BoaB: Mark Ellis Division Discussion and Taunting
by Sky Kalkman on Feb 15, 2009 2:49 PM EST
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I strongly disagree, at least regarding myself!
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So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
Questions
I already discussed these with Sky, but it’s good to keep everyone updated:
How much money should we account for if the player is on a minor league contract (and Cot’s has no info)
Example:
Jeff Clement c
2008
* 1 year (2008)
* 1 year (2007)
o contract purchased by Seattle 9/4/07
* signed 7/05
* drafted 2005 (1-3) (USC)
* $3.4M signing bonus
* agent: Casey Close, Brodie Van Wagenen
* ML service: 0.150
How do you want to bonus divided up and such as well?
“The minimum salary is the MLB minimum, so $400K. Cots does a pretty good job of listing when signing bonuses are paid, but if it’s not listed, assume equal distribution over all non-option
years.”
Just to be clear, Clement’s bonus would be 1.13 AAV then?
“Ehh, yeah, there’s probably an exception for draftee signing bonuses.
I’m pretty sure prospects all get it up front, so it wouldn’t count
when they’re called up. I was addressing a FA signing bonus.”
So, draft picks get no bonus allotment, and others are equally divided unless otherwise noted by Cots.
-Zach Sanders
MLB Notebook.com
Actually, Cots seems pretty good about noting payouts over multiple years
I’ve seen many bonuses where Cot’s has noted a payout over 4-5 years. In the case of Clement above, I’d interpret as a $3.4M paid when he signed in 2005. Hence, I’d peg Clement at $400K for our purposes.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 16, 2009 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
ooh ooh
i think i know who i’m drafting
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
WTF -- You all going to start once we have a couple of rounds done.
by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 16, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions
DF is procrastinating...
waiting to pull the trigger on Willie Bloomquist
by Adam Peterson on Feb 16, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
no way
mike jacobs is his man and we all know it
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Future Redbirds / PAH9
it's a tough decision
I’ll be up all night sweating it out…
oh no, I forgot Jose Guillen! Dayton Moore gives a guy so many options with all of his well-thought out contracts. I just hope Kyle Farnsworth is around by the 3rd round. It’s going to be the Bravest Way to Conduct a WAR draft from me.
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 16, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think I know who I want....
… but unfortunately it’s not my turn yet. I just hope Jack Wilson makes it through to me.
oops… did I say that out loud?
so DF times out at 1pm?
…. or do we just automatically assign him Barry Zito if he misses his slot? ;)
I believe the way it works is that at 1, the next person can go.
But DF can make up his pick at any point during the draft.
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Feb 17, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
This is the rule I set up, yes.
If leagues want to lengthen/shorten the time period after the first bunch of rounds, put it to a vote.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
I'm officially taunting devil_fingers for taking so long to make this pick
And d_f, don’t pretend that you’re not taking all of this time tweaking your spreadsheet(s). But the first overall pick is important. If you mess this up, your team is screwed for sure. If I were you, I’d quadruple check those projections again.
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as the owner of the number #2 pick
+1
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
wait, the draft starts today?
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
ok... still looking for my old AD&D stuff
I need a four sided dice to decide between Raul Ibanez, Kyle Farnsworth, Willie Bloomquist, and F-Rod
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Just fyi...
If we all take 4 hours to make our picks, this draft is going to take about 100 days to complete. Even a round a day is 25 days long…
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Feb 17, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions
I am thinking on ours of having a total time bank of 12 hours
If you go over, you have no time to make picks and others can go on.
by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 17, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
sorry, just doing some last minute calculations
I won’t take this long every time, I just had to finish a column for Driveline last night and then had errands to run this morning…
For guys who are pre-arb, I can’t ’find the salaries. What should we assume they are again?
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1.1 times last year's salary
but make sure they’re really pre-arb… if they have 3 real salaries listed then they are probably arbitration.
thanks.... almost there
I just realized that my planned strategy might be dumber than f-ck, but whatever
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
R. J., check your email...
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Taking Upton?
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by R.J. Anderson on Feb 17, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
you should totally "revenge me"
but you better not take Jose Guillen. He’s MINE
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't even tell him to do it
Nice job df
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good pick
I have Upton ranked #2 among hitters, and I’m not convinced that I trust who I have ranked as #1
I went back and forth between him and Evan for the last hour
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
R. J. -- does the shoulder look OK to you?
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Timmah!!!
