Retired Hitters Wins Above Replacement Per Team
After posting a fanshot of the WAR for hitters who have had their numbers retired by the Detroit Tigers, Sky noted he'd like something regarding all MLB teams. That's what I've done and have a few graphs handy.
Predictably, the New York Yankees have retired the most hitters among all current Major League franchises with 12. Even as a Tigers fan, it caught me off guard that the Tigers were 2nd with 10 hitters retired. Click all images to enlarge.
More after the jump...
There are six franchises that don't have any hitters retired: Arizona, Colorado, Florida, New York Mets, Seattle, and Texas. However, I did include them on all of these graphs.
This is a graph of the cumulative WAR each group of players gave to their teams. I only included the WAR from the time that particular player played for his team. For instance, the Boston Red Sox only get credit for 37.9 WAR for the 11 seasons of service Carlton Fisk gave the club (3.45 WAR per season). Meanwhile, the Chicago White Sox, who've also retired Fisks' number, only got credit for the 29.6 WAR he supplied them over the course of his 13 years (2.26 WAR per season).
Of course, having the most hitters retired, the Yankees lead the pack with 785.4 cumulative WAR from their 12 retirees. The team with the worst WAR per Retired Hitters is the Tampa Bay Rays. That's misleading though, as they've only retired Wade Boggs' number after only two seasons in Tampa where he put up 0.4 WAR total. The Anaheim Angels are the team with the lowest WAR per Retired Hitters, coming in at 14.6 average between its two retirees, Jim Fregosi and Rod Carew (they got Carew's "bad" 7 years. Just 16.4 WAR over that time frame from him).
I've also totaled the number of seasons that each retiree gave for his franchise, which gives me the total WAR per Season for the group of retirees. That is below.
Finally, a graph without the Yankees leading it as they're supplanted by the Oakland A's. This is misleading, though, as Oakland's only retired one hitter's number: Mr. October. Reggie Jackson spent 9 years in Oakland, accumulating 49.7 WAR (5.52 per season). Atlanta was second in WAR per Season for their retired hitters, at 5.07. Their three hitters are Eddie Mathews, Dale Murphy, and a certain Hank Aaron. Mathews was a great player averaging 5.78 WAR in his 17 seasons with the Braves (98.2 WAR total). Murphy... not so much. He averaged just 2.74 in his 18 seasons where he totaled just 44.4 WAR. Hank Aaron, as you know, was sort of good at this baseball thing averaging 6.72 WAR. His 21 seasons in the Atlanta organization netted 141.1 WAR.
The Braves top this list as well -- obviously buoyed by Aaron. They averaged 94.6 WAR per retired hitter. The second highest total goes to San Francisco. The Giants retired Willie Mays (153 WAR, 21 seasons), Mel Ott (109.2 WAR, 22 seasons), Bill Terry (55.3, 14), Orlando Cepeda (28.9, 9), Willie McCovey (60.6, 19) and they've honored John McGraw (1.5, 5) so I included him too. If you don't include him, they averaged 81.4 WAR per retired hitter.
Some of the worst hitters to have their numbers retired (and spent a significant amount of their career there) are:
Joe Carter (Toronto): 5.7 WAR, 7 seasons, 0.81 WAR per season
Frank White (Kansas City): 26.8, 18(!), 1.49
Bill Mazeroski (PIttsburgh): 27.0, 17, 1.59
Willie Horton (Detroit and breaking my dad's heart if he could understand what WAR is): 25.0, 15, 1.67
Harold Baines (White Sox): 36.9, 22, 1.68
-Some notes: San Diego's numbers get dragged down by a dreadful Steve Garvey (1.3 WAR, 5 seasons, 0.26 WAR). Probably a reason that I didn't even realize he played in San Diego in his career.
-Danny Murtagh was not included in the Philadelphia numbers. He didn't play much and was more of a broadcaster. I did the same with some guys who's numbers/jerseys are retired/honored, but spent more of their time managing. Billy Martin fit this description (like the Yankees needed more guys, anyways), as does Hughie Jennings for Detroit.
-Cleveland does not include Bob Lemon. He was a pitcher who had to hit a lot in his career and was, well, a pitcher hitting.
Anyone specific you'd like to know about, I can oblige. This was fun.
All WAR data is courtesy of the great Sean Smith and his wonderful WAR database.
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For the sake of ridiculousness
What would the Giants WAR totals be if they retired Barry Bonds’ number?
by jwiscarson on Jul 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bonds would add in 121.6 WAR over 15 years in San Francisco (8.11 WAR per year average). Instead of the 6 hitters, 408.5 WAR, 90 combined seasons, 4.54 WAR per season, and 58.4 WAR per retired hitter, the Giants new numbers would be:
7 hitters, 530.1 WAR, 105 combined seasons, 5.05 WAR per season and 75.7 WAR per retired hitter.
by Mike Rogers on Jul 9, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you forgot to mention Fisk one time
This is a graph of the cumulative WAR each group of players gave to their teams. I only included the WAR from the time that particular player played for his team. For instance, the Boston Red Sox only get credit for 37.9 WAR for the 11 seasons of service he gave the club (3.45 WAR per season). Meanwhile, the Chicago White Sox, who’ve also retired Fisks’ number, only got credit for the 29.6 WAR he supplied them over the course of his 13 years (2.26 WAR per season).
No antecedent for the bold “he.”
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 9, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that as I read through it just now. I’ll edit it.
by Mike Rogers on Jul 9, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bob lemon was one of the better hitting pitchers of all-time.
He OPSed .674
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by jessef on Jul 9, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is true. However, with the bat, he added in just 8.7 WAR in 15 seasons while on the mound, he was worth 42.4 WAR over those same 15 seasons. I didn’t feel it was fair to include him, but wouldn’t be the end of the world if he was included.
by Mike Rogers on Jul 9, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I understand that
You had said
"he was, well, a pitcher hitting.I just wanted to point that he wasn’t just “a pitcher hitting,” but was actually an excellent hitter in the context of being a pitcher.
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by jessef on Jul 9, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Henderson's going to become the second Atheletic to have his number retired soon.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 9, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would move Oakland from:
1 hitter, 49.7 WAR, 9 seasons, 5.52 WAR per season, 49.7 WAR per hitter.
To:
2 hitters, 125 WAR, 23 seasons, 5.43 WAR per season, 62.5 WAR per hitter.
Rickey Henderson is adding 75.3 WAR in his 14 seasons in Oakland for an average of 5.38 WAR.
by Mike Rogers on Jul 9, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess someone had to retire his number.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 10, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the DRays
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
by trademan56 on Jul 10, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
That was the point – neither the Sox or MFY retired his number, so the Rays had to, I guess.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 10, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya
Thats horrible that neither retired his number
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by trademan56 on Jul 11, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm... he'd deserve to have it retired in Boston if he stayed there longer.
Some great seasons, but he left before he reached the All-Time Great level for a career, plus he went to the MFY, so he kinda screwed himself.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 11, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BPro's WAR:
http://www.baseballprojection.com/war/b/boggw001.htm
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 11, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angels retired numbers
I think Brian Downing’s number 5 would be retired as the team inducted him into their HOF, which would add a lot of WAR to the team total.
This was all set up for an early April game, but the game never happened thanks to the ahole who killed Nick Adenhart. I’m not sure if or when they’ll reschedule the event.
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by RallyMonkey5 on Jul 10, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Never heard that it postponed anything, other than the game that night.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 10, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really, that’s interesting. I did not know that.
by Mike Rogers on Jul 11, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't include Gene Autry's #26 in that, did you?
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by jessef on Jul 13, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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