New York Yankees @ New York Mets GameThread, Jun 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT

Saber Sunday Game Thread: Yankees at Mets 6/28

by Sky Kalkman on Jun 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT Comment 20 comments

New York Yankees at New York Mets, Jun 28, 2009 8:05 PM EDT

Happy East Coast Bias Night!

We took a break from our Sunday night game threads for the NBA Finals and Fathers Day, but we're back. Count on this being a weekly feature from now until the end of the year. And count on the NY/ESPN Yankees being a part of things a few more times. Tonight's starters could provide a lot of scoring opportunities:

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ZiPS RoS FIP	tERA
2009 - Chien-Ming Wang	Feels like 0-72	10	7	0	0	0	0	31.1	56	40	39	6	15	25	3.98	6.62

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ZiPS RoS FIP	tERA
2009 - Livan Hernandez	dumb	15	14	1	0	0	0	86.2	97	40	39	11	25	48	4.93	4.89

As usual, the comments section is for discussing anything baseball-related from a saber-slanted perspective, whether it's the Yankees-Mets game tonight or not. Game time is 8:05 EDT. Go Pirates!

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King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Jun 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's a Stud

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by Zach Sanders on Jun 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The anti-Royal sbias on this site disgusts me

Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.

by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Jun 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Can the NY media spin this game so both teams lose?

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by Sky Kalkman on Jun 28, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm trying to listen to this game and I'm experiencing physical pain at this point.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 28, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's because of the awesomeness of the Yankees, right?

by Dan Turkenkopf on Jun 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's because

he forgot to turn on the mute buttom and had to listen to Miller / Morgan / Phillips

by RollingWave on Jun 29, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just flipped the game on

Did I miss the extensive Langerhans-Morse trade analysis?

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by devil_fingers on Jun 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's coming after the Morgan-Milledge analysis.

As RJ noted, isn’t Morgan the same dude as Langerhans?

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by Sky Kalkman on Jun 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sort of

Morgan is an underrated player — Langerhans is an underrated SUPERSTAR

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by devil_fingers on Jun 28, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was kind of joking about the east coast bias thing...

But I notice the Rangers-Padres game is going on right now, too, and isn’t on ESPN. At least that game involves a team in first place.

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by Sky Kalkman on Jun 28, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm so used to checking what's on other than local stuff and seeing Yanks or Sox

that I’m passed much reaction. I live in an area where a couple non-baseball stories are a topic of debate as to why ESPN devotes so much time to them. The answer that is given by radio people is that its ratings. The Yankees have the YES network and the Sox have something similar no? I’d assume that even with those big players siphoning off a huge portion of the audience, they still net high ratings, but I don’t know.

by ol Pete on Jun 28, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kind of a slow night on the saber front

huh?

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Jun 28, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

my analysis

David Wright needs to continue to go 0-forever so that way Pandoval takes the NL lead in BA. Maybe that will give him the recognition he deserves because he is AWESOME.

Sorry if that was too complicated, I’ll try to dumb it down later.

by superk1ng on Jun 28, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pitch f/x study project for someone capable (I'm not)

Joe Morgan just said Mariano’s cut fastball is so effective because it moves so much later than every other cutter in the league.

Shouldn’t Pitch f/x show us if that’s true?

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Jun 28, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure if Joe Morgan says it we don't need anything else

BURN

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by devil_fingers on Jun 28, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes David Wright has a high BABIP because he is awesome

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by Kyle Boddy on Jun 29, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pitch f/x assumes every pitch moves in a parabola, or second-degree polynomial function.

Trajectories like that can’t break later (at least if they’re breaking as much) and the laws of physics would support the same claim.

Graham had a great article a few months ago on Mariano’s cutter, showing that he can change the movement on it. It’s not one pitch, but a whole lot of variations on a pitch. Then Harry had to come point out that Yankee stadium pitch f/x has some issues, so it’s probably not quite as cool of a pitch, but still.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/2/27/769395/mariano-s-gonna-cut-you-ev

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by Sky Kalkman on Jun 29, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

KRod v Mariano is rather remarkable

and Mariano comes away with his first career RBI

by ol Pete on Jun 28, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I must say

The Mets have found a way to make 1-5 series look like 0-100 . walk off error on a pop up? Johan getting annihilated? 4 hit and 1 run over 2 games? blowing 3 runs in the first on two plays that weren’t scored errors but really were?

by RollingWave on Jun 29, 2009 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs