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Ross, don't go back to the Royals, we need you hear.

It has been a tough season to be Royal's fan, but I read a stat today that put me over the edge. It wasn't Miguel Olivo's well documented plate discipline (here and here and here), Zack Greinke's WAR (8.3) being higher than the entire offense (6.0) or that of the bottom 5 players in WAR (>200 AB), the Royals take up 2 of them (Jose Guillen being #1 at -1.9 WAR). Nope none of that fazed me.  My disbelief started by reading baseball-refence.com's Stat of the Day that stated the Royal's production from the clean-up spot is the worst in baseball. No surprise that the worst offense has the worst clean up spot.  This is where it got worse.  Fellow blogger, RoyalRetro, who has a great website of Royal history, took it one step further and found that it is one of the worst batting order positions in baseball period. He has given me his blessing to take his analysis and go a little further.

Star-divide

Let's begin by looking at the rankings of the 270 (9 batting positions * 30 teams) batting positions this season.  The batting positions are ranked according to OPS and here are the low-lights (link to entire list):

  • 256 to 270  - The 9th batting spot for 15 of the 16 NL teams (OPS of 0.431 to 0.543)

  • 255 - 9th spot at Detroit (0.556)

  • 254 -- 7th spot at Seattle (0.566)

  • 253 -- 4th spot at KC (0.573)

  • 252 -- 9th spot at KC (0.574)

  • 250 -- 9th spot at Colorado (0.599)
  • 248 -- 2nd spot at KC (0.600)

  • 176 -- 8th spot at KC (0.721)

The forth spot in the lineup is supposed to be one of the teams 3 best players, but it is the worst of the Royals  Colorado's pitchers in the 9th spot hit better. 

What sort of talented players take up this spot daily for the Royals?  Jose Guillen and Mike Jacobs each batted 49 times in the cleanup spot and the ever dangerous Mark Teahen batting there there 26 times. Recently Guillen and Jacobs took it to a whole new level as they fought over who sucks the most in the cleanup spot (I am not sure what they fought over, but you never know). True to their baseball form, they both swung and missed.

The Royal's let an answer to the cleanup spot slip through their hands this past off-season when they traded Ross Gload and cash for a player to be named later. Since the trade happened on April 1st, fans thought it was a joke. Once it was determined not to be a hoax, there was much rejoicing in Royal's land.The joke ended up on us Royals fans as Ross could have been an improvement to the Royals if he was used instead of Guillen and Jacobs.

I did a lineup analysis of the Royals if Gload, using his 2009 Florida numbers, had batted in the 4th spot.   Also, I swapped that 248th ranked #2 spot (usually Willie Bloomquist) with the 8th spot (usually Miguel Olivo).   I used the lineup calculator at baseballmusings.com to run the estimates.  The runs per game total goes from an estimated 4.25 runs per game (actual season number is 4.10 runs per game) to 4.55 runs per game. Over the course of a season that would be 50 additional runs [162 * (4.554 - 4.248)] or 5 more wins (assuming 10.5 runs will yield one addition win).  It is pretty sad when that just batting Bloomquist 8th and replacing Guillen and Jacobs with Gload in the cleanup spot could lead a team to 5 more wins.  Embarrassing really.

I know I am putting my reputation on the line by bad mouthing the Royals as they will not tolerate criticism. First Rany Jazayerli gets banned for bad mouthing the process. Last week Keith Law was told that he was banned. There has even been rumors of stadium ushers being fired at the stadium who were bad mouthing Hillman withing ear shot of his wife.  I will wait my punishment from Dayton Moore like a man, but I can't take the complete front office ineptitude any more.   I just hope they don't make me go across the parking lot and watch the Chiefs.

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The Royals season has really been killing their fans

It went from being funny to sort of sad for me, an outside observed.

Speaking of sad, it’s sad that your lineup could get better by putting a .262/.336/.386 hitter in the cleanup spot.

