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BoaB: Mark Ellis Division Draft

This is the draft thread for the Mark Ellis Division draft.  RJ is in charge, although you can mutiny if he starts cheating too blatantly.  (No, RJ, you do NOT automatically get all the Rays' players.)  The randomly chosen draft order is below, and it will go in reverse order during even numbered rounds.  For discussion and trash talking please use the separate FanPost.  Rules are laid out here.

  1. devil_fingers
  2. erik
  3. jfranco77
  4. hazel
  5. samt
  6. jhmoore
  7. Adam Peterson
  8. R.J. Anderson
  9. slowjo
  10. mlbnotebook
  11. Todd Zola
  12. someguy132

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DF can make his pick at any time between now and Tuesday at 1 PM

But the “clock” won’t begin until Tuesday at 9 AM no matter what.

To steal this from TR, make your picks in this format:

Round X Pick X Name Team Position Salary
e.g.
Round 1 Pick 1 Jose Guillen Royals OF 12 million

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 15, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Honoring the Presidents

tomorrow huh? Way to be patriotic people!

-Zach Sanders
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by mlbnotebook on Feb 15, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, now I can totally put off preparation until Tuesday at 12:30 PM

my dad said if I kept procratinating like this I’d never amount to anything, but I a sure showed…

Um, excuse me while I go kill myself

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 16, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok... here goes

WITH MY FIRST PICK, I SELECT

B.J. UPTON, LAZY CENTER FIELDER FOR THE TAMPA BAY RAYS

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

my pick

Evan Longoria Tampa Bay Rays 3B 500 K

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by erik on Feb 17, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

here goes nothing

pick 1.03 Tim Lincecum, SP San Francisco Giants 0.4455mil

 0.4455mil is what I have for his salary (1.1*405k)

please let his arm stay attached

by jfranco77 on Feb 17, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Salary

ESPN had it listed at $460,750 in their battle of budgets. So who knows.

I assume you just took service time X last season?

-Zach Sanders
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by mlbnotebook on Feb 17, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I have no idea where they get their data

I am OK with using them if that’s the consensus, I just used his last year’s salary as listed on Cots times 1.1.

by jfranco77 on Feb 17, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

First Round, Pick four: Hanley Ramirez SS Florida Marlins 5.5M

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 17, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Round 1 Pick 5 Dustin Pedroia Red Sox 2B 1.75 million

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Feb 17, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

Round 1 Pick 6 Grady Sizemore Indains CF 4.6M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 17, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

good job

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by Jack Moore on Feb 17, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

great pick

you bastard

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

was hoping he's sneak

into the 2nd rd. back to the drawing board.

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by erik on Feb 17, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 1 Pick 9 David Wright Mets 3B $7.5 million

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 17, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Round 1, Pick 10 - Josh Hamilton

Josh Hamilton, Rangers, OF, 400k
I think it’s 400k. He made even less than that last year. Correct me if I’m wrong RJ.

-Zach Sanders
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by mlbnotebook on Feb 17, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Salary

Corrected. $436,513 k for 2009. Thanks to NYRoyal for reminding me

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 17, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

1.11 - Jon Lester

Last salary I could find is $.4215M for 2008, don’t know how to do it for 2009.

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 17, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

LOOKING FOR A CO-MANAGER

Anyone lurking that is interested in getting involved, please shoot me an e-mail. I am doing a bunch of traveling the next several Friday’s and Monday’s and could use some help making sure the draft doesn’t stall. Add a .com to the end of my handle to reach me.

Thanks.

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 17, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Round 1 Pick 12 Chad Billingsley Dodgers SP 456.5k // 0.4565 M

ill round up to 457k to give myself a handicap. hehe….

but i cant imagine it actually making a difference.

by someguy132 on Feb 17, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

2.02 Matt Kemp

Probably a mistake, but what the hey…

2008 $ was .406MIL so x 1.1 = $.4466MIL

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 18, 2009 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

Round 2, Pick 3 - Geovany Soto

Geovany Soto, C, Cubs
408*1.1 = $441,100
$.4411 mil

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 18, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

Damn, he was going to be my pick.

Okay, time for my backup option.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 18, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Between him and McCann

It was a tough choice for me, pay the extra $3M or not.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 18, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate

paying to much for catchers. In fantasy and in real life.

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 18, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

R2, P3: John Danks SP White Sox $440,000 (.4M*1.1)

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 18, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Oops, P4....my bad

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 18, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

we're moving pretty fast this am. nice.

I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
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by erik on Feb 18, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I like it...let's keep it going like this.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 18, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

yours is moving nice,

We have already had 1 four hour limit hit and within 45 minutes of hitting another

by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 18, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Round 2 Pick 7, Nick Markakis OF 3 mil

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by Jack Moore on Feb 18, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

argh...