My top 3, which I spent a lot of time debating, was definitely Timmah, Eva and I wasn’t sure about the 3rd player. I was worried that Eva and Timmah would go 1-2 and I would have to pick from my short list of about 5 guys that could go #3.
crap... now I'm already having my typical buyers remorse about Longoria
Does the draft end at 5 pm?
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
For me, picking a sophomore in the first round would be difficult
I’m somewhat risk averse, so banking on a player with only one season of MLB data to have another very big year would be hard for me. I’m pushing players like that down on my “draft board”.
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 17, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Proven veterans!
Can’t wait to see your roster…
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think Upton is a pretty nifty pick
can’t really go wrong with either.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
Upton's got so much upside
and even if he has another disappointing offensive season he is still a 4 WAR player.
vivaelbeñsheets
by vivaelpujols on Feb 17, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'll start emailing people when they're up.
Provided it’s not myself.
And after each round ends I’ll post an update with budget related info and such.
lots of spending
Wow… lots of spending early on. Curious to see how that plays out given that this is 12 teams compared to the 4 they did on ESPN.
Grady is one of my favorite players so I can’t argue with that pick :)
How are we working OFers?
Since we’re using WAR and there are positional adjustments involved in figuring that, do we need to draft one LF, CF, and RF or are we doing the more standard fantasy thing and just drafting 3 OFers from anywhere?
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Feb 17, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions
Nope, all OF are the same.
It makes a small difference, but not a huge one.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
so no positional adjustment is figured in their war?
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
There's a pos adjustment.
If a guy plays CF, you can expect him to rate about 10 runs worse in UZR, but he’ll also get 10 runs more for a pos adjustment, so it all comes out in the wash where an OF ends up playing. The only thing is that you can show off really good fielders more in CF and hide crappy outfielders more in LF or RF.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
Okay, cool...sounds good.
That’s what I kinda figured, but I just wanted to check.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 17, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Garrr....so close....
We almost finished round 1, dang it. Though I hope people don’t automatically stop drafting after 9 PM EST. I figure if people are paying attention, we can always keep it going, the only difference being that if you’re not paying attention after 9 and it’s your turn, you’re not on the clock until tomorrow morning at 9. But yeah, let’s keep it going as much as we can.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 17, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions
It's a snake draft, right?
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
So I'll be picking again next Thursday
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
im here...
almost done picking my two.. just gotta be sure.
Utley... wow
I was really hoping against hope that his pricetag would scare enough people that I could get him at the end of round 2.
Zola – I really like the Kemp pick. I was stunned that he lasted so long in the ESPN draft.
Count me as against Kemp.
That babip is just too weird.
Space.
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So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
liking the James Shields pick R.J.
didn’t think he’d make it to the next pick, but i had my fingers crossed.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
I had to do a coin flip between him and another player.
Hopefully I’m not going too pitching heavy early on.
by R.J. Anderson on Feb 18, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I had it down to him and Braun
knew I was getting one of them with the next pick.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 18, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
question
Just to make sure: when it’s my turn again, the draft “snakes” again, right, so I have two picks in a row?
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you are correct
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
I'll help
I still have $95M left
Just worry abou those other guys
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Mil remaining (rounded)/user
59.6 Devil Fingers
59.5 Erik
59.6 JFranco77
54.5 Hazel
58.3 SamT
52.4 JHMoore
55.8 Adam Peterson
51 R.J.
52.1 Slowjo
59.1 MLBNotebook
59.1 Todd Zola
48.2 Someguy132
Oh man, I'm overspending already
Mr. Loria’s going to kill me.
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hebrew Hammer
was on my short list of guys to go at #3. so he’s a pretty good steal at 18.
(now that everyone has been picked, the shortlist was 1. eva 2. timmah 3. hamilton or soto or braun or upton…. and soto is actually the guy who is ranked #1 in my spreadsheet which i’m not sure i trust)
Shouldn't we be like a real fantasy league and have team names an logos and all that stuff?
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i call dibs
on the fighting wee willie bloomquists!
