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John Lackey threw two pitches in his '09 debut. One behind the back of Kinsler, and one in his ribs.

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St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on May 16, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Threw a pitch behind him and then a pitch in his ribs.

Ump thought that after what Kinsler did to them last night (two home runs) and a nifty play in the first, it was intentional.

by philkid3 on May 16, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

They played 19 games last year

and there were 23 hit batters, 14 by LAA, 9 by TEX.

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by scatterbrian on May 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing I've found is...
Kinsler had robbed Maicer Izturis of a hit in the top of the first inning as the Angels were taking a 1-0 lead against Vicente Padilla. Kinsler has 11 homers and 31 RBIs, leading his team in both power departments, and is batting .318.

Seems harmless. Don’t know what the ump was thinking

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by Zach Sanders on May 16, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Zach Sanders on May 16, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN has a quote from the crew chief:
“When the first pitch of the next game to that hitter is behind him, that’s a red flag,” Tschida said. “We gave [Lackey] the benefit of the doubt because maybe he was a little amped up coming off the DL. When he hit him with the second pitch, that was something else.”

From ESPN.

I was actually at this game, but didn’t realize the first pitch was behind Kinsler. To me, they’re both statement pitches, and considering where the HBP hit Kinsler, it seemed to me that Lackey thought he could bean Kinsler, get a warning out of the umpire, and then continue on his merry way.

by jwiscarson on May 18, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Halo's Heaven offers an explanation:
The Texas Rangers play in the nation’s 4th largest media market and it is obvious that MLB wants to get the ratings going to bring in baseball dollars amidst Footballville. They have the umps completely getting in the way of player’s establishing their game and a first inning ejection of John Lackey was the most obvious indicator that baseball intends to hand a mediocre organization a competitive edge thru treachery in order to more firmly take on the NFL deep in the heart of Texas.

Yup.

by philkid3 on May 16, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, a touch of image fail.

Pitch 1 looks like it is in the ribs.

Pitch 2 appears to be just a bit inside.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 17, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

and they swept the Angels, right?

I’m really thinking of jumping on the Ranger bandwagon. Is there still room?

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by erik on May 21, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Detroit seems to own

the Rangers. Either way, I like the improved defense, the offense is always good and their farm system is stacked.

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by erik on May 21, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh sure, blame the pitcher

If Kinsler hit lefty, we wouldn’t have this fine mess. Those two pitches, in their exact same location, would have been high and away to a southpaw, with a count of 2-0—and no doubt well on its way to an anonymous at-bat.

My Official Position: It was Kinsler’s fault for batting right handed.

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by south-paw on May 21, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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