Finally, I think that run improvement from the Musings lineup calculator is probably a bit high. I’ve gotten 2 win results by switching the pitcher to eighth, and intuitively that doesn’t make any sense to me (Tango says the improvement is like five runs or something according to his work).

by SFiercex4 on Sep 15, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Something has to be said for the ability of a franchise to repulse

The best baseball writers and minds in the entire nation. Bill James, Rany Jazyrelli, Rob Neyer, Joe Posnanski, et al.

It’s shocking, really.

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"

by Justin Bopp on Sep 15, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve gotten 2 win results by switching the pitcher to eighth, and intuitively that doesn’t make any sense to me

Well the theory I have for why this would make sense is the the normal 8th hitter is much better than the pitcher, and when he’s batting 9th instead of 8th, that means he’s much more likely to get on base in front of the best hitters in the lineup. The increased number of PA’s for the pitcher relative to the normal 8th hitter, and the decrease in production for the 8th spot with the pitcher there may not be as great a loss as the increase you get from moving the normal 8th hitter to be in front of the best part of the lineup.

by Missing Barry on Sep 16, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slight correction

“became”

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"

by Justin Bopp on Sep 15, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were already a disaster

This just had the added bonus of letting us believe that things had changed, when in reality, we’ve come to find out that they may be worse than before.

Pittsburgh may have the most consecutive losing seasons, but over those 17 seasons, the Royals actually have more losses.

by AxDxMx on Sep 15, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never have I longed so much for Michael Tucker

At least Dayton won’t be sickened by this as he has no concept of statistics whatsoever.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 15, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We should start a column here at BtB

called “Alternate Reality: What the [TEAM] Could Have Done Differently”

I nominate the Royals to be the first vict—participant. I nominate Torii Hunter and Adam Dunn for review.

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"

by Justin Bopp on Sep 15, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, Tori HUnter would be the answer

a guy who’s almost as good as David DeJesus at 5/$90. That’d solve things.

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by devil_fingers on Sep 15, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, not a bad idea.

Definitely would be some hindsight 20/20 issues, although many of their choices were slammed at the time they happened, too.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 15, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the issues are still happening

Bloomquist has hit in the 2 hole in 3 of the last 4 games, while Alex Gordon has hit in the 8th spot in 4 of the last 5 games.

Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.

by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Sep 15, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

Could also take the Bavasi-era “what the Mariners should do this off-season” Dave Cameron approach to some teams. If you could take over for one off-season, what quick fixes would you make for 2010 and setting up a team for a long-term improvement?

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 15, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easy, get rid of the owner, GM and skipper

Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.

by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Sep 15, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you guys need to really, really observe the Royals roster for a while.

Hell, I’d take a bag of puke and pat on the ass if it meant we could have a professional team.

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"

by Justin Bopp on Sep 16, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying he's bad

He’s just overpaid. Nobody thought the Angel’s signing was a good idea, and they have a bigger budget to work with than the Royals.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2009 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

READ THAT AGAIN

COLORADO’S PITCHERS IN THE 9TH SPOT HIT BETTER THAN THE ROYALS CLEAN UP HITTERS!

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"

by Justin Bopp on Sep 15, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I do wonder what sort of drunken rant this post might generate from Brett

“Do you know what kind of hitter it takes to hit cleanup in the major leagues?”

(holding up three fingers)

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by devil_fingers on Sep 15, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that too, the Rockies 9th spot is better than the Royals cleanup. That’s crazy. The Rockies must bat their pitchers 8th at times, I would think (or they’ve gotten great PH’ing out of the 9th spot)….there has to be some explanation…

by Missing Barry on Sep 16, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seth Smith has been amazing this year

Hitting 16/30 as a pinch hitter this year.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 16, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andy McPhail is calling

He wants to know what you’ll offer for Melvin Mora.

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 16, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Makes you wonder...

That’s pretty amazing about the cleanup spot, but it makes you wonder how Seattle has scored even fewer with lower OPS than the Royals.

by schmenkman on Sep 16, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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