Graph of the Day: Derek Jeter and Old Yankee Stadium

by Jack Moore on Aug 11, 2009 11:35 AM EDT in Visuals Above Replacement

Derek Jeter's HR totals the last 3 years (2009 excluded): 14, 12, 11. So far, through 45 fewer games than 2008, Jeter already has 12 HRs. Much has been made about the homer-increasing effect of the New Yankee Stadium. Let's take a look at where the 10 HRs Jeter has hit at the new park map out at the House that Ruth Built. Red dots represent balls that would not make it out at Old Yankee Stadium.

Again, there may be some errors due to scaling, but the effects seem pretty obvious. Only three of the 10 homers Jeter has hit at the new stadium would be out without the switch. With this boost in power, Jeter's ISO has risen 23 points from last year's mark. Jeter may be in a park that plays to his strengths as an opposite field hitter, but Jeter's 35, and not much has changed outside of where he's playing. Despite his increased production, it is still questionable whether or not Jeter's career can continue after he can't play SS any more.

Home run data from www.hittrackeronline.com

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Jeter's ISO

Are you assuming the homers that wouldn’t be turn into doubles or outs in the old stadium. From that chart I see one that looks like an out, the one to deep straightaway right. The others look like extra base hits, barring a spectacular catch by an outfielder.

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by RallyMonkey5 on Aug 11, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions

No, I'm not making any assumptions with regards to his ISO.

Last year, it was .107. This year so far it was .130 before last night’s game.

I agree given the type of hitter that Jeter is that most of these balls would probably fall in for hits. Still, even if we assume all 7 fall for doubles, his ISO for this year would be .099. Not a perfect assumption, of course, but that would be much more consistent with his performance last year and his age.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 11, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Good stuff.

I know Jeter loves to go the other way, I just didn’t know it was to such a large degree even on home runs. Reminds me of Mike Stanley and my approach in co-ed softball games.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions

This post seems dirty somehow

Can’t quite put my finger on it…

I think it’s the close conjunction of “coed” and “go the other way”… coupled with Jeter’s, um, promiscuous reputation…

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by PaulThomas on Aug 11, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Graph of the Day request

I heard someone mention Todd Helton as a borderline-HOFer. Anyway to compare him, WAR and otherwise, to other HOFers/average HOFers/average first basemen for his career? Thanks!

by Redsauce on Aug 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions

Found this on Google Images, from:

http://nlcentralstage.blogspot.com/2009/06/todd-helton-hall-of-fame-and-rain.html

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by bdalebs on Aug 11, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Crap.

Trying again:

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by bdalebs on Aug 11, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks!

by Redsauce on Aug 11, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions

On the other side of New York

I think David Wright has hit like eight balls in Citi Field that would’ve been homers in Shea. One’s a man’s ballpark, the other is fit for little league.

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by Evan_S on Aug 11, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions

I saw that cheapie Jeter hit on Saturday

And just shook my head because that would’ve been a long single (well maybe a double) at the park in SF

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

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by baetown415 on Aug 11, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions

That was probably the cheapest home run I've ever seen.

Bottom of the foul pole in right.

by levnclf on Aug 11, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Then you

never have seen a homer to the bottom of the pole in right at fenway

by yankeechaser on Aug 12, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Meh.

You have curve that puppy pretty well for it to be a cheapy, but yeah, there can be a lot of outs turned into XBH or homers at Pesky’s Pole.

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by bdalebs on Aug 12, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I saw a BJ Upton (I think) home run last season at the Trop

It was a line drive down the left field line that just barely got over the fence. It was a better-hit ball than Jeter’s but it still was cheap.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

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by baetown415 on Aug 14, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions

I thought the dimensions stayed the same (fence hieght and such, I am not sure of) so WTF?

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by say hey nation on Aug 11, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions

At the points where the dimensions are written on the wall, they're the same

Between them they differ wildly.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Aug 11, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Weird.

I’d heard the same thing.

Also, is there any way to tell how much the wind helped any of these? I know Hit Tracker does it, but do they make that information freely available?

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by bdalebs on Aug 11, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes they do, on every player's page you can see it for each individual home run.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 11, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

So did you graph the "true" landing spots, or the actual ones?

Totally missed the section of each player page that breaks down the effect of wind, temp, and altitude on each homer.

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by bdalebs on Aug 11, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

To add to that, I think right field is something like 8 feet shorter on average.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

What a bunch of crap they sell. Its the same measurements as they original Yankee stadium!!!!

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by say hey nation on Aug 11, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Like the graph

Jeter is having a good season though, the home runs wouldn’t make much of a dfference in his average

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