is usually noted for his throwing arm, but was more impressive at blocking pitches according to these rankings at +5.4 runs.
Passed Balls & Wild Pitches, the Worst: Jeff Mathis, defensive wunderkind, fills out the bottom of the rankings at -5.6 runs. He must call a heck of a game. Passed Ball Legend Miguel Olivo gives most of his value in the running game back in this part of his game at -4.9 runs. Adam Moore had a typical 2010 Mariners performance here at -4.5 runs.
|
Rank |
Name |
Age |
Tm |
PA |
FERuns |
TERuns |
PBWPRns |
CSRuns |
Total |
|
1 |
Yadier Molina |
27 |
STL |
4735 |
0.6 |
1.0 |
4.5 |
8.6 |
14.6 |
|
2 |
Ivan Rodriguez |
38 |
WSN |
3832 |
1.1 |
0.4 |
5.4 |
2.7 |
9.6 |
|
3 |
Carlos Ruiz |
31 |
PHI |
4045 |
0.4 |
0.1 |
7.2 |
1.5 |
9.2 |
|
4 |
Matt Wieters |
24 |
BAL |
4615 |
-0.2 |
1.4 |
4.7 |
2.6 |
8.4 |
|
5 |
Lou Marson |
24 |
CLE |
3158 |
0.1 |
1.0 |
0.9 |
5.3 |
7.3 |
|
6 |
Yorvit Torrealba |
31 |
SDP |
3259 |
0.2 |
1.0 |
4.3 |
0.8 |
6.3 |
|
7 |
Rod Barajas |
34 |
NYM |
2635 |
-1.5 |
1.6 |
6.7 |
-0.6 |
6.1 |
|
8 |
Humberto Quintero |
30 |
HOU |
2801 |
-1.5 |
0.7 |
3.5 |
2.7 |
5.5 |
|
9 |
Henry Blanco |
38 |
NYM |
1528 |
0.4 |
0.9 |
0.0 |
3.8 |
5.1 |
|
10 |
Chris Snyder |
29 |
ARI |
2317 |
0.7 |
0.9 |
3.2 |
0.1 |
4.9 |
|
11 |
Joe Mauer |
27 |
MIN |
3988 |
1.1 |
1.0 |
3.1 |
-0.4 |
4.9 |
|
12 |
Buster Posey |
23 |
SFG |
2735 |
0.0 |
-0.3 |
1.6 |
3.1 |
4.5 |
|
13 |
Ryan Hanigan |
29 |
CIN |
2155 |
0.6 |
-0.6 |
2.7 |
1.8 |
4.5 |
|
14 |
Ronny Paulino |
29 |
FLA |
3190 |
-0.6 |
0.0 |
1.6 |
2.6 |
3.6 |
|
15 |
Brian McCann |
26 |
ATL |
4700 |
-0.9 |
-2.4 |
3.5 |
3.0 |
3.1 |
|
16 |
Ramon Hernandez |
34 |
CIN |
3245 |
0.9 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
1.8 |
2.8 |
|
17 |
Drew Butera |
26 |
MIN |
1662 |
-1.0 |
-0.4 |
0.1 |
3.8 |
2.5 |
|
18 |
Josh Thole |
23 |
NYM |
1973 |
0.6 |
-0.2 |
0.2 |
1.9 |
2.4 |
|
19 |
Geovany Soto |
27 |
CHC |
3712 |
0.3 |
0.8 |
3.1 |
-1.9 |
2.3 |
|
20 |
Jason Varitek |
38 |
BOS |
1171 |
0.3 |
0.7 |
2.1 |
-1.0 |
2.1 |
|
21 |
Erik Kratz |
30 |
PIT |
331 |
0.1 |
0.2 |
0.1 |
1.5 |
1.9 |
|
22 |
John Buck |
29 |
TOR |
4028 |
1.1 |
0.0 |
-0.2 |
0.5 |
1.5 |
|
23 |
Nick Hundley |
26 |
SDP |
2795 |
0.0 |
0.3 |
1.8 |
-0.6 |
1.5 |
|
24 |
Corky Miller |
34 |
CIN |
782 |
0.2 |
0.5 |
0.9 |
-0.2 |
1.4 |
|
25 |
Miguel Olivo |
31 |
COL |
3935 |
1.1 |
-1.9 |
-4.9 |
7.1 |
1.4 |
|
26 |
Jason Castro |
23 |
HOU |
2192 |
0.6 |
0.9 |
-3.9 |
3.8 |
1.4 |
|
27 |
Brian Schneider |
33 |
PHI |
1432 |
0.4 |
-0.1 |
1.4 |
-0.4 |
1.3 |
|
28 |
Wilson Ramos |