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by Sam Page on Feb 18, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a heads up

in our draft we think it is 4.1 M with the signing bonus — might want to check

by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 18, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Votto

I have him at 429k (390k * 1.1)

Joey Votto 1b
1 year/$0.39M (2008)

    * 1 year/$0.39M (2008)
          o re-signed by Cincinnati 1/29/08
    * 1 year (2007), re-signed 2/07
    * 1 year (2006)
          o contract purchased 11/05
          o re-signed 2/06
    * drafted 2002 (2-44)
    * $0.6M signing bonus
    * ML service: 1.027

by jfranco77 on Feb 18, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 2 Pick 8, Jose Reyes SS 5.75 mil

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by Sam Page on Feb 18, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

2.9 Joey Votto 1B, I'm a work so I can't check salary.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 18, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Votto

Joey Votto 1b
1 year/$0.39M (2008)

    * 1 year/$0.39M (2008)
          o re-signed by Cincinnati 1/29/08
    * 1 year (2007), re-signed 2/07
    * 1 year (2006)
          o contract purchased 11/05
          o re-signed 2/06
    * drafted 2002 (2-44)
    * $0.6M signing bonus
    * ML service: 1.027

by jfranco77 on Feb 18, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

2.11 Curtis Granderson OF $3.5 mil

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by erik on Feb 18, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

I'm up twice now, right? Okay... see you guys in 8 hours...

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

hi-larious

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by erik on Feb 18, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If I come up again in the next few minutes I can pick,

otherwise I will be busy for at least a few hours.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 18, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

almost there...

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

wondering

if we are going to be gone for an extended period of time, and we wanna keep the ball rollin’, is there someone maybe we could email our preferences to? that might be nice. not sure who wouldn’t mind volunteering for something like that.

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by erik on Feb 18, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 2 Pick 12

Edinson Volquez… I estimated the salary at $431, 750

next pick in a couple of minutes…

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Round 3 Pick 1 (gulp)

Yunel Escobar, SS, Braves, Salary $442, 750

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Round 3 Pick 2 (gulp again)

Troy Tulowitzki, SS, Rockies $750,000

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by erik on Feb 18, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

big spender!

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

vivaeldirtbags

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by erik on Feb 18, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Good speed today

Impressed, lets get through round 3!

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 18, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

in for a penny, in for a pound, I guess...

3.03 Joba Chamberlain, SP NYY 429k (390k last year * 1.1)

by jfranco77 on Feb 18, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

3.4 Kelly Johnson 430k or whatever

bye!

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 18, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

.

According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, the Braves avoided arbitration with second baseman Kelly Johnson by signing him at $2.825MM for ’09.

by viktor06 on Feb 18, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

KJ

he settled after we started, so we officially use the midpoint of the 2 awards.

=AVERAGE

ironically, that’s the same number… 2.825 is the avg of those two

by jfranco77 on Feb 18, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

stupid copy/paste

that should read

=AVERAGE of 3.3, 2.35

by jfranco77 on Feb 18, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, all i had time for was a Cot's check between cases

Can I repick?

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 18, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If so, Carlos Quentin, OF, actually 430k

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 18, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

not to be a dick...

but i dont think you should be allowed a repick. unless im understanding what happened wrong…

you should have known he had his 3 years of service time. the arb cases and figures are on cots also…

but you were at work. so im willing to compromise. anyone else thoughts? cuz i think this needs to be resolved very soon. like before the next pick or two

by someguy132 on Feb 18, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, everyone should research WAR and $$$ before they pick

And once the pick is made, it’s made.

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 18, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no preference either way

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by Jack Moore on Feb 18, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Exception this time

since we didn’t make it crystal clear before we started. From this point on, we live with any mistakes…IMO.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 18, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, exception this time.

But from here on out, no repicks. Let’s go with Carlos Quetin as his pick and have the next person go.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 18, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like we're pretty split.

I’ll let the repick go so we can continue on, but please, please everyone be a bit more careful from here on out.

Also, would anyone object to shortening the time between picks down to ~2 hours?

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 18, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

I'll take Albert Pujols for 6MM, Trebek.

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by Sam Page on Feb 18, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm inclined to say "too bad"

We all have access to Cot’s. It’s most likely that errors will be made regarding arbitration, as with Kelly Johnson. If someone thinks Pujols is a good deal because he’s $6M, I don’t see it as being any different from someone thinking Nick Punto is a great deal because he’s a 7 WAR shortstop. IMO.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

No objection

to shortening to 2 hours, as long as we can make up our picks if we miss the window.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like we're definitely going to have people missing their slots if we shorten it.

