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BASEBALLfx Summit Thread


Assuming I can connect I'll live blog as much as I can today.  You can watch the webcast starting around 8:45am PT.

I'll log my updates below the jump....here's the schedule.

I.  PITCHf/x

      8:45-9:05   Marv White   Welcome and Introduction

      9:05-9:25 Dan Brooks    PitchFX: Sounds great, now where do I get it?

      9:25-9:45 Matt Lentzner  PITCHf/x and pitching models

      9:45-10:05 Paul  Robinson   Using PITCHf/x to teach physics

      10:05-10:25 MLBAM

      10:25-10:45 open discussion

      10:45-11:00 break

II.  HITf/x

      11:00-11:20 Greg Moore  Obtaining HITf/x data

      11:20-11:50 Harry Pavlidis  What's that pitch worth?

      11:50-12:20 Peter Jensen   Using HIT/fx to create skill dependent metrics to better predict a player’s true talent

      12:20-13:00 lunch

      13:00-13:30 Dave Allen    Creating contour and ‘heat map’ graphs to display PITCHf/x and HITf/x data

      13:30-14:00 Alan Nathan  Combining HITf/x and landing point data

      14:00-14:30 open discussion

      14:30-14:45 break

III.  The Future:  Beyond PITCHf/x and HITf/x

      14:45-15:15 Greg Rybarczyk Baseball F/X: Architecture for the ultimate virtual gamecast

      15:15-15:30 Matt Thomas  Using photogrammetry to track fielders

      15:30-15:50 Rick Swanson  Reaction over range

      15:50-16:20 Marv White  PITCHfx, HITfx, FIELDfx – BASEBALLfx

      16:20-16:50 open discussion

Star-divide

Update 1 740PT Folks are rolling in. We're going to get hands on with the PITCHf/x systems today, so that should be pretty cool. Lots of folks kicking themselves for missing the game last night, except Max Marchi who has been to every game this week.

Update 2 852PT God, I am so nervous. I finally met Graham, and heisawesomer. (that's Dan Brooks hijacking my computer folks, but, I agree, Graham isawesomer)

Update 3 900PT Wow, if you're in Seattle you can get the data live at the game on your PSP

Update 4 936PT Matt Lentzner introduces us to the Pitching Peanut. Matt's work on arm slots has been HUGE in influencing my pitch classifications. Matt and I hope to begin collaborating (we said that last year, too).

Update 5 1005 PT We need more teachers in this world like Paul, he's great.

Update 6 1036 PT Sky, see how good that headline was?

Update 7 1056 PT Alright, we may be on our way to getting a handle on corrections!

Update 8 1155 PT Cool, learning new stuff .... the idea of a pitcher specific run enviro is important, and not horribly difficult to calculate. ...great, another project :-)

Update 9 127 PT Man, Dave is smart. I need to steal all his R techniques

Update 10 250 PT We're now into the "future" stuff. However, the future is now for some of this stuff. If you're not yet watching the webcast, do it now. I've seen a little of the stuff that's coming up in the next hour or two and it's mind blowing.

Update 11 315 PT OK, suddenly I feel like we haven't moved forward on fielding for 100 years, for real. This Fullerton study was ridiculously ahead of its time.  Link to the article (via Tango's site) http://www.thediamondangle.com/archive/dec02/insidegame.html

Update 12 330 PT Tendu isn't around on the net anymore, but this article at Sun Microsystems has some cool stuff

Update 13 424 PT Greg again well ahead of the curve with the concepts. Marv's talk starts soon, and that has the mind blowing stuff. You may have seen a tease of it in the New York Times recently, but, yea, that was just a tease.

Update 14 434 PT That's it for now, I'll be back after the game

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Need a password to watch the webcast.

by Crashburn Alley on Jul 11, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

oh really?

It hasn’t started yet, but it looks like I can get right in

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 11, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could watch the whole day but my parents are coming

So I think I’ll probably catch the Future section.

Do you know if the sessions are being recorded as well as Webcast?

by Dan Turkenkopf on Jul 11, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got a DVD last year

Not sure if they posted the vids online though

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 11, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shaun said a DVD would be available again this year

I don’t think the videos are available online after the event, though.

by Mike Fast on Jul 11, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will

Matt’s ideas are the hook for automating pitch classification. That and park corrections.

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 11, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

grouping

Grouping pitchers by their “peanuts” and using different neural networks for the resulting groups would be huge

by Ross Paul on Jul 11, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Bat Speed

It would be interesting to see if Peter can calculate the bat speed using the maximum hit speed like he suggested

by Jay Paradise on Jul 11, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

About Run Environments

I think I remember on the book blog talking about whether we wanted to compared it to league average run environment or treat a pitcher as if he is in his own universe.

by TheAnswer1313 on Jul 11, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

We'll be discussing this

at the game after the talks are over. It was a hot topic on the chow line.

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 11, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave

Dave lost me a quarter of the way through it. Maybe it was easier to understand if you were there in person. I would love to see more heat maps, but it looked like a pretty difficult process.

by Jay Paradise on Jul 11, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I asked online if when they planned on having Hit Fx data available and they said discussion in the process and the release date is TBA soon.

I also asked if they planned on implementing the pitch fx/hit fx into minor league stadiums but got no answer. I think it would be extremely important to have them even if its just AAA to be able to evaluate prospects better.

by TheAnswer1313 on Jul 11, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It's all about cost-benefit

Currently, they make the money off this because MLB fans consume it. The base isn’t large enough for MiLB. When the teams want it, that’s when it will happen.

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 11, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll try .... I think I'll be going dark during the game, so I'll file a post-game report, too.

We’ll be playing with the PFX system (not the live one, parallel systems for our use) so I should have a lot of nuggets to share.

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 11, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be kinda neat if they could implement this to more recent data

by TheAnswer1313 on Jul 11, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Tendu

It is the same type of system that is used by Baseball Info Solutions and Inside Edge to track pitching and hitting.

If the Tendu system could take in the f/x data, then I could see it being used as an easy to use tool for the common fan to access f/x data.

by Jay Paradise on Jul 11, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Harry, which talk was this comment about?

“Alright, we may be on our way to getting a handle on corrections!”

I missed everything before lunch, unfortunately. Hopefully someone (or several someones) will post a more detailed review.

by Mike Fast on Jul 11, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

It was impromptu and spread around

Alan, during one of the open discussions, said “Harry, tell us about park issues”.

Sportvision realizes a trip to the Bronx may be in order.

We asked/suggested/insisted we get some type of correction log, so we know what they’ve done so, if needed, we reverse the process for legacy data. Or, even better, get SV/BAM to re-run and re-publish the data with corretions backed into the earlier data. If the cost/benefit balance works out, and shows its worthwhile, they’ll do something like that.

But, as I mentioned at THT recently, even a log of known changes and clean systems going forward would be a huge deal for us analyst types.

I’ll be doing my write-up for THT on Tuesday

by Harry Pavlidis on Jul 12, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

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