Seattle "JackZ" Another Customer, Allegedly Swaps Silva for Bradley
(Note: Aha, see what I did there with the title? Aren't I grand with the humor? Speaking of humor...)
Here's the relevant source regarding what I'm talking about.
I'm going to skip the charade of whipping out the TVC and giving you a nice introduction about Milton Bradley, Carlos Silva, and how Seattle GM Jack Zduriencik has turned around the situation with the Mariners. Instead, I'll say this.
This is a straight-up robbery. There's no reason for such a tragedy to happen. Silva was the largest remaining noose on the Seattle Mariners' collective necks, the sole remaining byproduct from the Dark Ages of Bill Bavasi. Bradley was a positive offensive player (.345 wOBA) in the corners last year. He was a 1 WAR player last year in one of his worst offensive seasons in recent times. Silva struck out 10 batters and walked 11 in 30 innings last season (he also hit three batters). Before that, he was average at best (4.64 FIP for Seattle in 2008, though coupled with a poor defense, it turned into a 6.46 ERA), and horrendous at worst (5.76 FIP in 2006 for Minnesota, when he allowed almost two HR/9).
Silva hasn't pitched well since arriving in Seattle, one of the better pitcher's parks in baseball. He's now moving to Chicago, a hitter's haven in comparison. Bradley is now moving to Seattle, to a fanbase that actually respects his offensive skillset. There is no rumored additional parts to this trade. It's a simple one-for-one, and I think it made everyone outside Seattle cringe a little. I know I did.
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I'll make the statement here that, if this trade doesn't happen, I await my punishment from head honcho Tommy Bennett.
That being said, it was too juicy not to talk about.
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I like that you thought your punishment would be for speculation
and not for the pun. You know me well.
by Tommy Bennett on Dec 18, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Puns are awesome.
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Performance-wise, Carlos Silva has next to no value.
Replacement level? Pretty much. (Maybe a chance for 1 WAR.)
So for what appears to be a difference of $6M, the Mariners “signed” Milton Bradley for two years. Wow.
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Difference of $14M, actually.
Still, $7M per year for Milton? Sure.
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Bad math
Bradley is owed $21M over the next two years, plus the $6mil the M’s threw to the Cubs. You’re paying Milton Bradley $27 over 2 years. $13.5M a season. I’m sure he’ll be worth every penny.
But Silva was essentially a sunk cost, so realistically, the Mariners just spent $6M to land Bradley for two years.
Silva wasn’t likely to contribute much in Seattle so they were dumping $24M on him anyways. Now, for $3M per year, they have the opportunity to get high-quality offensive production from that roster spot.
by Satchel Price on Dec 18, 2009 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What Satchel said, but with different numbers.
They were already going to pay Silva $24M to do (I’m assuming) nothing for them. Now they’re paying $9 for Silva to do (for sure) nothing for them plus $21M for Milton Bradley to DH for them. That’s only paying $6M to have Milton Bradley’s services for two years.
So, actually, Satchel’s match was right. And I was right the first time. And I was wrong the second time.
Now, Silva probably isn’t actually worthless, but it’s close.
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CHONE projects him at around 1 WAR, I think, in 100 innings.
Probably closer to 1.5 WAR if you’re using Fangraph’s baseline, I think closer to 3 WARP if you’re using BPro’s metrics.
And the Mets
hell Castillo might have actually done something for Chicago.
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by dcrockett17 on Dec 18, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, as a Cub fan, I would rather keep
Bradley around and hope that he turns it around than save $6M and give a roster (and rotation?) spot to Silva.
Silva could still be an alright fifth starter, but Bradley has the ability to post star-quality offensive numbers. It’s really too bad that the team so firmly committed to getting rid of Bradley, because now we’ve somehow gotten stuck with Silva for $16M over two years.
Back when Bradley signed, I said myself, “Hey, this deal has some monster upside, what’s the worst that could happen?”
I guess I know now..
by Satchel Price on Dec 18, 2009 2:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This isn't a highway robbery, it's a good move for both teams
The Mariners fork over a few extra million to get a decent player(with a high injury rate and friction issues galore) and the Cubs get a chance to break even on Bradley, which is more than they could have asked for this offseason.
The only thing that lowers Bradley's value
to ‘decent player’ is the injury rate. If he stays healthy and produces at the rates he’s shown in his career, people will eat whatever crap he spews, because he’s a plus player who you can plug in the middle of the lineup and get positive production.
Insane move for the M’s.
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