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Future Redbirds / PAH9
scratch that
I’ll stick with my sig and call my team the Overrated Faberge’ Eggs
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
i was thrilled to see he was available
and surprised he hasn’t been taken in the Pat Burrell league yet.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
I don't know how to "snake" especially well
that and my first pitcher were tough picks… the other choices were 293847p iquehlfakjsfdh
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Damn....I know who I want this round
But I doubt they’ll last that long. Gr.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 18, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions
Yay Sonny!
I thought for sure someone would snatch him earlier.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hey,
is it possible for me to repick? I was under the gun when i made that pick and I’d like to take someone for less money while they’re still out there.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
I was gonna razz you about taking
K Johnson. I don’t know if I have a vote, but I’d allow 1 mulligan.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
Well i was rushing because instead of working like a good person until i was free i was trying to get it in between work.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
Just decide
We’re going to resent it either way
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
put if you say yes, I would bet $10 that it won't be the last time during the draft this happens
if that’s okay, then fine. I don’t want to be a jerk about it, because Lord knows I’m going to make mistakes…
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
So... are we done for the day?
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If it gets to me
in the next couple hours, I’ll make a pick. Or, more accurately, scotch, scotchity scotch might make a pick.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 18, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
repicks & time slots
I am in favor of allowing this one but we should definitely make a rule that from now on, you’re stuck.
I’m also OK with cutting the pick time down to 2 hours as long as we stick with the clock running 9am-9pm
I think if someone is at work or something, though, they should be able to say if they need the full four
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
OKay... so where do we start tomorrow? I get the first three picks int he morning, right?
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
i'm for making the clock a little later
i know we all have families and stuff, but i’m off and on the computer at night anyway. why not allow picks until 11?
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Future Redbirds / PAH9
and did i really
say “and stuff” PREVIEW
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Future Redbirds / PAH9
It was my understanding was that if it was your turn, you could make a pick at any time
While the 4-hour clock pauses between 9 pm and 9 am, picks can still be made if the person up chooses to make his pick then. And then the next person could make his pick. Theoretically a bunch of picks could be made in the “off hours”. They just don’t have to be made then because the clock has been paused.
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 19, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, exactly.
Picks can continue at night, but they’re just not timed.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, should I just email my friday picks to you, RJ?
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
Email them to Jeff.
I don’t want to be accused of stealing anyone’s picks.
by R.J. Anderson on Feb 19, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Ervin vs Felix
I struggled with this one, ultimately deciding to take Ervin Santana in the 3rd. Both have a $3.8M salary, and I project them within 0.2 WAR of each other. Felix has been consistent the past three years, but Ervin was huge last year…I’m still struggling after the pick and now I can’t take Felix in the 4th to make up for it…
I prefer your santana pick.
It’s got gusto!
Space.
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We just stay in one place.
Felix
I have Felix ahead of Ervin. I just trust his durability and his floor a lot more, and I really don’t see their chances of having a big year as all that different.
+1
I see Felix taking a step forward and Ervin taking a step backward in 2009.
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 19, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
5.2 I take Brandon Backe he is teh gratest Astro of all time Brandon Backe is my da bom!
Oh, wait. I just picked out of order. And on the wrong board!
OH THE HUMILIATION!!!!
I still get to keep Brandon Backe though, right?
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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 6:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
:-|
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Your Astros/LOLcats fantasy baseball league?
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
Well, I LOL'd
apparently devil_fingers didn’t. I usually am the only one who laughs at my jokes, however.
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no, it was deserved
all the guys I wanted to pick got drafted… right before my pick
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure about the Wieters pick at all.
But he’s cheap and the upside — even this year — thrills me.
tough call
there are a lot of catchers out there that i kind of like, but Weiters does have unreal upside… I kid you not, BP has his WAR as 7.9.
Of the last several picks, only two have even been on the list of 10 that I am eyeing
Am I doing something radically wrong?
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
Not necessarily
I think some of those picks were stretches. Some of them are cheap, high upside guys but you really don’t know if they are going to realize that potential in 2009. And I think some of the recent picks are guys I think are a bit overrated by 2008 performance.
But if you’re looking closely at likely 2009 WAR and the dollars they make and trying to strike the right balance, you aren’t going to go far wrong. (ok, so I’m stating the obvious).
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 19, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
My refresh button is going to wear out.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
It would sure be helpful to know
who’s here and who isn’t. Never know when a pick will be made.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry to hold the draft up after it was moving so quickly
Should I pick now or in the morning?
