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Daily Box Score 7/18: Maddux, Pujols, Latos

Keep the links coming folks, as I'm always interested to see what readers find. Remember to post them in the comments below.

Today's boxscore focuses on two great players, one player full of potential, and one player that continues to surprise over and over again.

If I really sat down and gave a sober, clear-headed opinion on who the best pitcher of all time was, I might not pick Greg Maddux. But I definitely think it's fun to make the argument. There should be plenty of chances to do that in the near future, as Atlanta retired his #31 jersey last night. The Mad Professor won four straight Cy Young awards (the only ever to do that), and compiled a 2.63 ERA and a 4.77 K/BB in 2526.2 IP with the Bravos. He's also accumulated 18 career Gold Gloves. Rally's WAR database says he's the eighth best pitcher of all time, with 96.8 career WAR.

Talking Chop found a Cubs scouting report on an 18 year-old Maddux. The scout noted his FB had a future potential of 7[0], but added:

Lacks overall control on all pitches [...]

A hard thrower from start to finish...doesn't give in to opposition, regardless of errors, wild pitches, etc.

Funny how prospects mature.

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Albert Pujols is just tearing opposing pitchers apart. With two more (solo) home runs last night, he's at 34 for the season (just three shy of his 2008 season total), and has only two more strikeouts (36) than he does home runs. He's already been intentionally walked 33 times (meaning his K/IBB ratio is just over 1.0). Part of the reason he has so many intentional walks (and perhaps the same reason both home runs last night were of the solo variety) is that the other hitters on the Cardinals aren't nearly of his caliber. Better, many figure, to walk him and let whoever bats behind him do the damage. 

Over at Viva El Birdos, chuckb makes the argument (based on data from The Book) that the Cardinals have fared better after a Pujols IBB than they would have otherwise:

It is just 82 PAs so we really cannot conclude too much from such a small sample. But it’s fair to state that the team has done pretty well and, in fact, better than we should have been expected to perform following a Pujols IBB. While I love to watch him hit as well, I’m going to hope that teams continue to walk him, unless there are runners on 2nd and 3rd w/ 2 out!

C'mon managers. He's on pace for 60 HR. We'd all like to see him top Maris' 61. Can you help us out please?

Top Padres prospect Mat Latos has been tapped to make his major league debut tomorrow afternoon at home against the Rockies. (If you live in the area and aren't planning on going, may I remind you that it's Hot Wheels giveaway night?) Harry told us he averaged 96.4 with his FB in the Futures Game. BPro's Kevin Goldstein was impressed:

Mat Latos might have been the most impressive pitcher out there. His scoreless inning doesn't look especially dominating, but if you were there, you certainly saw dominating, as the Padres' top prospect needed just eight pitches for a one-two-three frame, with his heat sitting in the mid-90s with plenty of sink and downright outstanding location.

The good news for those of us on the East Coast is that the game is scheduled for 1:05 PDT, rather than a late game that would start at 10PM in the East.

"What to do with Garrett Jones?" asks Raise the Jolly Roger. He's already hit seven home runs in just 52 PA since being called up in the wake of the Eric Hinske trade. However, he's 28, not really a prospect, and his .307/.348/.502 line at Triple-A Indianapolis has to be taken with a grain of salt, as this was his fifth season at that level. Not only that, the Bucco's are flush with outfielders (Milledge, McCutchen, Moss, Delwyn Young, as well as G. Hernandez and J. Tabata in the minors).

Even still, seven home runs is a lot, and with a pair last night, he's demanding to be taken seriously (take a look at the video of his second home run, an extra innings walkoff that landed in the drink if you don't believe me). Over at Hardball Cooperative, James Bailey is inspired by his perseverance:

He’s hung tough over the years and is finally reaping some reward for his perseverance. His current pace is impossible to maintain, but it’s nice to see him get his moment in the sun at last after all he did for Rochester the past four years.

Ever looked at the bottom of a player's FanGraphs page and wondered what O-Swing% was really telling you (other than the percentage of the time a player swung at a pitch outside the zone)? If you have, you're bound to find this piece by Mike Silver enlightening. He runs regressions of O-Swing% against various other statistics and gives their correlation. Most interesting:

Batted Balls (r value)

LD %: -0.14743

GB %: 0.064188

FB%: -0.00559

BABIP: -0.10976

Finally, for some light humor, the things minor league teams do for ticket sales! The Brooklyn Cyclones (Mets Single-A affiliate) are celebrating Bellies and Baseball, which honors pregnant women. Festivities include "Water Break" ("Two expectant fathers will try to complete a race with water balloons attached to their bodies. The winner is the one who lasts the longest or finishes the race without his water breaking") and "Naming Rights" ("Any expectant mother who agrees to name her child "Brooklyn" or "Cy" gets free Season Tickets for life"). Cyclones GM Steve Cohen adds:

"If you want to be involved in Bellies & Baseball but you’re not pregnant yet, there’s still time!"

