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Free Agent Friday: Second Base 2010

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These charts tells me the Royals are now in the Luis Rodriguez sweepstakes.

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Full data after the jump.

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Second basemen AGE TYPE CLUB OPTION WAR UZR/150 wOBA ISO PA
Felipe Lopez 30 B 4.6 7.6 0.356 0.118 680
Placido Polanco  34 A 3.1 11 0.321 0.112 676
Juan Uribe  31 2.9 16.4 0.351 0.206 432
Orlando Hudson  32 A 2.9 -3.7 0.342 0.134 631
Craig Counsell 39 2.8 18 0.336 0.124 459
Adam Kennedy  34 1.7 -11.4 0.337 0.121 587
Mark DeRosa 35 B 1.7 N/A 0.327 0.183 576
Jamey Carroll 36 1.5 7.4 0.317 0.063 358
Ronnie Belliard 35 B 1.3 6.6 0.339 0.174 287
Jerry Hairston Jr. 34 1 4.1 0.312 0.144 433
Nick Green 31 0.4 -29.7 0.290 0.130 309
Alex Cora 34 0 -9.3 0.288 0.059 308
Mark Loretta 38 -0.2 0.7 0.311 0.085 204
Luis Rodriguez  30 -0.5 -23.7 0.268 0.058 251

 

 

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1B | 2B | SS | 3B | LF | CF | RF | P

 

Data Source: FanGraphs.com

FA/Age Source: mlbtraderumors.com

RL & Lg. Avg wOBA Data: Jeff Zimmerman

 

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Thank you for noticing--and yep.

It shows which guys were full time starters (Hudson, Lopez, Polanco), which guys had significant backup roles (Kennedy, Belliard, Counsell), and which guys play multiple positions with below-replacement-level value and the Royals are currently targeting for acquisition (Rodriquez, Cora, etc).

It’s hard not to notice that Lopez has the most value. And he’s THIRTY.

by Justin Bopp on Nov 13, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, thanks for putting innings on the chart. Love that. Now it just needs projections (Sean Smith’s projections for hitters are out at Baseball Projection…..) rather than 2009 data and they’d be great!

by Mike Rogers on Nov 15, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a reason you are using 2009 numbers vice projected values.

For Lopez, Bill James has him at .330, which is problem more the case. The .360 was a career high. Sense he was a regular, he had two 4.6 WAR seasons and none of the other 3 broke 1.6 WAR.

Hitting .330 puts him near 2.6 WAR if he get 700 PA His average UZR at 2B is 0.5. So he should be near 3.1 WAR.

A career year batting and in the field has him over valued.

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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Nov 13, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good points, Jeff.

There is certainly some aspect of projection that these need to include. I think I should do something that resembles a career ‘arc’ for the ones that look like decent-to-good signings, but I think there is some value in using actual production rather than projected production. Probably just another chart that shows the past 3-4-5 years along with James’ number in front.

Also a factor is the observation that all of these FAs, and probably most of them, are all over 30. James has almost all of them* declinining next season and it was my impression that this decline would be somewhat assumed.

*feel free to check my data on that one.

by Justin Bopp on Nov 13, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In the past James's values are a little high.

I don’t think he regresses values very much, if at all.

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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Nov 13, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1 typefacenerd approved

1. I love you.
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylfaen_(typeface)
3. I like it because it gives charts a magazine look to them. If you go back and look at the Washington Nationals 100-loss/losses history chart, you can see a good example of the effect.

by Justin Bopp on Nov 13, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

Am I the only one who finds this “TargetView” thing wildly misleading and completely useless?

It’s not actually the case that 8 of the 10 free agents either routinely make plays on the shortstop side of second base, or can’t field a ball 5 feet to one side of them if their life depends on it. Craig Counsell’s range is not 100 times larger than Ronnie Belliard’s. If you want something that vaguely resembles reality, the inner circle should be like three times the current diameter and the outer rings maybe 1/6th as wide as they are right now.

If not, why not just post the UZR without the risible “graphic interpretation”?

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by PaulThomas on Nov 13, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UZR != Range

However, I agree that the current form of this visual isn’t the best way to look at same-positioned players. It’s confusing and, as noted by your post, easy to mistake the larger circles to mean greater range. I would love to hear feedback on how we can visualize the aspects of UZR (range, errors, etc) if you have them.

I think the best application of the visual is probably from a team perspective to show ‘holes’ in said team’s defense.

I do take exception to the idea that it is “wildly misleading” and “completely useless,” though, unless you’re just being hyperbolic. Confusing and little-added value? Maybe. Pushing mistruths with zero benefit at all? A little far.

If you just want to look at tables, there are plenty of existing outlets that do that.

by Justin Bopp on Nov 13, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He has a lot of interesting things to say

but the phrasing is frequently hyberbolic. I think it’s fair to say that “wildly misleading” and “completely useless” are more indicative of his emotions than they are objective descriptions of the visual presentation.
That said, I also didn’t find the graphic particularly intuitive, but I like your “team” idea. I’ll have to think about whether there are other ways it could be tweaked, but thanks for all of your effort in putting it together.

by el generico on Nov 16, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm frequently hyperbolic as well, so there's really no hard feelings.

I didn’t really take exception to it. He’s right. I will be trying to come up with a better way to visually represent this data, but will be sticking with the team view for now.

by Justin Bopp on Nov 18, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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