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
Is there a reason you shouldn't pick now?
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
I thought there was some time we quit for the night but
heeeeeeeeeeeere goes
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
right back at ya, slick
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And now, yourself.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
and now devil fingers
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
And someday,
an end to the snark.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
oh, i deserve it
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever you say, Dayton
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 20, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
i'm out of snark
i do feel the pain of having a target snatched away b/f your turn. the ultimate payback would be make us bums wait until the last possible minute to make your picks.
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which is happening.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
So far, I feel pretty good about my picks
Longoria
Granderson
Tulowitzki
Hamels
and $51M left to play with.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
easy for you to say
mr. second pick of his draft
by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 20, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
all of your tulo are belong to us
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Future Redbirds / PAH9
There's no "of"
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I think everyone is going to be solid to 10 picks
After that is when it will get ugly, especially once positions need to get filled and $$ start to become an issue.
by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 20, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
weak
B. J. Upton (.45331, right?)
Volquez .43175
Y. Escobar .44275
K. Slowey .4345
Adam Jones .429
Spent: $2.191310M
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Unless you're planning to spend a crapload on your bench players I really don't understand this strategy.
Sizemore, Markakis, Lee, Jurrjens, Jimenez, and 45M to spend.
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Juuuust a bit outside!!
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I don't fully understand it now, either
hence labeling my own choices “weak”
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
While others are hunting for 3 WAR players, you can afford to go back and get some more expensive 4-5 WAR players who have been avoided.
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 20, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Like Jose Guillen
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Any one that can take out his own ingrown toe nail is has my respect
Now if he could only hit and field
by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 20, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
or Raul Ibanez...
or Vernon Wels
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well I have the best infield
Pedroia
Reyes
Iannetta
Weaver
Zimmerman
11.73 spent
King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president
I'm wishing now that I'd started looking at middle infielders sooner,
but I’m happy with who I have. A little odd, but I have faith.
Wright
Danks
Sonnanstine
Grienke
Kouzmanoff
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and 12.58M spent
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 21, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not going to be around most of today, and I don't even have a pick in mind.
This is going to end quit well.
R.J.
Are we enforcing time limits over the weekend?
by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think we should at this point.
It doesn’t appear that anyone is around anyway.
"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige
by Steve Slowinski on Feb 21, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm here!
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm here as well, and I'm much more able to research and pick on the weekend.
It would be a huge waste not to keep it going now.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
i'm around
and ready to go. i’ll be checking in periodically
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
Well I've got the best OF wrapped up.
Sizemore, Markakis, Rios. Start cowering, douchebags!
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You're definitely taking the OF-SP route...
Yours will likely be the best OF in the league, your success will depend on what’s left at the other positions.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I figure a win is a win, no matter what position it comes from
and there’s a lot of high-win players in the outfield that are relatively cheap, as it happens
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yeah, that's my quasi-strategy, it seems
i suck at this
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
RJ, tell me David Price was a smart decision
Tell me he won’t be pitching at Durham this year. Please….
Maybe I goofed.
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I bet he replaces Niemann in May
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yeah, I can live with it
We’re only allowed 1000 innings and have 6 SP, so it’s probably not as big of a gaffe as I first thought. I have a list of 11 SP I’m interested in, so at least one of them will still be around when I pick again.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
Time Limits and other rules
Let’s move all discussion of the draft time limits and any other rules into this discussion thread.
For the record, here’s my view of things:
1. The initial rules did not specify anything regarding weekend time limits, nor did they make an exception from the 4 hour limit over the weekends.
2. We had a bunch of discussion about reducing the time limit to 2 hours. Did people miss this discussion, because I didn’t hear any objections until now.
In any case, I think R.J. has it right. We should have a majority, and then he will send an email making anything official. The problem is that #1 above is really a rule clarification rather than a change, IMO.
My “votes” are for:
1. A 4 hour time limit from 9-9 on the weekends.
2. Reduce the time limit down to 2 hours on weekdays.
My votes
1. Yes, 4 four limit on weekends
2. Yes, reduce time limit to 2 hrs. on weekdays
Also, I like the idea of having a majority opinion about changes and then emailing everyone about the decision. It sounds fair to me.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
I figured most people would, you know, check the thread at least daily to vote on stuff like this before I sent out an email agreeing to it.