But it’s the only way to get things done reasonably quickly. I’m really busy during the day with work and classes and such, but I’ll do the best I can. So no, I’m not opposed.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

none.

picking up the pace would be good.

as for fearing you’ll miss your pick, you can always put together a “cheat sheet”. If you’re not around, TucsonRoyal has agreed to take our picks via email. If you’re four picks away from your turn but won’t be around, just send him your top preferences.

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

So when will the shortened pick time begin?

It seems like samt isn’t around necessarily, so are we going to hold him to the 2 hr or 4 hr limit?

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I suggest we start it after samt's pick

Since the discussion started after he was on the clock. Basically, whoever is the next on the clock after we make it “official”.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought we were waiting for this situation to be resolved

R.J. didn’t email me. But I’ll pick.

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by Sam Page on Feb 19, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Roud 3 Pick 5 Chris Iannetta C Rockies 0.4356M

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by Sam Page on Feb 19, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken

jhmoore has less than a half hour to go, than Adam Peterson can go, right?

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

I'll defer to jhmoore and R.J.

I don’t know if jhmoore is aware of the proposed 2 hour time limit. I’m ready to pick (hopefully before noon ET), but I’ll hold off until jhmoore or R.J. confirm.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm here

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by Jack Moore on Feb 19, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

correcting my own poor grammar

then, not than.

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Round 3 Pick 6 Ubaldo Jimenez SP Rockies 0.75M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 19, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

So, I'm cool with whatever the decision is --

is Kelly Johnson back on the board, and who did hazel repick? Or is it JOhnson?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Johnson is back and Quentin is gone now, I think.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 19, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks, can we get confirmation, R. J.?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

what's johnson's official salary?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

KJ

officially 2.825mil… the midpoint of his and his team’s arb submissions

by jfranco77 on Feb 19, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

R3, P9: Andy Sonnanstine SP TB $435,400 (.3958*1.1)

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

AAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

!!!

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Mwaahaha...

I love Sonny…I just couldn’t resist.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

grr

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by Jack Moore on Feb 19, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay!

Griffey come home

by .Taylor on Feb 24, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm gonna be gone all day

and away from the computer. fortunately, i’m not up for another 12 picks. i did sent my list of preferences to Tucson Royal, he said he could enter them in yesterday, hopefully nothing has changed.

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

thx. jeff replies, he said he'll be on top of it

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent.

Now, let’s just hope the next 12 picks don’t take everyone you wanted away.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 19, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i gave him a list of 15

so, i think i’ll be covered. clearly, i have no life. at the current pace, i’ll probably be able to make my own pick tomorrow.

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly,

95% of us in the draft have no life. That’s why we are doing this!

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 19, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

By the rules Sky agreed to, unless specified on Cots, signing bonuses are divided equally among the guaranteed years of the contract. So it is only $6M + 0.25M = $6.25M.

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 19, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's the other way around

Cot’s notes when signing bonuses are spread over multiple years. We discussed elsewhere with Sky, I’ll let him clarify. I think Youk is a 7M player.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, my understanding was otherwise

I thought Sky said that Cots is usually pretty good about saying which years signing bonuses get assigned to or how they are divided, but if it isn’t clear, then the bonus is divided evenly among the years of the contract. And draft signing bonuses aren’t counted at all. But yeah I would like for Sky to clear this up. I could be way off.

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 19, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never seen it.

I have seen bonuses called out when paid out over multiple years. See Carlos Beltran, Jim Thome, among others. Never seen Cot’s specifically note a bonus paid in a single installment.

That said, it appears that both drafts have pretty much prorated all bonuses over the length of the contract. May be difficult to go back and change a bunch of salaries right now…

by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 3, Pick 12

Jered Weaver, $478, 500 (I think)

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

Not your turn

it is Someguys turn to select. You still have to wait to late in the fourth.

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 19, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Next pick in a coupleof minutes... just have to get the liquid courage

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

You may have had a bit too much since your next pick is pick 12, in round 4.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 19, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.... don't I have the next pick?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

No

Recent picks have gone:

slowjo
mlbnotebook
zola

The next picks would be

someguy
someguy
zola
mlbnotebook
slowjo

The draft is currently at the opposite end of the snake from you.

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 19, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

devil you're up

last in 1st, first in 2nd
last in 3rd, first in 4th

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 19, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

You're backwards.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 19, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, can I repick then?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

sorry

just assumed his 3.12 pick was legit

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 19, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

ok, how I'm doubly the idiot

was I supposed to pick there at all or not….