22 |
WSN |
547 |
0.2 |
0.3 |
1.3 |
-0.6 |
1.2 |
|
29 |
Alex Avila |
23 |
DET |
3256 |
0.2 |
1.0 |
-3.5 |
3.5 |
1.2 |
|
30 |
Carlos Maldonado |
31 |
WSN |
116 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
1.0 |
1.1 |
|
31 |
Ramon Castro |
34 |
CHW |
1204 |
-0.4 |
0.7 |
1.6 |
-0.9 |
1.0 |
|
32 |
J. P. Arencibia |
24 |
TOR |
267 |
0.1 |
0.2 |
0.2 |
0.5 |
1.0 |
|
33 |
Luke Carlin |
29 |
CLE |
157 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
0.5 |
0.4 |
1.0 |
|
34 |
David Ross |
33 |
ATL |
1348 |
0.4 |
-1.1 |
0.9 |
0.8 |
1.0 |
|
35 |
Jason LaRue |
36 |
STL |
688 |
0.2 |
0.4 |
-0.2 |
0.5 |
0.9 |
|
36 |
Jake Fox |
27 |
BAL |
292 |
0.1 |
0.2 |
0.3 |
0.3 |
0.9 |
|
37 |
Chris Gimenez |
27 |
CLE |
739 |
0.2 |
0.0 |
-0.3 |
1.1 |
0.9 |
|
38 |
Dane Sardinha |
31 |
PHI |
350 |
0.1 |
0.2 |
0.5 |
0.1 |
0.8 |
|
39 |
Gerald Laird |
30 |
DET |
2876 |
0.1 |
-0.2 |
-2.4 |
3.3 |
0.8 |
|
40 |
Matt Treanor |
34 |
TEX |
2626 |
-0.8 |
1.1 |
1.9 |
-1.5 |
0.7 |
|
41 |
Jose Morales |
27 |
MIN |
198 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
0.6 |
-0.1 |
0.7 |
|
42 |
J.R. Towles |
26 |
HOU |
509 |
0.1 |
-0.2 |
0.4 |
0.3 |
0.7 |
|
43 |
Brett Hayes |
26 |
FLA |
824 |
0.2 |
0.5 |
-0.6 |
0.6 |
0.6 |
|
44 |
Dioner Navarro |
26 |
TBR |
1349 |
0.4 |
-1.1 |
0.6 |
0.7 |
0.6 |
|
45 |
Jarrod Saltalamacchia |
25 |
BOS |
186 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
0.5 |
-0.2 |
0.5 |
|
46 |
Brayan Pena |
28 |
KCR |
1492 |
-1.1 |
0.4 |
-0.1 |
1.2 |
0.4 |
|
47 |
Brad Davis |
27 |
FLA |
1204 |
0.3 |
-1.2 |
1.0 |
0.2 |
0.4 |
|
48 |
Chris Hatcher |
25 |
FLA |
111 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
-0.2 |
0.5 |
0.4 |
|
49 |
Jose Molina |
35 |
TOR |
1870 |
0.5 |
0.2 |
-4.0 |
3.6 |
0.3 |
|
50 |
Max St. Pierre |
30 |
DET |
66 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.2 |
0.0 |
0.3 |
|
51 |
Welington Castillo |
23 |
CHC |
197 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
-0.5 |
0.5 |
0.2 |
|
52 |
Tyler Flowers |
24 |
CHW |
136 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
-0.2 |
0.2 |
0.2 |
|
53 |
Josh Donaldson |
24 |
OAK |
203 |
0.1 |
-0.4 |
0.0 |
0.4 |
0.1 |
|
54 |
Wil Nieves |
32 |
WSN |
1712 |
0.5 |
-1.4 |
2.5 |
-1.6 |
0.1 |
|
55 |
Rob Johnson |
26 |
SEA |
2158 |
0.6 |
-0.6 |
-2.6 |
2.7 |
0.1 |
|
56 |
Steve Hill |
25 |
STL |
15 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
|
57 |
Brian Esposito |
31 |
HOU |
14 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
|
58 |
Russell Martin |
27 |
LAD |
3385 |
0.2 |
-2.3 |