But I guess some people are too busy to do such a thing.
by R.J. Anderson on Feb 22, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I hear you
but to be fair, those who would object to a weekend time limit probably aren’t here on the weekend anyway. I guess.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 22, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, true
And Sunday mornings might be tough if people are heading to church and all. Later on in the day we might get some more input.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Your theism makes you a weak fantasy baseball player!
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
I agree.
I thought we agreed to hold off on the time limit this weekend until I sent out the email.
by R.J. Anderson on Feb 22, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
that's also what i thought
so there shouldn’t be any time limits this weekend, i think
but my votes are for 2 hours 9a-9p during the week and 4 hours 9a-9p on weekends
yeah, no time limit this weekend
We’re almost done with it anyway at this point
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
i can't speak for everyone else
but i don’t find it too difficult to check here and there and see what’s going on and just flow with it. i understand some of the complaints, but i don’t get some of the anger.
it’s also not that hard to come up with a list of a few players you like and email them to someone. i mean, if you are a normal reader of this site and others like it, you should already sort of know who is who on a ball diamond and have things at least somewhat narrowed down to who you want as each round comes up.
2 hours is plenty of time during the week. 4 hours on the weekend sounds right, b/c people do have families and lives.
I’d be for a later start time on Sunday’s b/c I do go to church and don’t usually get home until 1, but i can email my preferences to TucsonRoyal, it’s not a big deal.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
maybe no one is angry
i could be misunderstanding. anyway. communication is good. checking the comments every so often and giving feedback is good too. sorry, didn’t want to come across harsh or anything
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
No I'm with you. People seem totally pissed over what seemed like a near-unanimous consensus.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
You're right...things have been getting blown out of proportions. I don't get the frustration with what's been going on either.
All things considered, this draft has gone really smoothly. You’re bound to hit these communication problems when you’re dealing with 12 different people with 12 different lives that are trying to coordinate a draft over the course of multiple weeks. Everyone’s been really relaxed and it’s been a lot of fun up until this point, so we’ll get beyond it.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
its just a difficult thing to balance as this is a fun thing for everyone, but we have to have some structure to make this work.
i think with any rule change (like the time limit), there needed to be some buffer time to make sure everyone was on board. some people are on this much more than others, because thats just the way it works. so logically, some people will hear this earlier. when we make rule changes, i think we need to gear them more toward making sure everyone knows and maybe sacrificing some efficiency, rather than the other way around.
Elijah Dukes
I agonized over this one. On the one hand, he managed 2.9 WAR last year with only 334 PA. Even with a dropoff from his .382 wOBA last year, as long as he has at least 500 PA, I think he easily passes 3 WAR, with a possibility of 4 or more if he plays the full season.
That’s why I agonized over him. Who knows whether his off-field struggles will strike again…
You dead dawg!
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I had him among few most valuable position players on a $/projected WAR ranking
although that assumes a full-season of play.
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 22, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
then again, the war I've drafted so far, that should probably worry you
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 22, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Hey...
I just found out about a funeral tomorrow that I have to go to. I’ll be gone from at least 12:30 EST for pretty much the whole afternoon. What should I do if my pick comes up?
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you can put together a list of who you want
email it to tucson royal. just find one of his comments and click on his name to get his email address.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
Options
You could email Tuscon Royal with your picks and he can post for you. Alternatively, if you want, I’d be willing to email or text you when your pick is up, you could reply (if you get a chance) with your pick.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 22, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I must have no life
I keep checking every 15 minutes to see if anyone else has drafted, but keep getting continuously disappointed.
I think the real issue is I just really don’t want to write this paper….bah work.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions
here's an idea i'd like to float
if you have the snakes (you pick 1 or 12 and have two picks) you should not get 2 hours to make each pick. You should have your regular 2 hrs. to make both picks.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
That's how the PB division does it
(although we’re still going by the 4-hour time limit)
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by Scott McKinney on Feb 23, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I don't have a problem with this
but then again, I’m not one of the two with snakes.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 23, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'd be fine with that as well
but again, I don’t have the snake myself. It’d help speed things along more, though.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
im not a fan of this, seeing as i dont see how its fair.
i never take intentionally longer just because i have more time.
but if everyone else wants it, i can deal with it.