Geez… I’m sorry guys. I really did have my thing all planned out to keep things moving… I thought I was the snake guy again, and was going to pick one of (player x) or (player y) and then Weaver, I did weaver because I wanted to get it over with… if I “stuck” with him, that’s cool. I was trying to move things along for everyone, and now I f-cked it up.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, sorry all... can I repick or should we just move on

I can live with Spicoli if I have to

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't repick because it's not your turn.

You can pick when it gets back to you. You still have a whole round to go.

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by Jack Moore on Feb 19, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the pick isn't valid until your spot comes up.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 19, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd say so too

If he’s still around by the time it gets to you, he’s yours. But there are a bunch of picks inbetween at the moment.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

oh oh oh...

OK… I’m so confused… so every time I pick, I pick twice… I get it…

sorry everbody… I was so excited for nothing…

Maybe I should just wait for R. J.‘s email from now on so I don’t screw up again

my apologies.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

oh god the more I look the more I see where I got confused

(hanging head in shame)

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

Kyle wants to see you in his office.

Close the door behind you.

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 19, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Regain your honor:

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 19, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Someguy

missed his pick, but I suppose it’s ok because he’s got the snakes. Gets 4 hrs without having the opportunity to be skipped.

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 19, 2009 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Damn...luck bum

So he’s got until 7:11?

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

im here.

will be picking soon. however, i dont really like how this got sprung on me… i knew there was discussion of a 2 hour pick time, but i feel there should ahve been more or better notification.

by someguy132 on Feb 19, 2009 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

It was discussed a bit last night, and I woke up this morning and found it had become official. An email probably should’ve been sent.

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 19, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Zola emailed his pick before flying.

4.2 Jimmy Rollins SS 7.5MIL + 1 MIL (5MIL/5) for a total of 8.5MIL

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 19, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

R4, P3 - Scott Baker, .4648 mil

Scott Baker, SP, Twins
$.4648 million

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 19, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

R4, P4: Zack Grienke SP KC $3.75M

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

you die now

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

you, too

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering when someone would take him

I was tempted to take him, even though I already had a catcher…

by Adam Peterson on Feb 19, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

wondering if Balt. is actually going to play him

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost

took him two picks ago. I was so close, I even had his name typed in, but changed last minute.

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 19, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn you RJ...I was hoping he might stick around a bit longer

I very nearly took him with my pick as well. Very tough to tell where he should fall.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 4, Pick 7, Cliff Lee, SP Indians 5.75M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 19, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

er, 6M with the signing bonus?

not gonna change anything, just checking

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by Jack Moore on Feb 19, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 4 Pick 8 Jered Weaver SP .4785MM

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by Sam Page on Feb 19, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Round 4 Pick 9 Russell Martin C 3.9M

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by hazel on Feb 19, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Round 4 pick 10 Jacoby Ellsbury OF 0.4466mil

406k * 1.1 = 446,600

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it… Martin was my #2 choice, Ellsbury was my #1 choice.

by jfranco77 on Feb 19, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

ooh ooh i can make my own pick. one moment here...

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

Rd. 4 Pick 11

Cole Hamels SP $ 4.35M

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by erik on Feb 19, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

Okay...

now it’s your turn DF ;-)

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 19, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

LIke I said, Gordon, Ellsbury, and Weaver

By when tomorrow do I have to make it if I decide to call it a night?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

9am + 4=1pm

Space.

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So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 19, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

yes no checking out

or we’ll be done drafting in October

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by erik on Feb 20, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm still checking in

I’m obsessive and/or ridiculously optimistic like that.

by jfranco77 on Feb 20, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

i hear ya re: obsessive

i have a cheat sheet of 50 players i’m hopeful to draft. i don’t mind waiting a little, but you’ll never be waiting on me to pick.

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by erik on Feb 20, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

lol...yeah, same here

I tried justifying it to my gf last night, saying I wasn’t scarily obsessive about the draft but only rather obsessive. I don’t think it worked.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 4 Pick 12: Kevin Slowey

Ok guys, no laughing, I realized last night I didn’ t know what I was doing with my picks.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Round 5 Pick 1: Adam Jones (Orioles OF)

To add to the fun, I woke up this morning unable to lift my left arm above my head without excrutiating shoulder pain for some reason.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

that does sound fun

sorry to hear about your shoulder. nice picks.

Salaries for Slowey and Jones would be $434,500 and $429,000, I believe. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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by erik on Feb 20, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks

it’s “excruciating,” too

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yup

I have 429k for Jones and 0.4345 for Slowey

by jfranco77 on Feb 20, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Rd. 5 Pick 2

Yovani Gallardo SP Brewers $444,000

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by erik on Feb 20, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

nice

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by Sam Page on Feb 20, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

thx.

hopefully he can avoid reed johnson for a season

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by erik on Feb 20, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

The Team Health Reports at BPro

rate him as a green light.

