Should the Padres Trade Adrian Gonzalez?
The Padres are clearly in rebuilding mode, coming off of a 63-win season and with little hope of competing next year, even in a weak division. They have made their intention of trading Jake Peavy known, and even though talks have stalled, Peavy is still very likely to be dealt this offseason.
That begs the question: should they trade their other big ticket, Adrian Gonzalez?
The answer, of course, is that it depends on what they would receive in return. However, there are few players who would command more on the trade market than Gonzalez, and it may behoove the Padres to deal him now.
Everyone knows that Adrian Gonzalez is good, but few people understand just how good he is. He hit .279/.361/.510 this year with 36 homers, a slight improvement in his offensive production from last year (when he hit .282/.347/.502 with 30 homers). However, overall offense declined in 2008, leading Gonzalez to have an OPS+ of 138, as compared to 125 last year (and 127 in 2006). Gonzalez is a lefty who struggles against left-handed pitching, but is still decent: he has a career line of .248/.308/.427 against southpaws – he certainly doesn’t need to be platooned.
However, Gonzo has been hampered by playing half of his games in
Defensively, the numbers and the subjective ratings disagree. Gonzalez won a gold glove this year – not that that’s a reliable indicator of defensive prowess – but ranked below-average according to both UZR and John Dewan’s +/- numbers. The truth probably lies somewhere in between – while Gonzalez is not the defensive wizard of a Mark Teixeira or Albert Pujols, he’s certainly not an albatross like Ryan Howard.
The key to Gonzalez’s trade value is his team-friendly contract. Gonzo can’t be a free agent until the 2012 season, and is due a total of $13.25 million over the next three seasons – his age 27-29 seasons, arguably the most productive seasons of any hitter’s career. Gonzalez has also missed a total of seven games over the last three seasons, and played in all 162 games this year.
So what might he command on the trade market? Well, his contract would allow small-market clubs like the Indians, Twins, Rays and maybe even the Marlins to get involved in the bidding, rather than having it relegated to large-market teams (like the Johan Santana sweepstakes). Gonzalez is extremely low risk and offers a very high reward – he has patience and power, and will be entering his prime having already established a very high level of play. He may lose a little bit in a transfer to the more difficult American League, but his numbers can only go up upon leaving PETCO Park.
Justin rated Gonzo as 31 runs above replacement this year – a 3-win player. However, that includes a -4 rating for defense, which I think undersells Gonzalez’s defensive ability, as well as only a +47 offensive rating, which probably undersells his offense, thanks to PETCO Park.
If we assume that Gonzalez is going to be somewhere around 4-5 wins above replacement for each of the next thee years, we come up with a value of ~$22 million per season, or roughly $66 million over the next three years. And remember, Gonzalez will only be paid $13.25 million in that time.
Thus, it follows that teams would be willing to part with top-notch prospects in return for Gonzalez. They essentially can give up $53 million “worth” of players and still break even – and even this isn’t a fair comparison, because it doesn’t factor in A) the inherent risk associated with prospects, even top prospects, and B) the increased value that Gonzalez adds to a team on the cusp of success, and it’s most likely a team like this – rather than someone like the Pirates – is going to acquire him, should he be dealt.
It’s rarely in a team’s best interests to trade top-notch prospects for a “veteran” – especially for smaller market teams that rely on cost-controlled players to compete. However, in the case of Adrian Gonzalez, it would behoove many teams to give up a lot in return for Gonzalez, thanks to the unique combination of his low risk, his high amount of production, his age, and his contract status. Therefore, it’s likely that the Padres could get a significant haul in return for him. I’m talking a type of deal that would eclipse what the Rangers received for Mark Teixeira (Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus, Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison, and Beau Jones).
Adrian Gonzalez’s trade value could be immense, and the Padres are not going to compete this year (or probably next year). It makes sense for them to attempt to deal Gonzalez, and it makes sense for a whole host of other teams to part with a lot in return for him.
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for the same reason they shouldn't trade Peavy yet
they should keep A-Gon. Unless teams are tripping over each other to get him, there’s no point in shopping him. And in the off-chance things go right for them, they have a base to build upon to compete.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 22, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Peavy has one more season where he's earning significantly less than what he's worth.
After that, it’s like you’re paying him as a free agent signing. He’s a good pitcher, but definitely overrated by PETCO. If the Braves were actually offering Yunel Escobar and something else of decent value, the Padres should jump all over that.
