Pujols WAR compared to the clubhouse leaders.
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Should note that
Mantle, Mays, and Aaron are missing seasons prior to 1955. Looking at their wOBA it would lengthen the end of Mantle’s decline and it actually misses Mays highest season wOBA in ’54.
by JBrew on May 12, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could you give us
the data for average HOF WAR? so we can do our own charts?
by KMils on May 12, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I’d like to be able to know what exactly constitutes the average HOF player in terms of WAR.
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by squid92 on May 12, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can either
use the data that Sky linked below or just plot a line with WAR = 8 – 0.4*Season. You’ll miss the slight curve at the top but its not like the data includes all HOF anyway.
by JBrew on May 13, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needs a line for Mike Jacobs
otherwise recommended
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by devil_fingers on May 12, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does Mantle have the highest WAR season on record?
Maybe I’m naive, just seems insane to be at 13.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 12, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bonds was 13.3 in 2002
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by SleepyCA on May 13, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, his WAR is crazy
I’ll post it later.
by JBrew on May 13, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm Bonds best WAR was 12.8 in 2001
Mantle at 13 would be tops since ’55
by thoran85 on May 13, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to see WAR by year in chronological order too. It seems like that chart might be a little unkind to Pujols in that a disproportionately large part of his career is his early seasons that are probably his worst.
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by Scottsdale on May 12, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Without going back
and coping the data again, I can’t do that since when I sorted their WAR I removed the years.
by JBrew on May 13, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mays and Aaron must have been pretty damn awesome.
by Brendan Scolari on May 13, 2009 2:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Willie Mays is a guy I wish I could have followed during his career.
And maybe it’s just my own perspective, but he doesn’t get quite the publicity he deserves, even today. He might be the best baseball player ever, and probably is the best since retrosheet’s available, if you discount Bonds.
Mays had some seasons at +60 runs above average offensively with +10 to +20 fielding in center field. Jeesh.
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by Sky Kalkman on May 13, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we need to remember to account for Matt Stairs' Mexican League/Japan years
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by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...
I have always thought of Mays as the best player of all time. I think there is an unfair thought that he declined quickly, truth is though that even in decline he was a monster.
by BigJawnMize on May 13, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Albert's avg year of 8.48 WAR is just about what the avg HOFer's best WAR season was
by thoran85 on May 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah we get it
he’s good
St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008
by vivaelpujols on May 15, 2009 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're getting sick of people talking about how good Pujols is, aren't you?
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by Sky Kalkman on May 15, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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