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FIP+: American League West

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Los Angeles of Anaheim Angels

NAME IP FIP+
Alex Serrano 1 364
Kevin Jepsen 8.3 145
Francisco Rodriguez 68.3 136
Jose Arredondo 61 134
Darren O'Day 43.3 130
Ervin Santana 219 126
Darren Oliver 72 121
Scot Shields 63.3 111
Jered Weaver 176.7 108
Shane Loux 16 100
Joe Saunders 198 96
Dustin Moseley 50.3 92
John Lackey 163.3 92
Jon Garland 196.7 89
Rich Thompson 2 82
Jason Bulger 16 80
Chris Bootcheck 16 79
Justin Speier 68 74
Nick Adenhart 12 74

If you hadn't heard, the Angels had a really good bullpen. Everyone knows about Francisco Rodriguez, everyone will know about Jose Arredondo, and everyone is going to be amused by Darren O'Day's throwing style, a bit side-armish. Darren Oliver and Scot Shields were extremely solid as well. Only two of the Angels starters were above average; Ervin Santana and Jered Weaver. Joe Saunders and John Lackey were just touches below average though. A quick way to find out which general manager should be fired: whoever gives Jon Garland a big contract. Justin Speier was abysmal, in part to an extraordinarily high homerun rate, look for that to regress.

Oakland Athletics

NAME IP FIP+
Joey Devine 45.7 234
Kiko Calero 4.7 212
Rich Harden 77 152
Jerry Blevins 37.7 137
Joshua Outman 25.7 132
Huston Street 70 131
Brad Ziegler 59.7 119
Kirk Saarloos 26.3 118
Justin Duchscherer 141.7 116
Chad Gaudin 62.7 108
Santiago Casilla 50.3 104
Dana Eveland 168 104
Joe Blanton 127 101
Alan Embree 61.7 98
Andrew Brown 35 95
Dallas Braden 71.7 94
Gregory Smith 190.3 89
Sean Gallagher 56.7 88
Lenny DiNardo 23 77
Jeffrey Gray 4.7 76
Keith Foulke 31 72
Dan Meyer 27.7 68
Gio Gonzalez 34 60
Fernando Hernandez 3 55

Generally speaking, it's never a good sign when only one of your pitchers tops 180 innings and only two actually log more than 150. Gregory Smith was a nice surprise, although it will be interesting to see how his poor K/BB rate plays moving forward, same with Dana Eveland. Joey Devine, Jerry Blevins, Brad Ziegler, and Santiago Casilla were extremely solid in relief. Alan Embree and Andrew Brown weren't awful either. Gio Gonzalez should be good one day, that day was not last season.

Seattle Mariners

NAME IP FIP+
Arthur Rhodes 22 179
Jamie Burke 1 135
Justin Thomas 4 117
Sean Green 79 116
Roy Corcoran 72.7 116
Cesar Jimenez 34.3 116
J.J. Putz 46.3 113
Felix Hernandez 200.7 112
Randy Messenger 12.7 100
Erik Bedard 81 97
Mark Lowe 63.7 95
Brandon Morrow 64.7 95
Ryan Rowland-Smith 118.3 93
Carlos Silva 153.3 91
Jarrod Washburn 153.7 90
R.A. Dickey 112.3 82
Ryan Feierabend 39.7 80
Cha Seung Baek 30 71
Miguel Batista 115 70
Jake Woods 19 59
Eric O'Flaherty 6.7 56
Jared Wells 5.3 41

Arthur Rhodes was shockingly good and sold high for a pretty decent young arm. Sean Green, Roy Corcoran, Cesar Jimenez, and J.J. Putz were the bright spots on the Mariner staff along with Felix Hernandez. Erik Bedard cannot be fairly assessed at this point, but Carlos Silva was pretty awful regardless of the defense behind him. I'm still unsure why the Minnesota Twins wanted Jarrod Washburn.

Texas Rangers

NAME IP FIP+
Brian Gordon 4 159
A.J. Murray 7.7 140
Frank Francisco 63.3 138
Franklyn German 21.7 124
Eddie Guardado 49.3 115
Kameron Loe 30.7 113
Jamey Wright 84.3 109
Sidney Ponson 55.7 109
Kevin Millwood 168.7 109
Wes Littleton 18 103
Warner A. Madrigal 36 95
Luis Mendoza 63.3 91
Dustin Nippert 71.7 89
Josh Rupe 89.3 87
Vicente Padilla 171 87
Kason Gabbard 56 85
Matt Harrison 83.7 85
Joaquin Benoit 45 84
Brandon McCarthy 22 83
Joselo Diaz 1 82
Scott Feldman 151.3 81
C.J. Wilson 46.3 81
Douglas Mathis 22.3 76
Eric Hurley 24.7 73
Robinson Tejeda 6 67
Tommy Hunter 11 60
Jason Jennings 27.3 55
Elizardo Ramirez 2.7 42
Kazuo Fukumori 4 39
Bill White 4 33

Frankly speaking, the Franks German and Francisco were solid for the Rangers. Kameron Loe has seemingly been around forever. Jamey Wright and Sidney Ponson weren't awful but Vincente Padilla and Jason Jennings were. There's a ton of room for improvement here, especially considering more than half of the pitchers were below average.

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Jamie Burke getting a swinging strike was one of the most awesome things about the Mariners' season.

You’re unlikely to find anyone who think JJ Putz had anything but a subpar year, and many people thought Felix was great. I know it’s not fair to directly compare closer and starters, but I still think it’s interesting that JJ looks better here.

Oh Felix, when will you stop teasing up all and make good on your immense talent?

Also, Roy Corcoran’s GB rates were absolutely ridiculous. They’re not sustainable in any way, but he still looks like a useful piece going forward. Bavasi quite obviously understood the concept of freely available talent as it relates to the bullpen; why he was seemingly unable to apply that knowledge to any other position I will never ever understand.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 27, 2008 3:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Putz looks better due to the innings.

In reality he was above average, but not to the level you would expect from relievers. For instance, last year he finished with a FIP+ over 160, and a handful of relievers this season had FIP+ over 200 (namely Mariano Rivera who one of the best seasons in his career).

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 27, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

'06 Putz was my favorite.

His ’07 looks better at first glance but it was largely propped up by a .199 BABIP. He was still great, but in ’06 he was unhittable.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 27, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Zeus,

I hope the A’s young starters’ misgivings were primarily a product of inexperience and not of true talent level. Most of the A’s starters have the stuff to get it done, but they walk way too many (Mr. Gallagher I’m looking at you). If they could some how exercise more control over their pitches, or get more swinging strikes, the A’s might be a legit contender next year (especially if they get a bonafide hitter or two, or get rid of BoCro). Unfortunately, at this point, it’s a wait and see game to find out who is real and who is not.

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Oct 27, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

i know it's a pain in the ass...

but i’d still like to see FIP+ (and ERA+) use two different league-average FIPs/ERAs for starters and relievers.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 27, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

it gets obnoxious splitting innings for guys who both started and relieved

if you can get that data, you’re home-free. replacement-level ERA is about 5.75 for starters and 4.75 for relievers. but the league-average numbers are much closer, something like 4.50 and 4.25, I think. that’s because starters are better pitchers as a whole than relievers. so i’m not sure what numbers you’d use, exactly. maybe keep the starters at their actual average ERA and make the relievers’ average ERA one run less? that 3.50 seems a bit much… 3.75? 4.00? yeah, a pain in the ass

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 27, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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