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One year deal believed to be in the $6-8 million range. So let's summarize:

Garland: turns down the Angels offer of arb which would've likely netted him an increase from last year's $12 million salary, has to settle for a one year deal worth maybe half that much (though there is likely an option). Results: FAIL

D'backs: Could have spent about the same amount of money on Randy Johnson, who was worth almost two more wins than Garland last year and a local favorite. Results: FAIL

Angels: Lose a pitcher with a FIP projected somewhere in the 4.4 area who they would have to overpay for and get a draft pick out of it. Results: SUCCESS

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but being closer to your girlfriend?

well, you just can’t put a price on that. if i had to pick a number, probably around -$2M. garland really took a bath on this one.

Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.

by larry on Jan 28, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

the angels didn't want him.

but garland’s agent should have been smart enough to stick them with jon.

Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.

by larry on Jan 28, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Except that, at the time, I don’t think people thought the market was going to be this awful for marginal players.

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by marcello on Jan 28, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

well, i thought garland was going to be this year's lohse and that was before free agency even began.

seems to me that the writing was on the wall for a guy like garland by early december. but obviously there is some debate over that.

Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.

by larry on Jan 28, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i also would note this
Given that, his decision to decline arbitration from the Angels was viewed as a surprise in the industry.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/NickPiecoro/44762

i wasn’t the only one.

Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.

by larry on Jan 28, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

True

Although this offseason sort of started with Lohse getting 4/41. Obviously, that was terrible at the time, but now it looks even worse. I don’t think the market was really clear until after the arbitration deadline passed, but that’s debatable.

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by marcello on Jan 28, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i said 1/$6M in october.

looks like i about nailed it. it doesn’t take a sabermatician to look at those peripherals and figure out you should stay away. there aren’t enough dumb front offices out there anymore.

Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.

by larry on Jan 28, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

there's only so much roster space in Philadelphia, LA, and KC

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 28, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

and houston. don't forget houston.

once they went a different direction, no one was going to give garland a multi-year deal.

Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.

by larry on Jan 28, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

ah yes

poor berkman

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by Matt Klaassen on Jan 29, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

houston never seemed a destination for garland

especially after the hampton signing, which occurred before garland had to elect arbitration.

it really has become quite amazing that you can pretty much count on one hand now the organizations that still make frequent big errors. really a sea change in the last few years.

Obama said he would have to instill "some flinty Chicago toughness" into Washingtonians.

by larry on Jan 29, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

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