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by Sky Kalkman on Dec 22, 2008 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, we just don't know.
Peavy isn’t helping matters by stripping the Padres of any leverage.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 22, 2008 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it Peavy or the ownership?
I’m not getting the feeling that Peavy is the one asking for a trade. It’s the ownership wanting to reduce payroll down to around $40M. Yes, Gonzalez has a much cheaper contract, but Peavy’s numbers are inflated by Petco while Gonzalez’ numbers are depressed by playing in Petco. As a result, they may get a better return for Peavy than for Gonzalez. If I’m San Diego, I trade Peavy and keep Gonzalez and the $53M of production above his contract…
by Adam Peterson on Dec 23, 2008 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I would do, too.
But you have to be prudent about when to trade Peavy. What the Bedard trade looked like at the time is what I would be shooting for, and you might be more liable to get that at the deadline. I feel like if the Padres are ever going to win in the next decade, it would be nice to have Gonzalez. Trade Blanks for pitching.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Bedard had a bit more trade value, especially if you ignore injury concerns.
He was in his last two years of arbitration, being paid significantly below what he was worth. Peavy’s only being paid less than his value for one season, and he’s making more than Bedard did in his first year with the M’s. Anything close to the Oriole’s haul would be fantastic.
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by Sky Kalkman on Dec 23, 2008 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ideally, a Peavy suitor would like to think he retains most of his value throughout his contract
as opposed to turning into Bedard. So he would be worth it, especially if you can afford him over that period of time. Remember, when the Bedard trade went down, it was seen as a bad thing that he was controlled for only two years.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And my point is that while Peavy is controlled for four years...
… three of those controlled years aren’t actually much of a positive because of cost. In terms of low-cost years, Bedard had more than Peavy does now.
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by Sky Kalkman on Dec 24, 2008 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
leads one to question
whether picking up Ben Sheets for one or two years is worth the risk more than sending talent for Peavy. I know what you’re saying, but ideally the pursuer of Peavy will negate or ignore the deficits from the get-go.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 24, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
53 Million.
To me that says he’s too expensive to acquire. The Texiera trade was for 1.5 years, this is for 3. Any package would need to include some fair ML ready talent (like Salty) and several 5 star prospects. I don’t see how anybody (except the Yanks) could put together a big enough package.
Holding on to a commodity this sweet doesn’t help the Padres in the long run. IMHO.
by David Howards Legacy on Dec 22, 2008 4:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That number means
That it’d be worthwhile to give up a tremendous amount of talent for him. That’s, in essence, the “value” you’re receiving (actually, it understates his value). If you give up $60-70 million “worth” of young players, you’ve still made a good deal.
I don’t expect that Gonzo would cost twice as much as Tex did in prospects – the Rangers got a huge haul for him, and Tex is better, even if Gonzo is signed for twice as long. It’s reasonable to ask for a comparable package – and it’s reasonable for teams to consider paying that price.
by Peter Bendix on Dec 22, 2008 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Angels truly are out
of the Teixeira derby — they probably have the young prospects to make this happen and it would seem to behoove them to do so.
by chuckb on Dec 22, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great point.
Wood + Adenhart is a good place to start…
by Peter Bendix on Dec 22, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would take more
Probably an existing starting pitcher like Jered Weaver or Ervin Santana in addition to Wood/Adenhart. With Wood, where does SD put him? Back to SS?
I’m not a huge Jered Weaver fan, but Weaver-Adenhart-Wood would make me think about it. Of course, it depends on whether the haul for Gonzalez is better than the haul for Peavy…
by Adam Peterson on Dec 23, 2008 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weaver in PETCO would be fantastic.
And he won’t be a FA until 2013.
by Peter Bendix on Dec 23, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Padres should start the arms race in the West...
Peavy to Angels
Gonzo to A’s
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by ChadGod on Dec 22, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Quibble
doesn’t AGon only play half of his 38 games a year against the Dbacks and the Rox on the road?
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by giveml on Dec 22, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
but otherwise great stuff/ I agree
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by Sam Page on Dec 23, 2008 12:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
According to the Fans' Scouting Report
AG has been above average the past 3 seasons, posting position-neutral scores of 64, 67 and 69 from 2006-2008 with a position-specific score of 73 (50 is average I think).
Also, MGL’s sUZR’s for Gonzalez (from here anyway) have Gonzalez as +3 per 150 for those years. Just throwing it out there
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by baetown415 on Dec 23, 2008 2:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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