Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Explaining Jeremy Lin's Early, Surprising Success

The Other Side is a Good Story Too

I read The Big Lead on a daily basis and I found this pretty laughable. First the list put they put forth was created by David Pinto, who does absolutely great work, but was focusing more on sabermetric connections than actual sabermetric front offices. I asked a scout (which is a sin for saber guys) to give me a list of teams he knew were saber. He responded with these teams: Arizona, Boston, Cleveland, Oakland, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Diego, Tampa Bay, Texas, and Toronto.

 

Star-divide

Putting that into perspective we have two division leaders and a wild card leader amongst the group along with St. Louis who are in the playoff race. We also have two last place teams in Pittsburgh and San Diego, and a handful of middle of the pack teams with Cleveland, Oakland, Texas, and Toronto.

Putting that together we have an average winning percentage of .501, I did the same with all of the traditionally ran teams -- which are apparently not having a down year -- and their combined winning percentage was .4998, or if you choose to round up .500.

Those silly saber teams are actually winning more often this season than their counterparts. As I've stated before the best ran organizations are the ones that mix quantitative analysis with scouting ability; look at Boston with Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer, and Ben Cherrington, or Tampa with Andrew Friedman, James Click, and R.J. Harrison (whom by the way have been in place since late 2005, to place the blame for prior seasons on them is laughable.)

That took about ten minutes to figure out, but let's remember this part of that post: "It'll be interesting to see if statistical baseball analysis doesn't really work what this crash will look like." If it doesn't really work out? You mean like how Cleveland traded their ace and is only three games below .500? Or how Tampa went from never winning more than 70 to being on the verge of 81 before September? Or how three sabermetric teams could potentially wind up in the top three of the American League East despite the Yankees financial advantages?

Most teams are saber as a way of being cost efficient. On average those 10 saber teams rank 18th in payroll, which seems to suggest they're at a disadvantage in at least one resource. Here are the team by team rankings:

Team Rank
Arizona 23
Boston 4
Cleveland 16
Oakland 28
Pittsburgh 17
San Diego 19
St. Louis 11
Tampa Bay 29
Texas 21
Toronto 12


Of course making jokes about how "their math is wrong" is cute and all, but what's the traditional equivalent for Seattle, Baltimore, or Washington? That's not to say I don't agree that their math is silly, at best, I mean last year Boston, Cleveland, Arizona, and San Diego (lost in the one game playoff) qualified for the playoffs.

When your population is only a handful of teams who are usually at a disadvantage in financial resources and you're still taking 50% of the playoff positions, I'd say your shit works.

Comment 0 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

We use numbers and stuff.
Community Guidelines
Why be a member?

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Small
Context Neutral Run and RBI projections
Small
Free Agent Compensation
Img_0001_small
Value of Various Plate Approaches
Strike_three2_small
Effect of Foul Area on Strikeouts: AL 1954-68: Erratum
Small
Baseball on a stick
Small
Player Evaluating Statistic
Baseball_small
Rays Outfield: Cheap but Extremely Productive
Small
A new xBABIP
Small
Jack Morris "pitching to the score"
Strike_three2_small
Foul Area and Differences in SO: AL vs NL

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Follow us on Facebook!

Follow us on Twitter!

SaberGraphics

MLB Daily Dish

Get the latest MLB Trade Rumors, Transactions, and News at MLB Daily Dish!


Managing Editor:

Jbopp-kc_small Justin Bopp

Columnists:

Adam_small adarowski

Dme_small Satchel Price

Closeup4_small J-Doug

Carlosicon_small Julian Levine

Billy_and_daddy_4th_of_july_small Bill Petti

Featuring:

Dayton_small Jeff Zimmerman

12475953_small Jacob Peterson

Picture-6_small Chris St. John

Btbpro_small Dave Gershman

229331_10150183361996591_674441590_6760167_6637860_n3_small Lewie Pollis

Img_3830_small David Fung