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A Question and Post

We all know the difference between counting stats and rate stats - one telling the running total and a broad view and the other a per game or per nine average. With that in mind I raised a question to a good friend of mine, Jason Collette of Roto Junkie - do any statistics sites of his knowledge carry innings per start? He confirmed what I had theorized from my collection of usual sites - none did, but he also added that he used batters faced per start rather than innings pitched. That made sense to me, after all 100 innings from C.C. Sabathia is a lot different than 100 innings from Jae Seo.

So in part to make myself feel important and also to answer the question of which pitchers average the most innings on average as well as the least batters faced I present the pitchers with at least 100 innings pitched as a starter in 2007.

And without running the risk of cluttering too much space, here are the rest of the pitchers for your own clicking:
A few observations:

  • Sabathia is a horse, and a mighty fine steed at that. I knew he was dominant, but man, the Indians need to lock that guy down now.
  • Halladay is seemingly the least efficient top tier pitcher - at least when it comes to batters faced per start (7.1 x 4.11), however he still gets the job done with over 7 innings per start - impressive. Haren is the overall least efficient pitcher - this time through BP/IP - at around 4.20.
  • This rate stat can seemingly help identify who has pitch count concerns. A high BF/G with a low BB/9 and midrange to low IP/S seems to be a recipe for such.
Thoughts, concerns, suggestions?

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If you put this in your original post, you'll have a scrollable view to your spreadsheet online. Drop me a line and I'll tell you how you can do this in the future.

by Jason Collette on Dec 21, 2007 10:22 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slugging
These two stats should give you a who's who of valuable pitchers.  Guys who are either nasty or eat innings, or both.  However, I think this analysis combined with their slugging against, or home run rates would be important.  A pitcher may face few batter but what if some of those few batters often hit the ball out of the park?

by willkoky on Dec 23, 2007 11:34 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point
I hadn't considered it, but certainly it would make sense to include it.

by RJ Anderson on Dec 24, 2007 1:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Innings per Start
You read my mind.  I was searching high and low for this the other week.  I thought I had seen in somewhere during the season, but I must have been mistaken.
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by Brandini on Dec 26, 2007 1:44 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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