Graph of the Day: Cy, Walter, Roger, Grover Cleveland, Lefty
by erik on Jul 7, 2009 4:22 PM EDT
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Wins Above Replacement numbers from Rally's Wonderful updated WAR Index. The seasons are sorted from best to worst, left to right. I could have went on and on, including Spahn, Seaver, Feller, Mathewson, etc. Turns out that Cy Young guy does deserve to have an award named after him.
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Mind blowing how great these guys were.
Can you imagine the media coverage if a pitcher had 3 seasons of 10+ WAR within 4 years? Not because of that stat, since the media can’t seem to find any decent stats, but because of the performance that pitcher would be putting on?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 7, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Talk about a different era
In 1893, Cy Young led the NL in K/BB with a ratio of 0.99 … no pitcher struck out more batters than he walked that year.
Young had the league’s lowest BB/9 that year, something he would go on to do in each of the next 14 years (with the lone exception of 1902). Now that’s how you win 511 games.
by psiogen on Jul 7, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird.
Less control over the pitches? Or smaller zone?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 7, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think he wasn't trying to strike ANYONE out
Derosa.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 7, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to get quick outs?
I guess that makes sense if he was pitching 400 innings per year.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 7, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"he was pitching 400 innings per year"
slacker
Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.
by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Jul 7, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 7, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heavier balls
larger strike zones so batters would swing early, no power hitters to speak of
by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 7, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some stuff of interest when talking about this era
1893 – Mound moved from 50 feet to 60 ft 6 inches
1895 – Infield fly rule added, strikes added on foul tips for first time (but not other foul balls)
1898 – First balk rule
1901 – NL calls all fouls strikes
1903 – AL calls all fouls strikes
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by Jack Moore on Jul 7, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What were foul tips and other fouls called before becoming strikes?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 8, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were just nothing.
So that would make things much, much easier for hitters.
But then again, before 1890 it used to take 9 balls for a walk.
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by Jack Moore on Jul 10, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like professional T-ball.
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 10, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you remake this graph
but with an Aging-Curve instead of WAR?
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
by jessef on Jul 8, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What does that mean?
Plot age instead of WAR? (Guess not, that doesn’t make sense).
Do you want to see the WAR data in chronological order, grouped by age and not year?
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 8, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wants that, it wouldn't be that hard to do himself.
The most annoying thing about Xth best graphs is having to reorder the data – unless I’m missing an obvious shortcut.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 8, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do know how to sort in Excel, right?
If you don’t, I’m not sure I want to know that ; )
Just highlight one player’s WAR data at a time and Sort.
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 8, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah.
I use Ppt and Word a lot more.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 9, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, dude, dude.
I demand you use Excel and ask for help. In fact, make a list of simple things you want to do and we can have a tutorial.
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 9, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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