-0.9 |
3.0 |
0.0 |
|
59 |
Jamie Burke |
38 |
WSN |
7 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
60 |
J. C. Boscan |
30 |
ATL |
4 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
61 |
Chris Stewart |
28 |
SDP |
4 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
62 |
Nick Stavinoha |
28 |
STL |
2 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
63 |
Konrad Schmidt |
25 |
ARI |
74 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
-0.1 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
64 |
Jarrod Saltalamacchia |
25 |
TEX |
37 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
-0.1 |
0.0 |
|
65 |
Carlos Santana |
24 |
CLE |
1460 |
-0.3 |
0.4 |
-1.3 |
1.2 |
0.0 |
|
66 |
Jason Jaramillo |
27 |
PIT |
1008 |
-0.5 |
-0.3 |
0.5 |
0.3 |
0.0 |
|
67 |
Michael McKenry |
25 |
COL |
46 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
-0.1 |
0.0 |
-0.1 |
|
68 |
Bengie Molina |
35 |
TEX |
1876 |
-0.2 |
-0.8 |
0.5 |
0.2 |
-0.3 |
|
69 |
A.J. Ellis |
29 |
LAD |
1323 |
0.4 |
0.3 |
-1.1 |
0.1 |
-0.3 |
|
70 |
Eliezer Alfonzo |
31 |
SEA |
402 |
-1.4 |
0.2 |
0.6 |
0.2 |
-0.3 |
|
71 |
Bobby Wilson |
27 |
LAA |
1117 |
0.3 |
0.2 |
-0.1 |
-0.8 |
-0.4 |
|
72 |
Josh Bard |
32 |
SEA |
1288 |
-1.1 |
0.8 |
0.2 |
-0.3 |
-0.5 |
|
73 |
John Baker |
29 |
FLA |
752 |
0.2 |
-0.5 |
0.5 |
-0.7 |
-0.5 |
|
74 |
Donny Lucy |
27 |
CHW |
190 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
0.0 |
-0.7 |
-0.6 |
|
75 |
Jake Fox |
27 |
OAK |
251 |
-0.7 |
0.2 |
0.2 |
-0.2 |
-0.6 |
|
76 |
Ryan Budde |
30 |
LAA |
121 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
-0.5 |
-0.2 |
-0.6 |
|
77 |
Paul Hoover |
34 |
PHI |
268 |
-0.7 |
-0.3 |
0.0 |
0.3 |
-0.7 |
|
78 |
Jason Kendall |
36 |
KCR |
4495 |
-1.0 |
-2.1 |
1.8 |
0.5 |
-0.8 |
|
79 |
Landon Powell |
28 |
OAK |
1116 |
-0.4 |
-1.7 |
1.9 |
-0.5 |
-0.8 |
|
80 |
Guillermo Quiroz |
28 |
SEA |
81 |
0.0 |
-0.4 |
-0.6 |
0.2 |
-0.8 |
|
81 |
Gustavo Molina |
28 |
BOS |
81 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
-0.6 |
-0.4 |
-1.0 |
|
82 |
Brad Ausmus |
41 |
LAD |
721 |
0.2 |
0.0 |
1.3 |
-2.5 |
-1.0 |
|
83 |
Dusty Brown |
28 |
BOS |
157 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
-0.9 |
-0.2 |
-1.0 |
|
84 |
Hank Conger |
22 |
LAA |
314 |
0.1 |
-1.2 |
0.6 |
-0.5 |
-1.0 |
|
85 |
Bryan Anderson |
23 |
STL |
257 |
0.1 |
-0.3 |
-0.1 |
-0.7 |
-1.1 |
|
86 |
Mike Nickeas |
27 |
NYM |
109 |
0.0 |
-0.4 |
-0.2 |
-0.4 |
-1.1 |
|
87 |
Miguel Montero |
26 |
ARI |
2839 |
0.1 |
1.2 |
-3.4 |
1.0 |
-1.1 |
|
88 |
Gregg Zaun |