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by Sam Page on Feb 20, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I have Hazel's picks when it gets to him

I am on deck on ours so not watching this one as much as I should.

by Jeff Zimmerman on Feb 20, 2009 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

5.03 Francisco Liriano, SP $451k

$410k last year, times 1.1 = 451,000

I double-checked at MLB.com and he’s eligible for arbitration after 2009.

Sorry for the delay, this was an agonizing pick.

by jfranco77 on Feb 20, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

Round 5 Pick 5 Ryan Zimmerman 3.325MM

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by Sam Page on Feb 20, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

Round 5 Pick 6 Jair Jurrjens .429M (.390*1.1)

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by Jack Moore on Feb 20, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

It was between him and Zim

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by Sam Page on Feb 20, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

curse you!!11

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by Sam Page on Feb 20, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry for the delay, guys.

I haven’t had access to a computer all day until about 5 minutes ago. My pick should be up in the next 10 minutes or so.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

R5, P9: Kevin Kouzmanoff 3B SD $451,000 (.41*1.1)

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

OK, how did you hack in and get my list

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

R5, P10: Alexei Ramirez, $950k

Alexei Ramirez, 2B, White Sox
$.95 mil

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 20, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

I have Ramirez at $1.1M + bonus

$0.5M over 4 years = 1.1 + 0.125 = 1.225M

I think you used his 2008 salary without the bonus

by Adam Peterson on Feb 20, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't zola travelling?

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by erik on Feb 20, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't RJ have his last pick?

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i think so

I think he has a little over 30 min and then it’s on to the next

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by erik on Feb 20, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...so technically it's someguy's pick right now.

I feel bad skipping Zola because his proxy isn’t here, but dems da breaks I guess.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to be out...

for the next 4 hours or so. I’ll have access to email (can’t post from the blackberry), but will not be able to post. R.J. (or anyone), please email me if my pick comes up and I’ll email you my pick. Email’s on my profile.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 20, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think someguy is on the clock for both his picks until 8:21.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

I'm going to be out and away from the computer the rest of the evening

I doubt my spot and deadline will come up before the 9 PM EST “end of day,” but if it does, if R. J. or Tusconroyal can email, I’ll try to do it by Blackberry email if I must.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 20, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

I'm going to be off the computer most of the rest of the night as well.

I’ll try to check in periodically, but at this point, it’s not looking like it’s getting back to me anyway.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait...shouldn't he have an extra 20 minutes tomorrow morning?

The clock stops at 9, right? Not to be anal, but I feel like that’s how that should work.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 20, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

O

That works for me. I may be a bit late with my pick then, but its all good.

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 20, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I dunno...I don't know what the official rule is on that.

I’d rather we had kept going because I feel like 20 minutes in the morning isn’t going to make a big difference, but I think that’s how it should go.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 21, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

if you have your pick

you don’t have to wait. you can pick now.

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Catching up...

5.11 Joakim Soria 1MIL
6.02 Justin Duchscherer 3.9MIL

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 21, 2009 2:24 AM EST reply actions  

Soria

was hoping he’s snake back around to me. Nice pick

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay...so mlb is on until 11, I believe.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 21, 2009 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

Are we enforcing the time limits on weekends?

I’d prefer the time limits to keep things moving, but I’d want R.J. or Sky to confirm before we skip too many people.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Mmm, good point.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 21, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

hm,

if he didn’t pass it off, would he miss his own pick in what is basically his own league? He’s been punctual with all of his other stuff, so perhaps he thought weekends paused the clock.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 21, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't find any discussion or clarification regarding weekends

Sky’s original rules noted a 4 hour limit (which we’ve reduced to two), but did not except weekends.

R.J. posted on the trash talk thread, but I can’t interpret his statement “this is going to end quite well”.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

6.4 Ryan Doumit C PIT $2.35M

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 21, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I could pick now

Over two hours after this pick, but I’ll give R.J. until 2 PM EST to post his pick or email me. Otherwise, I’m moving this forward.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Catching Up, 6.3

Hunter Pence, OF, Astros,
.396 * 1.1 = $.4356

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 21, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, sorry about skipping you when you said you were going to be late

I wanted to keep things moving along but it appears that things are stalling on the weekend anyway. If you’d like to switch or anything, let me know.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 21, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem

I doubted that anyone would pick Pence, and if they did, shit happens. You just followed rules, I have no problem with that.

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 21, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm ok with whatever

I’d prefer to at least have some time limit over the weekend, perhaps we move back up to 4 hours. I’d hate to waste an entire weekend.

