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Hardy for Gomez: A Defensive Win-Win

The hot stove just keeps a'burning, as news has come out that the Milwaukee Brewers have dealt shortstop J.J. Hardy to the Minnesota Twins for center fielder Carlos Gomez.

What does this trade mean for the teams involved? First off, it shows teams are very interested in defensive prowess in their players, as both Hardy and Gomez are well renowned for their gloves. But what about their overall value? The Trade Value Calculator has the (approximate) answer!

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The Players

From the Milwaukee Brewers, we have the embattled J.J. Hardy. Hardy went through a torturous season in which he saw his wOBA drop from a career best in 2007, to league average mark in 2008, down all the way to a horrendous .292 this season, all according to FanGraphs. Partly as a result of his poor offensive production, the Brewers demoted him in late August, sparking the controversial claims that Hardy was demoted in order to manipulate his service time and allow the Brewers (or another would-be suitor for Hardy's services) to gain an extra year of team control before sending him off to free agency.

At the time, I spoke about Hardy's struggles with BABIP, Hardy's power numbers also suffered a drop, a result of a significantly lowered home run rate. Still, as I mentioned back in the linked article, Hardy was hitting average marks in pretty much every category except BABIP, so one could suspect that a bounce back season is in order for Hardy.

Doing a simple Marcel projection on his offensive numbers, then regressing to the mean of .330 yields a projected wOBA of .328. For this quick estimate, using Hardy's career UZR/150 of 11 runs seems fair. Based on the playing time Hardy saw in 2007 and 2008, projecting 150 games on him does not seem to be a stretch. At that kind of playing time (630 PA), here's what the Calculator says we should expect.

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Hardy over the next two years, if we use the 40/60/80% market salary scale for an estimation of arbitration, could be expected to yield $10.5M in surplus value, not including any free agent compensation picks.

What about his counterpart in the deal? Carlos Gomez was once the prize of the Johan Santana trade from the Twins to the New York Mets, though most analysts say that neither the crown jewel or the entire bundle was worth Santana. Gomez began playing full time in center field last season for the Twin and was up and down. On the one hand, Gomez's defense was stellar. UZR measured Gomez at around 16 runs above average in 154 defensive games at the position, an absolutely stellar mark. This year, he continued the trend, posting around seven runs above average in 108 defensive games, splitting time with the plethora of Twins outfielders.

This would have all been well and good, if not for the other aspect that position players often have to do, the hitting. Gomez proved to be a terrible offensive player last year, posting a .294 wOBA according to FanGraphs. And he did no better in 349 PA this year, recording a .277 wOBA. Gomez walked less than the average player (career BB% 5.0%) and had no pop in his bat (career adjusted ISO .088). Furthermore, he's shown a tendency to strike out far more than a no-patience contact hitter ever should (career K% 21.9%)

For Gomez, I did a similar Marcels projection for his offense and on his UZR defense, regressing 100 defensive games to a mean of 0. For offense, I have Gomez projected at a .290 wOBA. After doing the projection/regression of his defense, Gomez comes out to a +10 runs / 150 defensive games. Giving Gomez the type of playing time he received in 2008 as a starter (approximately 4 PA per game, like a 7th hitter in the NL) and projecting him at 150 games and 600 PA, the calculator shows this.

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That value does drastically underestimate his defense from 2008, when he was a 2.3 WAR player according to FanGraphs.

Conclusion

Even at the reduced level of production that Gomez is projected at, the years of control give him a slight edge in terms of value over J.J. Hardy. The time Hardy spent in the minors this year is going to help Minnesota recuperate some of the value lost by sending a decent piece to the Brewers. Overall, I think both teams will end up happy with the players they have acquired. I am almost certain that the Brewers' and Twins' pitchers will approve.

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Why the 1.2 WAR for Gomez in 2010 and 1.7 in the other years?

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by berselius on Nov 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hardys expected salary

I like the 40/60/80 quite a bit but it just isn’t going to be close to accurate for Hardy this coming year. He made $4.65 last year and coming off a poor year for him there is no way he approaches a salary of $10 million this year. It will probably be ~$5 million imo.

Also I know the 40/60/80 model works well for players that have 3 years of arbitration but what about players that are Super 2s?

Also there is some talk about Gomez being a Super 2 and being arb eligible this offseason.

by Silencio on Nov 6, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was worried about that as well. It's likely that Hardy will make a lot more surplus value

Thanks for the heads up for Super 2 on Gomez. That may definitely be true and would definitely affect his value.

by SFiercex4 on Nov 6, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was a huge Gomez fan

but it’s nice to have Hardy aboard. Obviously I wish we could have traded Young instead since Gomez is so good defensively, but oh well.

I also need to change my avatar now. Sad day.

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by fetch9 on Nov 6, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It looks to me like your surplus value estimates are quite conservative for both of these players.

For Gomez, I think it would be more reasonable to project him to get closer to his 2008 value. Coming off his age-23 season, there should be some offensive growth in Gomez’s future. A more reasonable WAR path of 1.5, 1.8, 2.0, 2.1 would kick his surplus value up to $17.5M. Of course, if he did get Super-2 status that could knock his value right back down, so hopefully that isn’t the case.

For Hardy, as was noted above, your salary estimates seem way high. I think $6M and $9M are pretty generous for him, and that would nearly double his surplus value to the Twins to $20M.

It seems a pretty reasonable trade to me. I project Hardy to be slightly more valuable than Gomez, but Hardy has more downside and Gomez has more upside.

by RedRobot8 on Nov 6, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Points taken

I had to do this one due to my own time constraints, but for future ones I’ll probably try to guess at any players’ arbitration salary values rather than use the scale.

by SFiercex4 on Nov 6, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Caption

What’s he doing more of in the future, bunting or playing against the Astros?

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 6, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just that there's the AL/NL thing,

but our manager is Ken Macha, and the Twins are pretty well known for their advocacy of bunting. So I think the Astros thing is a better bet.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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