Graph of the Day: Rice vs. Raines
by Sky Kalkman on Mar 17, 2009 11:00 AM EDT
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WAR data from Sean's historical WAR database. It's awesome. Each players' seasons sorted from best to worst, left to right.
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It does lower the bar quite a bit
or was the bar already that low?
by Harry Pavlidis on Mar 17, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOF voters look at legacy more than actual level of play
So Rice was probably an exception.
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by vivaelpujols on Mar 17, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raines was an Expo, therefore never feared.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 17, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Andre Dawson begs to differ
he has received better Hall support than Raines, but then again he was a Cub for a while. However, the Hawk’s best seasons were in Montreal.
by erik on Mar 17, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dawson graph coming up...
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by Sky Kalkman on Mar 17, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yes, I realize this Rice vs. Raines graph is beating a near-dead horse.
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by Sky Kalkman on Mar 17, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That means the horse is still breathing.
Smother it, end its misery.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 17, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a compromise could be reached...
Rice gets to go into the Hall, but Grace gets to give the acceptance speech.
Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?
by Lefti on Mar 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be most excellent.
I’d give 3-1 Grace would sneak a slumpbuster reference into that speech.
by Danno11 on Mar 17, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see Rains vs. Rickey
I suspect Raines didn’t get more support partly because he was on the same ballot as Rickey, who was a similar type of player (with more flash). Raines clearly deserves to be voted in though.
by acerimusdux on Mar 17, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rickey had two 10+ seasons
and fourteen 4+ seasons
by Harry Pavlidis on Mar 17, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a GotD showing Rickey has a good case for the Hall based on splitting his career up into two pieces.
I think Bill James first had that idea.
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by Sky Kalkman on Mar 17, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Raine's 11th best season, measured by WAR
is on par with Rice’s 6th best season? Am I reading this right?
by mattybobo on Mar 18, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You, sir, are correct.
Raines averaged 1.4 more WAR over their best ten seasons. (Same for best 12.)
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on Mar 18, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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