Meanwhile, the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs (Phillies Triple-A affiliate) add their entry to the worst uniforms of all time contest. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. I am speechless.

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It’s tough to be a minor leaguer, poor guys.

BTW, the only accurate report on a young Maddog would’ve read “small build, looks rather pedestrian but will develop into greatest pitcher of his generation, best baseball mind I’ve ever met, seems to have an unnatural love of flatulence”

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 18, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Words can't describe

how badly I want one of those jerseys.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

Good ol' KO

by thecoolest on Jul 18, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Check eBay.

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by bdalebs on Jul 18, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They plan to auction them

presumably at auctions.milb.com — I’d check there in a few days

by Tommy Bennett on Jul 19, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I believe we missed it:

The auction of the IronPigs tuxedo jersey tops from Thursday night’s Ballpark Wedding raised about $7,300 for charity. The four top earners, in no particular order, were Greg Gross, Michael Taylor, Andy Tracy, and Lou Marson.


http://www.mcall.com/sports/all-pigsrain-july18,0,1868434.story

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by bdalebs on Jul 19, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

C’mon managers. He’s on pace for 60 HR. We’d all like to see him top Maris’ 61. Can you help us out please?

I think you are implying that Bonds’ record doesn’t count because he “cheated” AND that Pujols has never (yes, never) taking a controlled substance to increase his performance. I think you are taking a giant leap of faith. Good luck with that.

I thought that internet baseball writers were supposed to be more evolved. Sir, just assume that they are all cheaters; get off your high horse, and enjoy a bunch of chemically-enhanced, overpaid jerks play the game we love.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not picking up any sarcasm...

Of course, I’m horrible at that sort of thing.
Why should we NOT try to clean up baseball? That’s like saying we shouldn’t try to lower crime rates.

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by bdalebs on Jul 18, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not really sure which part you thought was out of line…

I hold two basic truths about the steroid era: 1) We didn’t want to believe any of the rumors were true, and most of them were. 2) Jose Canseco was surprisingly mostly right.

I was under the impression that we went through all of this with Alex Rodriguez. ARod was crowned the “clean” heir to the home run crown, and that crashed and burned (and there was Manny too…). Now Pujols has become the next in line. I have no evidence that he is/was chemically enhanced, but since this is not a US court of law, I am free to pre-judge as I please; instead I choose to not care one way or the other. I love the GAME. I love watching, listening, and reading about it. Steroids hasn’t changed that. Being a Giants fan has shown me that being morally superior about this issue is a lost cause.

In a more perfect world, would I prefer that there were no steroids in baseball? Yes. I just think it is unrealistic. MLB is in a arms race with those who would profit from chemical enhancement. As it is, there isn’t any way to test from HGH, which seems to provide more benefit to players than steroids. Oh, and in a more perfect world, baseball players (those in sports in general) would be less narcissistic and more giving.

As one who consumes internet baseball writing, and generally scoffs at print baseball writing, yes, I do feel that as a whole internet baseball writers are more evolved about this issue. And I won’t back down at the claim that I think Mr. Bennett’s statement is ignorant and unrealistic. Are we going to put footnotes in the record books?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 18, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The part that was out of line was attacking Tommy with the "more evolved" line and telling him to get off his high horse.

From one line of the article you read a lot into the author’s opinion of many steroid-related topics, which may or may not be accurate. Next time, how about asking him to clarify his opinion, or make your points without putting words in someone else’s mouth. Thanks.

Let’s end this part of the discussion here in the comments. Feel free to email me if I’m not clear or you feel I’m wrong.

by Sky Kalkman on Jul 18, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. You make good points. I apologize for getting emotionally involved over it. Sorry Mr. Bennett. By the way, and I should have said this before, the rest of the article was really solid.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jul 19, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. Internet baseball writers are by no means more evolved. I drag my knuckles while I walk and I am proud of it.
2. More people recognize and give significance to the number 61 than the number 73. This may be because of steroid accusations, it may be because it hasn’t sat for as long. No matter the reason, the number 61 carries tremendous meaning.
3. 61 is also the highest milestone Pujols has a reasonable chance of breaking. He has a vanishingly small chance of hitting 73 home runs this year. However, I would in fact enjoy seeing him do that as well.

Additionally, I do not begrudge any individual player for using steroids. While I believe that fact is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, you seem to think it does and therefore I thought I would share it with you.

by Tommy Bennett on Jul 18, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you are taking a giant leap of faith.

There is strong evidence that Bonds, McGuire, Sosa and others were doing steroids. No such evidence exists for Pujols.

Derosa.

by vivaelpujols on Jul 19, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

What’s wrong with faith anyways? Believing that Pujols is clean is no different than expecting him to him to win the game when he’s the last hope for the Cards – even if the chances are stacked against him, some choose to believe he can do it, just like they believe that he’s clean.

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by bdalebs on Jul 19, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

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