39 |
MIL |
1095 |
-0.4 |
0.2 |
-0.1 |
-0.8 |
-1.2 |
|
89 |
Chad Moeller |
35 |
NYY |
163 |
0.0 |
0.1 |
-0.6 |
-0.7 |
-1.2 |
|
90 |
Kevin Cash |
32 |
BOS |
789 |
0.2 |
0.0 |
-0.8 |
-0.7 |
-1.2 |
|
91 |
Wilson Ramos |
22 |
MIN |
258 |
0.1 |
0.2 |
-1.2 |
-0.4 |
-1.3 |
|
92 |
Paul Phillips |
33 |
COL |
232 |
0.1 |
-0.3 |
-1.0 |
-0.1 |
-1.4 |
|
93 |
Taylor Teagarden |
26 |
TEX |
885 |
0.3 |
0.1 |
-1.0 |
-0.7 |
-1.4 |
|
94 |
Koyie Hill |
31 |
CHC |
2389 |
-0.1 |
0.0 |
1.5 |
-2.9 |
-1.5 |
|
95 |
Kelly Shoppach |
30 |
TBR |
1688 |
-0.3 |
0.5 |
-0.6 |
-1.3 |
-1.6 |
|
96 |
Mike Rivera |
33 |
FLA |
136 |
0.0 |
-0.4 |
-0.7 |
-0.6 |
-1.7 |
|
97 |
Luke May |
25 |
KCR |
346 |
0.1 |
0.2 |
-1.5 |
-0.5 |
-1.7 |
|
98 |
Jonathan Lucroy |
24 |
MIL |
2815 |
-1.5 |
0.8 |
-3.2 |
2.0 |
-1.9 |
|
99 |
Mike Redmond |
39 |
CLE |
710 |
0.2 |
0.0 |
0.4 |
-2.6 |
-2.1 |
|
100 |
Matt Pagnozzi |
27 |
STL |
440 |
0.1 |
-0.2 |
-0.7 |
-1.4 |
-2.2 |
|
101 |
Eli Whiteside |
30 |
SFG |
1487 |
0.4 |
-0.1 |
-2.9 |
0.2 |
-2.3 |
|
102 |
A.J. Pierzynski |
33 |
CHW |
4650 |
0.6 |
0.9 |
-0.8 |
-3.0 |
-2.4 |
|
103 |
Bengie Molina |
35 |
SFG |
1937 |
0.5 |
0.7 |
-3.0 |
-0.9 |
-2.7 |
|
104 |
Max Ramirez |
25 |
TEX |
789 |
0.2 |
-0.5 |
-1.0 |
-1.5 |
-2.8 |
|
105 |
Craig Tatum |
27 |
BAL |
1355 |
-0.4 |
-0.1 |
0.1 |
-2.6 |
-3.1 |
|
106 |
Kurt Suzuki |
26 |
OAK |
4441 |
0.5 |
-0.7 |
1.6 |
-4.7 |
-3.2 |
|
107 |
John Jaso |
26 |
TBR |
3066 |
-0.6 |
0.4 |
-1.3 |
-2.0 |
-3.5 |
|
108 |
George Kottaras |
27 |
MIL |
2414 |
-0.1 |
0.0 |
0.7 |
-4.4 |
-3.8 |
|
109 |
John Hester |
26 |
ARI |
1030 |
0.3 |
0.6 |
-4.0 |
-1.6 |
-4.6 |
|
110 |
Kevin Cash |
32 |
HOU |
705 |
0.2 |
0.4 |
-3.0 |
-2.3 |
-4.7 |
|
111 |
Rod Barajas |
34 |
LAD |
712 |
0.2 |
0.4 |
-3.5 |
-1.9 |
-4.7 |
|
112 |
Chris Iannetta |
27 |
COL |
1930 |
-0.2 |
-1.2 |
-1.6 |
-2.1 |
-5.1 |
|
113 |
Mike Napoli |
28 |
LAA |
2329 |
-0.8 |
-0.5 |
-2.9 |
-1.2 |
-5.5 |
|
114 |
Victor Martinez |
31 |
BOS |
3883 |
0.3 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
-6.0 |
-5.7 |
|
115 |
Chris Snyder |
29 |
PIT |
1439 |
-0.3 |
0.9 |
-3.9 |
-2.4 |
-5.7 |
|
116 |
Adam Moore |
26 |
SEA |
2162 |
-1.6 |
0.8 |
-4.5 |
-1.6 |
-7.0 |
|
117 |
Jorge Posada |
38 |
NYY |
2866 |
0.8 |
-1.1 |
-2.7 |
-5.5 |
-8.6 |
|
118 |
Ryan Doumit |
29 |
PIT |
3522 |
0.2 |
0.2 |
-1.4 |
-8.5 |
-9.4 |
|
119 |
Francisco Cervelli |
24 |
NYY |
3073 |
-2.1 |
-2.0 |
-1.3 |
-4.0 |
-9.4 |
|
120 |
Jeff Mathis |
27 |
LAA |
2371 |
-0.1 |
-1.0 |
-5.6 |
-2.8 |
-9.4 |
Here are short explanations of the formulas used.