The only reason I pushed the issue was because of the uncertainty and the fact that I would have to make the choice.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's fine.

If most people have access to email on their phones or whatever I think 4 hours on the weekends would work.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 21, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Email

Should you send an email to everyone now so that they know about the change and aren;t blindsided by it?

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by mlbnotebook on Feb 21, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

6.6 Dan Uggla 2B, $5.35M

He won his arbitration case on 2/12, so I’m going with the result of him winning his case.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

6.7 Alex Rios OF Blue Jays 5.9M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 21, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Can I get confirmation on Cliff Lee's, as well?

right now I have it as 5.75 + .25 (= 6.0), is that right?

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by Jack Moore on Feb 21, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of

am i missing any bonuses?

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

No idea

As anal as I am, I haven’t checked everybody’s salaries to see if they are right. I just know the salaries (for this fantasy league) of guys on my short list at the moment. Cots knows all. It’s easy to double check.

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 21, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

6.8 Albert Pujols 1B 16M

It’s a dirty job but someone’s got to do it.

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by Sam Page on Feb 21, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

=O

dun dun DUN

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by Jack Moore on Feb 21, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I was leaning that way

now on to plan B!

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

6.9 Josh Johnson SP 1.4M

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 21, 2009 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

6.10 Stephen Drew, SS 1.5mil

I think it’s 1.5mil… hard to say. I read this as his bonus being paid over 4 years, those 4 years being 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008. But if it’s 2.5mil I can live with that and I will still take him.

  1. 5 years/$5.5M (2005-09)

    * signed Major League contract with Arizona 5/05
    * $4M signing bonus paid over 4 years
    * 05-06: average annual salaries of $0.3M, 07:$1.5M, 08:$1.5M, 09:$1.5M
    * $2M in "easily attainable bonuses, for total possible value of $7.5M

  1. drafted 2004 (1-15) (Florida State)

by jfranco77 on Feb 21, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Draft bonus

This bonus was paid upon signing out of the draft. I don’t think we’re counting draft bonuses, so I would go with $1.5M.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 21, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

argh!

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by Jack Moore on Feb 21, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

6.11, Adrian Gonzalez, 1B $3M

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

thanks for the catch.

$3.125M

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, just to make sure, it's me now, right? Twice?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

yep, 2 picks

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Round 6 Pick 12: Matt Garza

next pick upcoming….

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

wargh!

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

this next one is killing me

I go back-and-forth on whether position scarcity matters

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It matters at some positions

You just have to figure out which ones…

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 21, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, are you a Space Ork or something?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

um...why do you ask?

(make your pick or I will destroy the galaxy) Ahem.

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

wargh?

I’m afraid to go over my crappy budget…

I’m waffling on strategy

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Lords Gork and Mork

command you go over your crappy budget. Wargh!

(ok, time to get out of the wikipedia entry for space orks)

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

40K?

Space.

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We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 21, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

indubitibly

40K budget or 40K Warhammer?

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw it (gulp)

Round 7, Pick 1: Joe Mauer

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

David Price SP $750,000

Well, wargh then

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Rd. 7, pick 2.

He is gonna be the Ray’s 5th starter, right? Right?!?!

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

well, crud then

Sorta wish I had that one back, but it’s not like I can’t live with it

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

pick up in a couple

just got home, sorry for the delay. mauer probably would have been my guy. doh!

by jfranco77 on Feb 21, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

7.4 Adam Wainwight, SP 2.6M + 175k signing bonus

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 21, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

he was who i was going to draft

instead, genius me opts for price.

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i think i was sniffing paint thinner

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by erik on Feb 21, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

you should try glue

It’s easier on the nostrils

vivaelbeñsheets

by vivaelpujols on Feb 22, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

umm..

Hate to be a dick, but I agreed to to a draft with a 4 hour time limit with no clock on weekends because I knew I could commit to that. I would not have agreed to participate with the present set-up, with rules changing on the fly. If anyone knows someone that wants to either pick up my team or cover for me over the weekend, please send them my way.

I’ll check in when I can, but my weekends from now until April are tied up, I will be without Internet access and the access I will have I need to focus on some other things.

Sorry

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 21, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

+1

rules cant keep being changed like this… without everyone (or at least most) agreeing on changes, and EVERYONE getting noticed and given proper time to prepare for such changes.

by someguy132 on Feb 21, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

things haven’t affected me directly, and I don’t really follow much besides what players are getting picked and when I’m supposed to pick, but we should at least give people adequate notice if we are changing things from how things started out. Yeah, we all wan tto get down ASAP, but some people have more access than others on the weekends, etc.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 21, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Did the original rules include no clock on the weekends?

