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Maybe that should be a reality show, but it isn't. I want to compare the Athletics and Angels according to Net Runs Above Average and then compare their pitchers using PRAA and PRAR. Let's see how they stack up against each other to get a better feel for who could be the better team down the stretch.

Oakland has the better offensive/defensive combination by the sum of 40.16 Net Runs Above Average. That is a great deal of runs and makes me think the A's are capable of winning the division handily, and taking it soon. But we have not checked out the pitching situation yet. Something has to be making Anaheim win, and if it is not offense and defense, maybe their pitching is superior. Let's take a look at that.

Angels starters are three Pitching Runs Above Average (PRAA) better than the Athletics starters, but that can be explained away by the absence of Rich Harden in the rotation for a time. He easily would have added 3 more PRAA to his total in the starts he missed. They are also 5 Pitching Runs Above Average (PRAR) behind, but that is a small total (one that again is bigger if Harden's injury is taken into account.) An argument could be made they do not have the depth Oakland does in the rotation, but they make up for that with their bullpen. The Angels pen is one PRAA ahead of Oaklands (again, we have injury to blame. K-Rod was out and Scot Shields was the only dominant force in the pen. Huston Street was out as well for the A's, so this issue is cloudier than the rotation one). Their PRAR is huge though; 22, and it would be even more if they ignore Kevin Gregg (which they have been doing as of late from what I hear).

This is how the Angels have been winning. Their offense and defense is no match for the A's, their rotation is of a lower quality, but their bullpen trumps the A's pen. With their smallball tendencies the pen is even more important than it is for some teams, because they are supposed to keep the Angels in games while they scrape and claw back into it. Not exactly the best strategy for the playoffs though; when the Angels have to face teams like the A's who are better at everything except using their bullpen. There could be issues if the A's beat up on an Angels starter and the game is lost early on (think ALDS against Boston in 04'). If the Angels offense is not running on full cylinders like it did in the 2002 playoffs then they will not succeed in a 5 or 7 game series with a more complete team like Oakland. If Joe Kennedy and Jay Witasick can continue pitching well out of Denver then the Angels bullpen advantage is slimmer than it appears now, further lowering their chances of winning the division.

If you notice, there is only one big NRAA gun on Anaheim, and that is Vlad Guerrero. If he slumps for a significant period of time (only a .208/.264/.376 line in July) the Angels will suffer for it. The A's on the other hand have Crosby, Johnson, and Chavez (.379/.440/.699 in June and .272/.333/.495 in July) to maintain the offense (and if emergency struck, possibly Daric Barton for a short time). Depth is the key to the A's stretch drive, and as much as the Angels can survive through injuries I don't think their depth matches up with Oaklands.

One last thing; Oakland is a better team than the numbers show here, because many of these players are playing better since the end of May or so than their season total suggests. Jason Kendall and Eric Chavez are worth much more than their NRAA suggests at this point, which I believe could increase the A's advantage of NRAA to as much as 50 runs above average or more. It will be an interesting race down the stretch for the AL West with these two teams.

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I'm an A's fan
so I'd rather not be critical of your conclusions...but I was wondering if you factored playing time into your NRAA comparison?  It is ulikely that Payton, Kotsay, Swisher, and Kielty will play in the remaining 56 games - they are an outfield rotation of 4.

This type of consideration may make the result more meaningful, although is suspect that Oakland will still come out ahead.

by salb918 on Aug 3, 2005 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Playing time
Is factored into NRAA, because it is a Rate statistic. I used 10 hitters for each side, with the 4 man outfield/DH rotation for both teams to make sure it stayed even on a personel level. Even if Payton was to be taken out of the formula entirely, the A's have an amazingly sizeable lead in the NRAA category.
"I don't set the rosters, I just make fun of the guy who does" - Rob Neyer

by Marc Normandin on Aug 3, 2005 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Good work, then
I didn't even notice.  Thanks.

by salb918 on Aug 3, 2005 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

One other thing
In most models of offense that I have played with, the Angels seem to consistently score more runs than expected.  This could be a blip, or a matter of playing style.  It's hardly enough to overcome 40 net runs of differencec, but I don't think the difference will be 40 runs of NRAA in the end.  At the end of the season, let's check back and see how it played out...

by salb918 on Aug 3, 2005 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap
Next you're going to tell me that the Cubs won't overtake Houston for the wild card.

So much for this season. Who am I going to root for in october, whoever is playing the yankees!?!

by cephyn on Aug 3, 2005 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting assessment
I like stats as much as the next girl, but my problem with these numbers (and you do indicate this) is that they are aggregate. They can't take into account the struggles of the A's in May (they are a wholly different team now), and the fact that the Angels haven't been playing as well (and their bullpen has faltered some) recently.

I agree with you that the Angels have a solid pen, but I always wonder how it will hold up when it has to do most of the work. One strength the A's have is that their bullpen, although not as strong top to bottom (Street, Duke, Calero, and Witasick being the real cogs) has been able to stay fresh in the last two months because the rest of team has performed so well.

Look at the A's games in the last week (starting with the Cleveland series)

Mon: Cleveland W 13-4 ---Zito went seven strong, and only mop-up duty necessary for bullpen

Tue: Cleveland L 2-0 --- The A's lost, but Blanton was so strong that the bullpen was only required to go two innings (Witasick, Rincon, Calero)

Wed: Cleveland W 5-4 ---- In this extra inning game, Haren was not strong. But because the bullpen was well rested, the A's could count on strong innings from Kennedy and Street to get it done.

Thu: off

Fri--Sat: Two Oakland wins against Detroit in which the starters (Zito and Harden) were a bit shaky. Shaky for them still keeps their team in the game, and because the offense was strong (scoring 8 and 9 runs, respectively) the pitching was able to cruise using Duke (who hadn't been used since the previous weekend) and Witasick to close those games out. Street gets to rest.

Sun: A complete game win by Saarloos. Bullpen rests, ready for the four-game series (no day off) in Minny.

This week is illustrative because it includes stellar pitching (Zito on Monday, Blanton on Tuesday, Saarloos on Sunday), a complete game, shaky pitching performances. The off day helped, but I could have done this with the previous week (and including the four-game series in Arlington) and shown a bullpen that was in pretty good shape.

This may be more detail than you need, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless

by Alien @ Beyond the Box Score on Aug 3, 2005 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Very interesting actually
and thanks for taking the time to put it all in the comments. As long as the A's offense stays strong and the rotation stays healthy the pen should be much more rested than the Angels pen as you said. The Angels rely on their pen to win, whereas the A's rely on their pen to close out wins.
"I don't set the rosters, I just make fun of the guy who does" - Rob Neyer

by Marc Normandin on Aug 3, 2005 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kelvim Escobar
It will be like Return of the Jedi...

by HalosHeaven on Aug 4, 2005 3:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Escobar
Will help immensely, but the Angels problem is an offense that can be stymied much more easily than the Athletics offense. If the A's decide to pitch around Vlad, are you holding your breath for Steve Finley or Cabrera to have the game winner?
"I don't set the rosters, I just make fun of the guy who does" - Rob Neyer

by Marc Normandin on Aug 4, 2005 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually
one pitcher down the stretch does not mean all that much sometimes if you already have depth (the reason I did not want the Sox to go head over heels for Burnett). I have not had a chance to see the Ervin Santana show yet, so I'll trust your judgement that Escobar would be an upgrade and then some over him.
"I don't set the rosters, I just make fun of the guy who does" - Rob Neyer

by Marc Normandin on Aug 4, 2005 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

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