Then again
if we make a decision to do this, I wouldn’t start doing this until EVERYONE (or at least someguy and devil_fingers) is aware and informed of the change. Hopefully someguy will make his picks shortly this morning, cause I’m itching to make my next few picks…
well, ok
kinda sucks for me today, since someone else is almost certainly going to have to make my snake picks from a list…
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 23, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, someguy has until 1 to make his picks
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
i also nominate that people who milk the clock until the last possible second
are banished to a desert island with only marty brennamen to keep them company.
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
We should have made the draft like a chess game. You have a limited time to use up waiting for all your picks.
Once you use it up, people can jump ahead of you immediately.
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by Sky Kalkman on Feb 23, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
ouch
that could really suck. everyone would have what, 50 hours? or it would have been 100 hours when we started? from 9a-9p even 7 days a week, that’s 4+ days that we could wait for a first round pick. sure you can skip that person every time after that but that could lead to some painful waiting during the draft.
Nah, you could have a per-pick limit, too.
But this way you can insta-skip people who consistently use up their 2 or 4-hour window.
It would be a pain to monitor, though.
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by Sky Kalkman on Feb 23, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Slow day in general
I thought things would pick up after the weekend, but apparently not. I’ll be going right at 5, though, assuming mlbnotebook doesn’t go before then. Hopefully we can get things moving again.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Biggest differences so far
Between Burrell and Ellis (subject to errors in transcription)
Pujols: 68 here, 27 there
Chipper: 75 here, 35 there
Adrian Gonzalez: 71 here, 37 there
Jose Reyes: 20 here, 4 there
Kinsler: 22 here, 9 there
+++++++++++
Utley 13 here, 63 there
Youk 35 here, 74 there
Adam Jones 49 here, 68 there
Doumit 64 here, 82 there (21 on ESPN)
pujols and reyes ftw
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Where is everyone, how many people have been skipped and who is on the clock now?
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
RJ was on the clock until 7
But he can be skipped at this point. Peterson is on the clock until 9, which I would imagine means that jhmoore could draft anytime tonight.
And I have no idea where everyone is. Basically everyone has been skipped today and has made up their picks later, although I don’t think someguy has made up his 2 snake picks yet.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
hm.
today sucked.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
Yeah, rather
We made almost no progress. Our momentum is really slowing down right now….
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't think I was on the clock today
I didn’t see your pick of Brandon Phillips on the blackberry, so I wasn’t even aware of being on the clock. Not that it would have mattered, I ended up picking late last night from a labor & delivery room as my wife went in 10 weeks early, but it’s under control at the moment. I’ll be off and on today and will try not to miss any more picks…sorry about that.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 24, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
do you think we should have a googledocs spreadsheet?
i think it would help everyone… i was thinking this:
cover page for the draft (12×25 matrix with labels and the suchs)
then each team have its own page with the roster and salaries. i’d set up a formula to show money left and stuff.
i think that would save everyone a lot of time. cuz ive been making like a draft board to see whos been taking, and im sure everyone else has been too. it would also make the draft more strategic, like you can see who has money left and what positions arent filled…
thoughts?
well i got it up... hopefully people will use it.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pdHDbLerMJZBGB83VMaJ1Xw&hl=en
if you guys on the discussion board can take a look, and see if people would be willing to do this, thatd be great. i think this could be nice.
as for requirements, we could make it so you had to update the big board, your pick and pick’s salary, and number of picks left. i have all the formulas set up so the salaries would take care of itself. so yea.
So all of us are able to edit this?
It sounds like a pretty awesome idea. It’ll help keep things from getting too confusing, for sure.
Yay spreadsheets! :-D
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
When we finish editing, does it automatically save or something?
I’m trying the “Save and Close” option, but I don’t want all my updates to be lost.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nm...figured it all out.
That’s really sweet…great idea!
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 24, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I'll use it
I’ve been using my own excel spreadsheet to do the same for my team. I will update my sheet tonight for you guys.
-Zach Sanders
MLB Notebook.com
Great
Thanks for doing this. I’m tracking everyone on my own spreadsheet, but am happy to add my picks as they’re made. I also added a couple formatting changes and fixed the players remaining cell.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 24, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
My mistake, page didn't refresh.
samt on until 1100.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 24, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
you are correct, sir
I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9
i figured after a sort of goofed on picking price
I had to go for it, even though I have other needs.
Snakes
Did we resolve the 2 hour snake time limit proposal that was on the table yesterday?
I think devil_fingers and someguy had reservations, but neither was adamantly against.
In any case, we shouldn’t enforce a 2 hour snake limit until we have a clear consensus and R.J. emails the league.
snakes on the table!!!
as far as i know i didn’t get an email from RJ so it’s not changed :) but i don’t really care either way.
new draft thread
i think the suggestion for making a new thread is a good one. the old one does take FOREVER to load.
Yeah, I agree
I propose that after we finish this round, we open a new thread for picks 11-20.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Can't we just announce it here, and start immediately
it might seriously inhibit my abiilty to (snake) draft in a timely manner, especially if I have to go to the old thread for my first pick, then the new one for my second. We aren’t especially close to me yet, but if it gets to be time, then I could end up on the train when that happens, and unable to do anything about it (unless I can BlackBerry email Jeff again).
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 25, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
email RJ
but I would not mind starting the new thread when my pick is up, that way you’d avoid any problems
I just created a new post for our picks
Feel free to start using it immediately.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
So it appears DF left for his train before making his picks
I’m assuming he sent his picks to TusconRoyals, but I guess we’ll see. I guess he has 4 hours to get before we can skip him (the rule hasn’t been changed offically yet, right?).
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions
Oops...scratch that then.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Comments are closed on the first draft thread.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
Beckett
What does everyone think? Obviously he’s always going to be a health risk but he was a 5-WAR player last year in 174 innings and he has the potential to be better than he was last year. I’m not sure if he was a good splurge at this point or not.
Well, I obviously have no clue
considering I panicked and drafted Mauer
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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 26, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
A good risk at this point
He might not have been a good risk early on, but at this point of the draft, you need to look for some upside.
by Adam Peterson on Feb 26, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'd say he's a good pick this late in the draft
It’s getting to the point where you have to figure out who to splurge on and take a bit of risk with. The 10 million hurts, but considering his upside and his value from last year, I think he’s a good pick.
Also, he may be an injury risk, but he’s still pitched more than 170 innings each of the last 4 years. Not too shabby.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 26, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Can someone explain again, in terms needed for a 5-year old,
how we are handling incentive bonuses for playing time/
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I don't think we're including them
as far as I understood. We have no way of guessing if they’ll make them or not.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 26, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well, scratch that, we could figure some algorithm out if we really wanted I'm sure
but I don’t think we have
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 26, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Correct.
The only thing worth thinking about is if some sort of incentive is guaranteed to be triggered. That would be a dumb way to write a contract, but something like that might exist.
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Three hours for the snakes? Two?
What say ye?
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 26, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions
I'm ok with 2 or 3
I’m with erik, not sure why the extra hour is needed in a draft this slow, but I’m ok with 3 as a compromise, since I’m not in the snake position (wish I was though).
by Adam Peterson on Feb 27, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
any rule change...
…I vote with the majority, all I ask is if someone could shoot me an e-mail if something is changed — todd@mastersball.com
Thanks
by Todd@mastersball on Feb 26, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions
new biggest pick differences
again, subject to my own transcription errors:
Andre Ethier: +68 (119 here, 51 there)
Jay Bruce +59 (116, 57)
Kelly Johnson +52 (102, 52)
Jody Gerut +46 (122, 76)
+++++
Alexei Ramirez -59 (58 here, 117 there)
Jimmy Rollins -56 (38, 94)
Chase Utley -50 (13, 63)
Ryan Theriot -41 (78, 119)
++++
the biggest + on the pitching side is only 25:
David Price +25 (74, 49)
Matt Garza +24 (72, 48)
++++
Justin Duchsherer -48 (62, 110)
Kevin Slowey -35 (48, 83)
Dan Haren -33 (55, 88)
++++
smallest differences (omitting guys picked in the top 12 or so):
Joba +2
Kershaw +3
Ubaldo -2
Papelbon -2
Uggla -1
Kouz -1
S Drew -2
Werth +2
Dukes +2
Not sure what to make of this but I thought someone might find it interesting.
Rules Question
Can a player play CI or MI if he has 20+ games at CI or MI but it’s a combination of less than 20 games (each) at 1B/3B or 2B/SS. FOr example, a player wouldn’t qualify at 3B or 1B if he had 14 games at 3B and 15 at 1B. But that wouold be 29 games at CI… could he play CI?