I didn’t see that in the original rules. It just said the clock ran from 9-9. I don’t think it said M-F only. Perhaps this was a rule that was discussed and agreed upon later.

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by Scott McKinney on Feb 22, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't believe it was an original rule, or at least I wasn't aware of it.

As far as I knew, the only real rule was the clock ran from 9-9. I just assumed that meant everyday.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Though I do agree

that rule changes should be better managed in the future. The trick is if we want this draft to be finished anytime within the next millenium, how long are we going to dick around about rules and hold up the draft? At some point, you can’t get everyone’s input and just have to go forward with it. It’s a fine line.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, we've done this several times in this league now:

Don’t these tangents belong in the discussion thread?

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 22, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

At the risk of adding another post here...

I’ve posted a response in the discussion thread and hope others will move this discussion over there as well.

by Adam Peterson on Feb 22, 2009 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't you just email Jeff with your picks?

It worked fine for me, and I learned my lesson after that Kelly Johnson incident. It’s a fantasy baseball league so there’s no reason to be anything other than laid-back about it, I just don’t remember any opposition when the time limit changed, or when we started picking on the clock on weekends.

Space.

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So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 22, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

7.5 Manny Parra, SP 400K

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by Sam Page on Feb 21, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

For the record...

…not suggesting we go back to the originally agreed to 4 hour limit (it was conveyed to me when I agreed to participate there was no weekend clock). Just pointing out that some of us have have committed to something different than what is being done. In the laid back nature that we are supposed to be treating this (you know — like saying tough sh!t to someone who makes an honest mistake early in the draft and saying screw the 20 minutes someone should still have on the clock because it wouldn’t matter anyway), I’m okay with with this setup.

As for e-mailing my picks, I don’t have the time to even set up the lists. I could have sent a list Thursday to cover Friday and maybe monday, but I can’t send a list Thursday to cover Fri, Sat, Sun and Mon, sorry.

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 22, 2009 2:08 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not sure what you're talking about,

but obviously you’ve been insulted in addition to the rule changes.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 22, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

7.6 Ryan Theriot SS Cubs .471M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 22, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Then don't take this the wrong way,

but can you reply or talk to us over in the discussion thread?

Space.

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So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 22, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

gahhhh

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by Sam Page on Feb 22, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

7.9 Mike Aviles SS KC, $429,000

Need some cheap middle infielders…

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Oops..

…or do I?

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

You're in trouble now.

My next 10 picks are all going to be cheap middle infielders!

by Adam Peterson on Feb 22, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn!

Oh David Eckstein, how I will miss your scrappiness…

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 22, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

7.11 Chris Davis

not sure of his salary, major league minumum x 1.1?

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 23, 2009 2:16 AM EST reply actions  

I put it at the league minimum

I didn’t think that he qualified last year.

vivaelbeñsheets

by vivaelpujols on Feb 23, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe Zola can go again now if he wants.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

7.12 Jonathon Sanchez SP Giants $435k

i woke up kinda late… sorry boys. and maybe girl(s).

by someguy132 on Feb 23, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

i believe MLBnotebook can go if he wants

I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9

by erik on Feb 23, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, he's on until 5

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

8. 4 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN $4.75

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 23, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

Salary

I have Phillips at 4.75 + 0.75 / 4 = 4.9375 (check my math…)

by Adam Peterson on Feb 24, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

that looks right to me
  1. 4 years/$27M (2008-11), plus 2012 club option

    * re-signed by Cincinnati 2/15/08 (avoided arbitration, $4.2M-$2.7M)
    * $0.75M signing bonus
    * 08:$2.75M, 09:$4.75M, 10:$6.75M, 11:$11M, 12:$12M club option ($1M buyout)

by jfranco77 on Feb 24, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahh, okay

I wasn’t sure what to do with signing bonuses. I figured if it wasn’t specified that it was spread out, it was paid as a lump sum in the front. But that works and I think he’s the only guy on my team that that’d be an issue with, but I’ll double check.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 24, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

OK -- I'm here

thanks, TusconRoyals, for watching over my precious picks…, but I’m back now

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 23, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Ditto

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 23, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Kelly Shoppach at 8.02

sorry, in between flights, i will confirm salary later, but Shoppach is the pick.

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 23, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

8.06 Prince Fielder 7.0M

$6.5M + $1.0M signing bonus / 2 years

by Adam Peterson on Feb 24, 2009 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

8.07 Kurt Suzuki .435M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 24, 2009 2:05 AM EST reply actions  

surely i thought

kurt suzuki would still be available for another round or two.

well i was wrong.

