Graph of the Day: Best Non-ARod 3B Seasons Since 2002

by Sky Kalkman on Feb 21, 2009 9:00 AM EST Comment 16 comments

WAR data from Fangraphs.

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I must say

I feel like Beltre exceeded expectations in Seattle. He signed a 6 yr $60 mil deal after that 2004 season. In 3 of his 4 years up there Beltre has put up an .800 OPS and very strong defense. That kind of production is worth more than $10 mil a year

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by MJMars on Feb 21, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

the graphs

Sky, I absolutely love the graphs and was wondering how you made them and if it would be possible to do similar graphs over at VEB. I thought at first it was a google spreadsheet graph but apparently not. Is it something proprietary to BtB? Thanks.

by chuckb on Feb 21, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

It's not hard at all, actually.

I copied all the Fangraphs WAR data into a spreadsheet. Then I created a table where I’d enter the year and player name and the appropriate data would be looked up via VLOOKUP. Then I created a data table from that and asked Chris, who has Excel 2007, to make the graph look pretty. Done. To show the data table below the graph, select “Show data table” on the Data Table tab in step 3 of the chart wizard.

If you’d like me to provide any graphs for Cardinals’ players, just send me an email.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Feb 21, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Pedro Feliz isn’t on here?

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by WalrusMan on Feb 21, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I know you're kidding, but I was curious.

Feliz’s RAR from 2002 through 2008:
4
18
26
27
19
32
15

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by Sky Kalkman on Feb 21, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Surprising..

I would have taken his 2004 year as his best, yet it was his 3rd best year by this. Was his defense just that much worse that year?

Ah probably figured it out. He played a substantial amount of 1B that year I see.

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by WalrusMan on Feb 21, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

POS Values

If they all play the same position (3B), then why does David Wright have a higher POS value than the other three players?

by tgold1 on Feb 21, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm guessing..

Different values for different years.

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by WalrusMan on Feb 21, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He had the most playing time.

You get 2.5 runs per 700 PAs, so he got a small fraction of a run more than the other guys, but enough to round differently.

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by Sky Kalkman on Feb 21, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

DAMN!

I was going to say it’s a rounding thing, like some got 2.48 and he got 2.53 or something.

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by WalrusMan on Feb 21, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't Fangraphs prorate for 600 PAs?

or is that just replacement level?

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by devil_fingers on Feb 21, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure

But I checked people who had close to 700 plate appearances and played solely in that position the entire year. Carlos Beltran was the best match as he had 706 PA and all of his 158 games were in center. However he only had a 2.4 positional adjustment so maybe he DHed a couple of games. Either way I think that Sky is right.

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by vivaelpujols on Feb 22, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs