2008 SS Defense by PMR
Team: PMR / RAA | 1B: PMR / RAA | 2B: PMR / RAA | 3B: PMR / RAA | SS: PMR / RAA | LF: PMR / RAA | CF: PMR / RAA | RF: PMR / RAA
Each season, David Pinto releases his Probablistic Measure of Range (PMR) ratings based on play-by-play data from Baseball Info Solutions. PMR measures how many plays above or below expected each team or player made based on batted ball characteristics like velocity and location. Here at Beyond the Box Score, we're translating the play numbers into runs (following a method developed by LA Black Hawk of Waterloo). More information can be found in this post.
Today, we look at shortstop fielding - first on the team level and then for individuals.

| Team | In Play | Actual Outs | Predicted Outs | Outs Delta | Runs Delta | Runs / 4000 | RAA / 4000 |
| Brewers | 4354 | 551 | 526 | 25 | 18.85075 | 17.32 | 17.65 |
| Giants | 4232 | 492 | 469.81 | 22.19 | 16.7319257 | 15.81 | 16.14 |
| Marlins | 4338 | 517 | 501 | 16 | 12.06448 | 11.12 | 11.45 |
| Angels | 4374 | 524 | 510.64 | 13.36 | 10.0738408 | 9.21 | 9.54 |
| Cardinals | 4597 | 580 | 566.37 | 13.63 | 10.2774289 | 8.94 | 9.27 |
| Red Sox | 4232 | 480 | 472.55 | 7.45 | 5.6175235 | 5.31 | 5.64 |
| Phillies | 4396 | 557 | 551.85 | 5.15 | 3.8832545 | 3.53 | 3.86 |
| Braves | 4383 | 566 | 561.4 | 4.6 | 3.468538 | 3.17 | 3.5 |
| Diamondbacks | 4224 | 469 | 465.74 | 3.26 | 2.4581378 | 2.33 | 2.66 |
| Cubs | 4156 | 498 | 495.33 | 2.67 | 2.0132601 | 1.94 | 2.27 |
| Astros | 4292 | 500 | 497.32 | 2.68 | 2.0208004 | 1.88 | 2.21 |
| Athletics | 4285 | 477 | 474.54 | 2.46 | 1.8549138 | 1.73 | 2.06 |
| Rangers | 4667 | 538 | 536.31 | 1.69 | 1.2743107 | 1.09 | 1.42 |
| Dodgers | 4265 | 546 | 544.65 | 1.35 | 1.0179405 | 0.95 | 1.28 |
| Indians | 4513 | 542 | 540.73 | 1.27 | 0.9576181 | 0.85 | 1.18 |
| White Sox | 4409 | 548 | 546.97 | 1.03 | 0.7766509 | 0.7 | 1.03 |
| Royals | 4413 | 508 | 507.3 | 0.7 | 0.527821 | 0.48 | 0.81 |
| Rays | 4264 | 490 | 490.56 | -0.56 | -0.4222568 | -0.4 | -0.07 |
| Orioles | 4540 | 537 | 539.06 | -2.06 | -1.5533018 | -1.37 | -1.04 |
| Rockies | 4535 | 587 | 589.61 | -2.61 | -1.9680183 | -1.74 | -1.41 |
| Pirates | 4683 | 577 | 580.37 | -3.37 | -2.5410811 | -2.17 | -1.84 |
| Blue Jays | 4215 | 476 | 479.71 | -3.71 | -2.7974513 | -2.65 | -2.32 |
| Twins | 4607 | 578 | 584.7 | -6.7 | -5.052001 | -4.39 | -4.06 |
| Yankees | 4349 | 491 | 499 | -8 | -6.03224 | -5.55 | -5.22 |
| Nationals | 4417 | 526 | 538.02 | -12.02 | -9.0634406 | -8.21 | -7.88 |
| Mariners | 4512 | 480 | 493.64 | -13.64 | -10.284969 | -9.12 | -8.79 |
| Padres | 4419 | 520 | 536.39 | -16.39 | -12.358552 | -11.19 | -10.86 |
| Reds | 4299 | 468 | 485.83 | -17.83 | -13.444355 | -12.51 | -12.18 |
| Tigers | 4536 | 519 | 544.4 | -25.4 | -19.152362 | -16.89 | -16.56 |
| Mets | 4335 | 498 | 524.64 | -26.64 | -20.087359 | -18.54 | -18.21 |
| Team | In Play | Actual Outs | Predicted Outs | Outs Delta | Runs Delta | Runs / 4000 | RAA / 4000 |
| Marco Scutaro | 1352 | 173 | 157.04 | 15.96 | 12.0343188 | 35.6 | 35.93 |
| Omar Vizquel | 1863 | 210 | 193.6 | 16.4 | 12.366092 | 26.55 | 26.88 |
| Mike Aviles | 2277 | 271 | 252.42 | 18.58 | 14.0098774 | 24.61 | 24.94 |
| Macier Izturis | 1307 | 151 | 144.8 | 6.2 | 4.674986 | 14.31 | 14.64 |
| Jed Lowrie | 1142 | 123 | 118.01 | 4.99 | 3.7626097 | 13.18 | 13.51 |
| J.J. Hardy | 3804 | 477 | 460.72 | 16.28 | 12.2756084 | 12.91 | 13.24 |
| Erick Aybar | 2437 | 305 | 295.72 | 9.28 | 6.9973984 | 11.49 | 11.82 |
| Alex Cora | 1137 | 140 | 135.75 | 4.25 | 3.2046275 | 11.27 | 11.6 |
| Cesar Izturis | 3136 | 408 | 396.19 | 11.81 | 8.9050943 | 11.36 | 11.69 |
| Jack Wilson | 2231 | 285 | 278.88 | 6.12 | 4.6146636 | 8.27 | 8.6 |
| Bobby Crosby | 3740 | 423 | 411.71 | 11.29 | 8.5129987 | 9.1 | 9.43 |
| Jason Bartlett | 3208 | 380 | 372.71 | 7.29 | 5.4968787 | 6.85 | 7.18 |
| Hanley Ramirez | 3986 | 472 | 462.98 | 9.02 | 6.8013506 | 6.83 | 7.16 |
| Juan Castro | 1331 | 153 | 150.32 | 2.68 | 2.0208004 | 6.07 | 6.4 |
| Jimmy Rollins | 3537 | 451 | 443.43 | 7.57 | 5.7080071 | 6.46 | 6.79 |
| Luis Rodriguez | 1191 | 143 | 140.93 | 2.07 | 1.5608421 | 5.24 | 5.57 |
| Yunel Escobar | 3344 | 440 | 434.04 | 5.96 | 4.4940188 | 5.38 | 5.71 |
| Nick Punto | 1646 | 227 | 224.05 | 2.95 | 2.2243885 | 5.41 | 5.74 |
| Orlando Cabrera | 4218 | 527 | 521.06 | 5.94 | 4.4789382 | 4.25 | 4.58 |
| Adam Everett | 1183 | 156 | 154.33 | 1.67 | 1.2592301 | 4.26 | 4.59 |
| Miguel Tejada | 4062 | 472 | 469.63 | 2.37 | 1.7870511 | 1.76 | 2.09 |
| Jhonny Peralta | 3963 | 469 | 467.52 | 1.48 | 1.1159644 | 1.13 | 1.46 |
| Michael Young | 4165 | 489 | 487.98 | 1.02 | 0.7691106 | 0.74 | 1.07 |
| Ryan Theriot | 3615 | 425 | 424.27 | 0.73 | 0.5504419 | 0.61 | 0.94 |
| Julio Lugo | 1947 | 216 | 217.95 | -1.95 | -1.4703585 | -3.02 | -2.69 |
| Angel Berroa | 1730 | 225 | 227.09 | -2.09 | -1.5759227 | -3.64 | -3.31 |
| Derek Jeter | 3815 | 429 | 433.24 | -4.24 | -3.1970872 | -3.35 | -3.02 |
| Stephen Drew | 3820 | 422 | 429.34 | -7.34 | -5.5345802 | -5.8 | -5.47 |
| Cristian Guzman | 3640 | 441 | 449.15 | -8.15 | -6.1453445 | -6.75 | -6.42 |
| John McDonald | 1387 | 150 | 154.82 | -4.82 | -3.6344246 | -10.48 | -10.15 |
| Yuniesky Betancourt | 4173 | 446 | 460.45 | -14.45 | -10.895734 | -10.44 | -10.11 |
| Troy Tulowitzki | 2730 | 354 | 365.56 | -11.56 | -8.7165868 | -12.77 | -12.44 |
| Edgar Renteria | 3696 | 428 | 449.4 | -21.4 | -16.136242 | -17.46 | -17.13 |
| Jose Reyes | 4196 | 480 | 504.15 | -24.15 | -18.209825 | -17.36 | -17.03 |
| Khalil Greene | 2841 | 327 | 345.54 | -18.54 | -13.979716 | -19.68 | -19.35 |
| Tony F Pena | 1808 | 199 | 211.52 | -12.52 | -9.4404556 | -20.89 | -20.56 |
| Brendan Harris | 1480 | 159 | 170.68 | -11.68 | -8.8070704 | -23.8 | -23.47 |
| Jeff Keppinger | 2636 | 274 | 296.5 | -22.5 | -16.965675 | -25.74 | -25.41 |
| David Eckstein | 1445 | 149 | 163.53 | -14.53 | -10.956056 | -30.33 | -30 |
The most surprising thing here was how poorly both the Mets and Jose Reyes rated. Jeter was below average but not badly so. Hanley Ramirez somehow showed up +7, which is shocking considering his reputation as a butcher. Other reports seem to indicate Ramirez was better this year, but still below average. Considering how well the Blue Jays rated as a team, it's somewhat surprising to see their SSs this low (-2.3).
Rollins, who won the NL Glove, had a good season, but J.J. Hardy was much more deserving. In the AL, the best you can about Michael Young was that he was above average, and that there weren't a whole of outstanding SS performances. Bobby Crosby and Jason Bartlett would have been better bets who had at least 3/4 of a season at the position, but they were only rated about 5 runs better than Young.
Last year's rookie phenom, Troy Tulowitzki struggled with injuries this season, and his PMR reflected it. He was 33 runs above average last year, and 12 below this season (some of that may be due to how the run value is calculated, LABHoW used 490 expected outs last year, and I'm using 4000 BIP). It will be very interesting to see whether he can regain his fielding prowess next season.
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So, Michael Young winning a Gold Glove is still funny.
by R.J. Anderson on
Nov 8, 2008 12:07 PM EST
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Interesting that the Jeter and Han-Ram improvements are confirmed here, as well
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Nov 8, 2008 12:09 PM EST
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I found it more interesting that Aviles rated third best.
by R.J. Anderson on
Nov 8, 2008 12:13 PM EST
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Yeah, over at RR we've been following that story
since he came up. The scouting reports all said he was a hack at SS… then after he had come up for a while, and the stats all said he was doing great, the scouts were suddenly saying “he’s no better than average to above average.” Funny how that works out.
It is a small sample size, especially for defense. We’ll see what he does next year. I posted about this on RR already.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Nov 8, 2008 1:09 PM EST
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Chone Smith apparently ran some minor league fielding numbers and Aviles was amongst the best defenders.
Along with Longoria and a few others.
by R.J. Anderson on
Nov 8, 2008 1:27 PM EST
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Really? I haven't seen that
That’s pretty cool. Is that incorporated into his 2009 projections, or is it somewhere else?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Nov 8, 2008 2:15 PM EST
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Awesome stuff, Dan. Great resource
Are the last two columns correct in the player table? For every player the numbers are extremely similar, regardless of how many chances each player actually had. For players well under 4000 chances, the Runs/4000 should be much more extreme than the RAA, right? Or am I misinterpreting those columns?
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by Sky Kalkman on
Nov 8, 2008 12:14 PM EST
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It's RAA / 4000 BIP
Average in PMR isn’t exactly 0, so I’m taking the Runs/4000 and subtracting the average.
by Dan Turkenkopf on
Nov 8, 2008 12:39 PM EST
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Still confused
For example, Maicer Izturis is listed at with a RAA of 14.64 in 1307 balls in play. Over 4000 balls in play, wouldn’t that be something like 14×14.64 = 42 runs?
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by Sky Kalkman on
Nov 8, 2008 3:32 PM EST
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I’ll change the column header – that column is runs above average for 4000 BIP.
For Izturis, if he’s 14.64 RAA/4000 then he’s really about 4.8 runs in his actual playing time.
by Dan Turkenkopf on
Nov 8, 2008 3:37 PM EST
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I got it now, thanks.
The “runs delta” column is the unadjusted-for-playing-time number.
How about a column on a per-4000 basis, but that includes some regression? I realize it would probably be extreme given only one season, and even more extreme for the guys with 1500 BIP, but it would also probably be more accurate than thinking Scutaro was +36 runs over a full season and Eckstein is -30. I guess instead of a value measure, it would be a one-season true-talent estimation.
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by Sky Kalkman on
Nov 9, 2008 9:17 AM EST
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MGL mentioned at his blog that he's running UZR with BIS data in addition to the usual STATS data
That should be REALLY interesting.
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by Sky Kalkman on
Nov 8, 2008 12:26 PM EST
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Is there any subscription service where one can obtain UZR for each year?
(I have the 2003- mid-2007 spreadsheet)… do we just have to wait for stuff to leak out at the Book BLog?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on
Nov 8, 2008 1:10 PM EST
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No.
I’m not exactly sure why MGL doesn’t release it all. Maybe something to do with commitments to teams he’s worked for and/or works with now…? He pays out of pocket for the play-by-play data, which isn’t cheap.
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by Sky Kalkman on
Nov 8, 2008 3:34 PM EST
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I guess Jed Lowrie can really play SS
At the beginning of the year, we all thought he couldn’t handle SS.
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on
Nov 8, 2008 3:30 PM EST
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Omar Vizquel..
Robbed of Gold Glove.
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by WalrusMan on
Nov 8, 2008 5:56 PM EST
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Not in 1/4 of a season
He was really good when he was out there, he just wasn’t out there enough.
by Dan Turkenkopf on
Nov 8, 2008 6:53 PM EST
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I don't know here, Dan.
He and Aviles might not have played a ton, but they still managed to save the most runs relative to average in their respective leagues at +12 and +14 runs. Given that replacement-level fielding is league-average fielding, can’t you assume that the rest of the playing time went to league-average fielders, meaning they were the most valuable fielders at their positions?
Any different argument would probably require a “true-talent” approach and some regression based on playing time. And I guess I’m not against that.
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by Sky Kalkman on
Nov 9, 2008 9:21 AM EST
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Good thing Reyes is signed for two more years
Otherwise, Omar would be looking to give him an extension.
by klhoughton on
Nov 8, 2008 11:12 PM EST
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to be fair
Defense fluctuates more than hitting, and one would be nuts to let Jose Reyes go, even if you don’t want him in SS.
by RollingWave on
Nov 9, 2008 8:52 PM EST
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