I'll be the one overrating these Faberge' eggs, thank you very much!
Future Redbirds / PAH9

by erik on Feb 24, 2009 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

he would have lasted 8 more picks, tops

if i didn’t take him at 8.10 i definitely would have picked him at 9.03

by jfranco77 on Feb 24, 2009 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

ditto

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by Sam Page on Feb 24, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

8.8 Nelson Cruz, OF .408

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Feb 24, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

hazel

when does hazel time out? i don’t want to get skipped too!

by jfranco77 on Feb 24, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

he is timed out

that’s surprising. please, draft.

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by erik on Feb 24, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

This is infuriating.

8.9 Conor Jackson 3.05M

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 24, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

R 8 pick 12 Grant Balfour

any help on his salary? Is it around $0.55M?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 24, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

R 9 P 2 Jonathan Papelbon RP $6.25

I figure there are still some cheaper relievers available later, but not a ton. So, screw it.

by erik on Feb 24, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

9.03 Dioner Navarro, C, 2.1mil

He lost his arbitration case on 2/9, we started on 2/15

how about blah? does blah cover it? i might really regret this one.

by jfranco77 on Feb 24, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

9.4 Pablo Sandoval 400k or so

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 24, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

9.5 Dana Eveland SP .4345M

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Feb 24, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

9.6 Kelly Johnson 2B 2.825M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 24, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

Nice pick!

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 24, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

9.09 Cody Ross OF $2.25

What are we doing about performance bonuses? He’s got an extra 50K in performance bonuses attached to his contract, but Cot’s doesn’t say what they are.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 24, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

I think we're not including any performance, award or playing time incentives/bonuses

Because we don’t know if the player will actually get that bonus and we don’t want to come up with some kind of test for which bonuses are likely to be attained and which are not.

The immoderate moderator

by Scott McKinney on Feb 24, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

9.11 - Howie Kendrick 2.59MIL

Ouch, that hurts

previous 2 picks salary…

Davis .4MIL
Shoppach 1.95MIL

by Todd@mastersball on Feb 25, 2009 1:07 AM EST reply actions  

doh... I really wanted him

held off last minute in favor of Choo

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 25, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

9.12 Wandy Rodriguez Astros SP $2.6M

I. am. spending. way. too. much. time. on. this.

by someguy132 on Feb 25, 2009 5:59 AM EST reply actions  

Haha...I hear ya on that one.

Waaay too much time.

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

10.01 Nate Mclouth Pirates CF $3.275M

also, it seems devil_fingers left some of his draft targets on the googledocs spreadsheet

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pdHDbLerMJZBGB83VMaJ1Xw&hl=en$

by someguy132 on Feb 25, 2009 6:08 AM EST reply actions  

nice one!

i added a formula to calculate the # of picks left and pasted it into the sheets where people didn’t already have a number entered.

by jfranco77 on Feb 25, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

heh

I’m not doing anything near that sophisticated…

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 25, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

10.4: John Maine P NYM $2.6

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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

no no no no no no

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by Sam Page on Feb 25, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, having some trouble

any way we can get a new thread for this? I’m having trouble on a crappy connection today, and this is takingn way to long to load and refresh…

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 25, 2009 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

I'd be up for it

My computer is old and really slow…it’s just barely hanging in there. This page does take awhile for it to load so yeah, a new FanPost would be cool.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree

i have cable and it still takes a while to load all the comments.

by erik on Feb 25, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

No idea...we going going so strong too

As far as where we stand now, RJ was on until 11:49 and Adam is on for another 5 minutes…at 1:49 jhmoore can feel free to go.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

10.7 Paul Maholm, SP, 3.5M

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by Jack Moore on Feb 25, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

10.8 Jay Bruce OF Cin 0.4MM

King of the bling come to lay down the evidence//Not George Bush, L-Millz be da president

by Sam Page on Feb 25, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

10.9 Hong Chih-Kuo not sure on the salary

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 25, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

RP, dodgers

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Feb 25, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I just created a new fanpost for our picks

so feel free to start using that board instead.

"I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation." - Satchel Paige

by Steve Slowinski on Feb 25, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

I'm going to do my R10 P12 one on the new thread...

although if the 11th pick guy doesn’t go soon, I won’t get to on time, as I have to get on the train. Can I email my pick to someone?

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 25, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

becaues there's no mobile posting yet from my Blackberry

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 25, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

sure, email it to me

:)

or you could be no fun and email it to Jeff (TucsonRoyal)

by erik on Feb 25, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

10.10 Chris B Young OF 1.95 mil

1.75mil + (1mil bonus / 5 years) = 1.95mil

also posted in new thread

by jfranco77 on Feb 25, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

i almost picked him

but i had his salary at like 500k… when i double-checked i decided i would rather roll the dice on a cheaper CYoung

by jfranco77 on Feb 25, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

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