Stolen Bases/Caught Stealing: A) figure out the league rate for caught stealing; B) separate the catcher caught stealings from pitcher pickoffs; C) total the CSctch +SB to get total stolen base attempts (SBA) and then to total CSctch/total SBA for the lgCS rate; D) use the weight of .63 runs for each caught stealing, which represents the average linear weight of the caught stealing (.44 runs) plus the weight of the stolen base not achieved (.19 runs). Formula for runs above/below average: (CS - (lgCSrate) * SBA) * 0.63.
Wild pitches/passed balls: The league rate = (WPlg + PBlg)/lgPA. The linear weight for each passed ball/wild pitch is 0.28 runs. The formula for each player is ((WP + PB) - (lgWPPBrate * PA)) * -0.28.
Errors: There are two types of errors, throwing errors and fielding errors .There are separate linear weights for throwing errors (-0.48) and fielding errors (-0.75). Throwing errors: (TE - (lgTErate * PA)) * -0.48. Fielding errors: (FE - (lgFErate * PA)) * -0.75.
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22. TOR – John Buck
25. COL – Miguel Olivo
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46. KCR – Brayan Pena
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78. KCR – Jason Kendall
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Yeah, but I'm not counting how much he helped the staff this season
without looking it up, I’m pretty sure Zack Greinke was a 16 WAR pitcher this season
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 10, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah he totally turned him into a good pitcher this year.
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by Justin Bopp on Nov 10, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Man, the gap between Yadi and the next best catcher is Pujolsian
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Hmmm... Pujols is a great player and all
but I don’t think he’s all that behind the plate.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 10, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
pujolsian
Pujolsian – adj. (pu·holes·ee·an) : That which is so dominant over the next-best option it requires its own adjective.
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by Justin Bopp on Nov 10, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vottomatic - adj.
because “Pujolsian” is antiquated.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 10, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing says "antiquation"
than Votto being just slightly better than Pujols in the worst year of Pujols’ career.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 10, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
cant you just let me have this?
from one long-time basement-dweller to another, cant you just let me have this?
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 11, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
I laughed.
But you got Adam Dunn for forever and didn’t do anything with him. The baseball gods are cruel, are they not?
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Seriously?
The Reds went to the playoffs this season. You guys don’t pretend to be excited when your GM manages pulls off a “market value” trade for a #4 pitcher and change. You guys have young players actually contributing now. Your team acquires veteran presence like Scott Rolen, we get Jason Kendall.
Need I continue?
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 11, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
we just got to the playoffs this past season
before that, we had 15 years without making the playoffs and nearly a decade of unmitigated failure. we havent always had Votto and Bruce and Cueto and Chapman and Stubbs. it was usually guys like Paul Wilson and D’Angelo Jimenez and Brandon Larson and hoping Junya can play 100 games. those were dark times, indeed.
i guess it’s just hard for me to fully accept that my team is actually good. being a fan of a bad baseball team has been a big part of my self-definition for so long, it’s a tough transition. not that i would feel sorry for me or anything.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 12, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
I kinda want John Buck in Red Sox uniform a little bit more after this.
Great work, Matt. I love these articles.
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Very cool stuff here. I love seeing the supposed defense-first back-ups that really don't put up good defensive numbers
Guys like Cervelli, Koyie Hill and Bobby Wilson.
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As a Rays fan...
That ranking is depressing.
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WTF were Piniella/Quade thinking give Hill as many starts as they did?
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It isn't that bad
only a few runs below for both Jaso and Shoppach, Jaso is a good enough hitter to make up for it,and Shoppach probably, too, given his small sample (due to injuries) in this miserable season for him.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 10, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well done, Matt.
I was going to update my numbers privately like 2 weeks ago and I forgot to. Totally was planning on stealing your thunder and doing them over at Bless You Boys.
Yadier Molina = beast.
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had his defense drop off just as much as his offense after the trade.
yeah
remember that it’s a small sample, and that when estimating how good he “really” is, you have to take a number of things into account
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 11, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Catcher defense is always fascinating
And do I love Buster Posey. I feel like he could be better at catching baserunners if he didn’t have some of the worst pitchers for holding runners on. I scanned the methodology real quick and didn’t see any mention of that (kind of difficult to quantify really), so this makes me happy.
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