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I would imagine that a player that has 20+ games at 3B is capable of playing 1B and would be eligible, even if he played fewer than 20 games at 1B.
Same deal with a middle infielder that’s played 20 or more at SS but fewer than 20 at 2B.
But that’s just my way of seeing it.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 1, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
A player with 20+ games at 3B would be eligible at CI, but not at 1B. If that were the case, Sky would have set up the roster simply with three CI rather than a 1B, 3B and CI.
by Adam Peterson on Mar 1, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I've been going by the rules as written by Sky (along with the clarifications he's made subsequently)
And he listed the various positions individually, along with an eligibility rule. So if you played 140 games at 3B and 19 games at 1B, then you aren’t eligible for 1B.
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by Scott McKinney on Mar 1, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Most places I've seen
would require 20+ games at a position to qualify, and then once he qualifies at a position, he qualifies for CI or MI.
For the 1B/3B scenario you describe, I suppose it would depend on whether he qualifies at another position.
by Adam Peterson on Mar 1, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 2, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Right. Traditional fantasy baseball requires at least 20 games at either 3B or 1B to count as a CI.
15 each at 3B and 1B doesn’t cut it. We’re all about tradition here at BtB so we’ll stick with that assumption.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
So, 47 mil for:
Webb 6.5
Shields 1.5
Nolasco 2.4
Kershaw 0.4
Ceda 0.4
Howell 0.44
Wieters 0.4
Beltran 18.5
Branyan 1.4
Lopez 1.6
Hardy 4.65
W. Aybar 0.975
DeJesus 3.6
Gutierrez 0.44
Ludwick 3.7
Have you figured what kind of WAR you think you have for that $47M?
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by Scott McKinney on Mar 2, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Based on the last three years: 35
Throw in weights and it’s closer to 45.
That’s assuming 0 for WIeters.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 2, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
well this is fun - 43 mil for
C Suzuki 0.435
C
1B Cantu 3.5
2B K Johnson 2.825
SS Theriot 0.471
3B Scutaro 1.1
OF Sizemore 4.6
OF Markakis 3.25
OF Rios 6.4
OF J Upton 1.3
1B/3B
2B/SS
UTIL
SP Jimenez 0.75
SP Lee 6
SP Jurrjens 0.44
SP Maholm 3.5
SP Harden 7
SP
RP Saito 1.5
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Juuuust a bit outside!!
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good plan
Player Pos Sal
Navarro C 2.1
J Baker C 0.4
Loney 1B 0.4521
Kinsler 2B 3
Drew SS 1.5
Chipper 3B 11
MI
Berkman CI 14.5
Ellsbury OF 0.4466
C Young OF 1.95
Lincecum SP 0.4455
Joba SP 0.429
Liriano SP 0.451
Beckett SP 10.5
SP
SP
Marmol RP 0.473
B Wilson RP 0.43175
I have spent 48.07mil and some change. For that my math has me at 52.5 WAR. Curious if anyone else will share their WAR projections.
I like this idea
C-Chris Snyder
1B-Adrian Gonzalez
2B-Mark Ellis
3B-Evan Longoria
SS-Tulowitzki
OF-Granderson
Holliday
Ethier
Gerut 36.7 WAR
SP-
Hamels
Gallardo
Price
Verlander
Guthrie 17.4
RP-
Papelbon
Motte
Delcarmen 6.4
I’m using Sky’s spreadsheet and CHONE projections. I only have $9.25 remaining to spend
do i have to fill out my roster?
like do i have to have 25 players? or can i run out of money and run with 24
Have you fill 25 spots.
Just like an MLB team, you have to pay 25 guys at least the league minimum.
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Just shy of 50 mi for:
Cedeno 0.85 2B/SS
Montero 0.44 CA
Webb 6.5 SP
Shields 1.5 SP
Nolasco 2.4 SP
Kershaw 0.4 SP
Ceda 0.4 RP
Howell 0.44 RP
Wieters 0.4 CA
Beltran 18.5 OF
Branyan 1.4 1B
Lopez 1.6 2B
Hardy 4.65 SS
W. Aybar 0.975 3B
DeJesus 3.6 OF
Gutierrez 0.44 OF
Ludwick 3.7 OF
Baek 0.431 SP
Niemann 0.4 P
Mather 0.4 UTL
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